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By:
wondersobright
When: 05 Aug 19 14:12
matter of time lyon v mofo
By:
wondersobright
When: 05 Aug 19 14:12
mofo a bigger rabbit than bugs bunny
By:
ayt
When: 05 Aug 19 14:12
Bring back starc and hazlewood and i m backing ausi to sweap 5-0 London....
By:
VardonVoo.
When: 05 Aug 19 14:13
Anglo-Saxon guilt at play - Eng only won the World Cup by some flukey jamminess, so it feels undeserved.
By:
tomtimtum
When: 05 Aug 19 14:13
5-0 Aus must be around 25s, some forumites going to be very rich by the end of this series!!
By:
Whisperingdeath
When: 05 Aug 19 14:14
and yeah tbf I can

Really you didn't have a clue about the last dismissal.

Everyone is an expert in the comfort of their armchair. Yes the Umpires have got some decisions wrong but many of them were very close and could have been called either way. Just because they got the decision wrong after slow motion tv replays does not mean they were poor decisions. But yes these two Umpires are not good enough at the moment but it does not mean you can do better.
By:
johnnythebull
When: 05 Aug 19 14:14
were Oz trying to save the game do you think Eng would have them at 106-7?
By:
wondersobright
When: 05 Aug 19 14:15
you are talking out of your fkin arse WD
By:
wondersobright
When: 05 Aug 19 14:16
nobody in their right mind can say conclusively that ball hit bairstow's glove

it hit him on his wrist
may have brushed the top of the glove, may not have
umpire was guessing
and you are talking bollox, again
By:
jucel69
When: 05 Aug 19 14:16
Laugh
By:
tomtimtum
When: 05 Aug 19 14:17

Aug 5, 2019 -- 2:14PM, Whisperingdeath wrote:


and yeah tbf I canReally you didn't have a clue about the last dismissal.Everyone is an expert in the comfort of their armchair. Yes the Umpires have got some decisions wrong but many of them were very close and could have been called either way. Just because they got the decision wrong after slow motion tv replays does not mean they were poor decisions. But yes these two Umpires are not good enough at the moment but it does not mean you can do better.


You can tell pretty much straight away if a decision is poor or not, it's not whether replays show it to be out or not out, it's when you see the decision and just know the ump shouldnt be giving that.
With that bairstow decision there's no way you can say with 100% certainty that it was out, just give it not out and let the Aussies review if they want it.

By:
Whisperingdeath
When: 05 Aug 19 14:17
but you could tell it was definately not out and hit his arm or shoulder?
By:
wondersobright
When: 05 Aug 19 14:18
it was definitely not out because you couldn't conclusively say it was out

that's how cricket works

you need to educate yourself about the game before spouting crap on here
By:
sewter lives again
When: 05 Aug 19 14:18
probably johnny it looks a very difficult day 5 pitch to bat on

variable bounce and spinning
By:
jucel69
When: 05 Aug 19 14:18

Aug 5, 2019 -- 2:16PM, wondersobright wrote:


nobody in their right mind can say conclusively that ball hit bairstow's gloveit hit him on his wristmay have brushed the top of the glove, may not haveumpire was guessingand you are talking bollox, again


the glove for mine is the protective part, wrist bands etc shouldn't count

By:
detraveller
When: 05 Aug 19 14:19
nobody in their right mind can say conclusively that ball hit bairstow's glove

he was given out on the field.
The 3rd umpires job was not to decide whether it hit him but to show conclusive evidence that it DIDN't hit him.

Its another story that he did a poor job at that too, as I think he should have used hawkeye.
By:
johnnythebull
When: 05 Aug 19 14:19
the c*nt needs to pull his socks up not his gloves
By:
tomtimtum
When: 05 Aug 19 14:19
There's been plenty of decisions that the umps got wrong that you can forgive them for because they looked out.
The problem is there's been far too many decisions given that were just completely 100% wrong
By:
sewter lives again
When: 05 Aug 19 14:20
a pity England didnt have Archer and or Rashid to bowl at the tail on day 1
By:
wondersobright
When: 05 Aug 19 14:20
wasn't really referring to the 3rd ump det

they have certain protocol to follow

everybody knows where they stand with the "conclusive evidence to overturn" review process
By:
wondersobright
When: 05 Aug 19 14:21

Aug 5, 2019 -- 2:19PM, tomtimtum wrote:


There's been plenty of decisions that the umps got wrong that you can forgive them for because they looked out.The problem is there's been far too many decisions given that were just completely 100% wrong


its the latest in a series of gaffs

you could just tell that was another where he was guessing

By:
detraveller
When: 05 Aug 19 14:21
so by agreeing that nobody could say conclusively if it hit his armband or not, you are agreeing that the 3rd umpire was right in going with the on field decision?
By:
Whisperingdeath
When: 05 Aug 19 14:21
Tom,

All I am saying is that football fans who don't even know the rules of football have a go at the referees every Saturday. I think in cricket by and large we have pretty good umpires. Sometimes they make mistakes. They are only human. Hysterical berating of them is not good and quite often the ones shouting the loudest have little knowledge of cricket or Umpiring or the Laws of cricket. People like that would be better served watching Association Football!
By:
johnnythebull
When: 05 Aug 19 14:22
howe ever much he's guessing is in a different league to the Eng batters' guessing
By:
wondersobright
When: 05 Aug 19 14:23
det

1 of the bizarre nuances of cricket that in this case the 3rd ump was 100% correct to uphold the incorrect on field call
By:
sewter lives again
When: 05 Aug 19 14:23
i reckon the umpires have started to give things out knowing that a team has reviews left

not convinced Bairstow would have been given out pre reviews
By:
detraveller
When: 05 Aug 19 14:23

Aug 5, 2019 -- 2:23PM, wondersobright wrote:


det1 of the bizarre nuances of cricket that in this case the 3rd ump was 100% correct to uphold the incorrect on field call


How do you know it was incorrect on field call?

By:
tomtimtum
When: 05 Aug 19 14:24

Aug 5, 2019 -- 2:21PM, Whisperingdeath wrote:


Tom,All I am saying is that football fans who don't even know the rules of football have a go at the referees every Saturday. I think in cricket by and large we have pretty good umpires. Sometimes they make mistakes. They are only human. Hysterical berating of them is not good and quite often the ones shouting the loudest have little knowledge of cricket or Umpiring or the Laws of cricket. People like that would be better served watching Association Football!


The standard of umpiring is pretty good generally which is why these 2 have caused so much forum rage!!

By:
jucel69
When: 05 Aug 19 14:24
some real heated debate going on today on the forum!!
By:
wondersobright
When: 05 Aug 19 14:24
because you can't be sure its hit his glove
By:
detraveller
When: 05 Aug 19 14:25

Aug 5, 2019 -- 2:24PM, jucel69 wrote:


some real heated debate going on today on the forum!!


I think a lot of nonsense being thrown around.

By:
Whisperingdeath
When: 05 Aug 19 14:25
it was definitely not out because you couldn't conclusively say it was out

that's how cricket works

you need to educate yourself about the game before spouting crap on here


Come on Einstein. How does an Umpire give a decision when he couldn't conclusively say it was out. He gave him out conclusively! Out is Out! Concluded!
By:
wondersobright
When: 05 Aug 19 14:25
if its hit it, its brushed the top of the glove
equally may not have
bairstow reviewed suggesting it missed his glove
By:
VardonVoo.
When: 05 Aug 19 14:25
What gets me is the umps always seem to get it wrong in a way that favours the team already on top.
If their brief was "if in doubt, err on the side of creating a more competitive game" we would have much less to complain about.
By:
Whisperingdeath
When: 05 Aug 19 14:25
The standard of umpiring is pretty good generally which is why these 2 have caused so much forum rage!!


On that we agree!
By:
wondersobright
When: 05 Aug 19 14:27
nobody on here is regularly berating umpires or berating the general standard of umpiring
By:
Whisperingdeath
When: 05 Aug 19 14:27
bairstow reviewed suggesting it missed his glove


And still the third Umpire did not over turn it!

Now you are getting angry at the Umpire for giving the correct decision!
By:
detraveller
When: 05 Aug 19 14:28

Aug 5, 2019 -- 2:25PM, wondersobright wrote:


if its hit it, its brushed the top of the gloveequally may not havebairstow reviewed suggesting it missed his glove


Not trying to start a fight but you are confusing an on field umpires decision with the third umpires.

The on field umpire has a fraction of a second to make a decision. He decides on what he 'thinks' happened, because other than an earphone from the stump mic in his ear, he has nothing but his own senses to decide.

If he thinks it hit johnny's armband, he gives it out.

Replays show it was close enough that you admit no one could say what exactly happened.

Yet with that small margin you are saying the umpire made a wrong decision?

The only debatable thing is whether he should have given the benefit of doubt to the batsman.

By:
tomtimtum
When: 05 Aug 19 14:28

Aug 5, 2019 -- 2:27PM, Whisperingdeath wrote:


bairstow reviewed suggesting it missed his gloveAnd still the third Umpire did not over turn it!Now you are getting angry at the Umpire for giving the correct decision!


The reaction of the batsman is often a pretty good indicator on whether a decision is "good" or "bad".
If Jonny is reviewing it instantly and saying it didn't hit his glove, how can Wilson 22 yards away be saying with 100% certainty that it did?

By:
wondersobright
When: 05 Aug 19 14:28

Aug 5, 2019 -- 2:27PM, Whisperingdeath wrote:


bairstow reviewed suggesting it missed his gloveAnd still the third Umpire did not over turn it!Now you are getting angry at the Umpire for giving the correct decision!


betfair numpties don't make me angry Wink

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