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10 Dec 18 23:25
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Why draw so big if its a drop in wicket?

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By:
Fatslogger
When: 10 Dec 18 23:35
Yeah, seems a bit odd. Not as if the first test ended on day 3 either. I was quite pleased to get some 7s and it’s now 7.4-7.6 so adding more. Won’t take much sensible early batting to see something quite palatable for a lay off, although neither side did much sensible first innings batting this game.
By:
Cardinal Scott
When: 11 Dec 18 00:09
Saffers skittled Aus here a few weeks though & Eng were also bowled out here for a mediocre total.
By:
Fatslogger
When: 11 Dec 18 12:34
England bowled out for a mediocre total shock!
By:
Cardinal Scott
When: 11 Dec 18 15:26
I have just got on the draw at 7.6
By:
Whisperingdeath
When: 11 Dec 18 17:17
I read in cricinfo it was going to be a fast and bouncy wicket. Day 5 morning finish expected or earlier if people keep throwing their wickets away, India continue to bowl well and Aus bowlers particularly Starc come to the party.
By:
detraveller
When: 11 Dec 18 21:50
The draw still looks too big to me and i've bought both at 7.4 and 7.8
By:
Garden Of Gulab
When: 12 Dec 18 14:31
I'm sure I saw storms forecast for day 3 pm, might have been on BBC weather
By:
detraveller
When: 12 Dec 18 15:09
Draw out to 8.4 now
By:
Cardinal Scott
When: 12 Dec 18 15:49
Put £50 on draw at 7.6 and now trying for another £50 at 8.4
By:
peckerdunne
When: 12 Dec 18 16:11
India all day long

Doubling up

Due to win toss again possibly allowing for top up otherwise
By:
Injera
When: 12 Dec 18 17:24
India last one at Perth in 2008. Only SA have won here since (twice). We all know about SA's pace attack over the last decade.

The Oz batting lineup looks as poor as it's been for ages but the bowling is formidable.

If Oz lose this, they are in the Slough of Despond. 0-2 down at home?? A loss at Fortress Perth?? Personally I think they will bounce back.
By:
Cardinal Scott
When: 12 Dec 18 17:42
It's not the WACA though so historical stats are worthless here.
By:
Whisperingdeath
When: 12 Dec 18 20:39
It is not the WACA true and it is an enclosed Stadium so the Doctor might not be as effective but the Groundsman said it did swing here recently. It is also viewed as a bowl first wicket with any juice likely to be day one only. May get flatter and harder day 2.

I think it is a wait and see at least that is what I shall be doing. Starc was awful in Adelaide and despite the plaudits I don't think Lyon bowled that well at the start of the second innings eventually gifting India the win by 31 odd runs.

You have to fancy India here. 4 left handers in the top 6 and all calls to play a 4th seamer, well ashley, no calls to play a 4th seamer!
By:
Cardinal Scott
When: 12 Dec 18 21:32
Groundsman's thoughts on wicket

https://www.perthnow.com.au/sport/cricket/optus-stadium-curator-tips-fiery-wicket-for-second-test-between-australia-and-india-ng-b881044163z?utm_campaign=share-icons&utm_source=twitter&utm_medium=social&tid=1544536857306
By:
peckerdunne
When: 12 Dec 18 21:53
Pitch conditions set for no draw but toss could again be very cucial.

So I'll keep the 2.4s
By:
Bunsen79
When: 13 Dec 18 01:24
I've laid the draw at 7.6. By all accounts it's gonna be fast, bouncy and the groundsmen has said he's leaving a lot of grass on it. Again, we have the 2 great bowling attacks with average batting. The shield match that was played here recently was low scoring. The spinners will still be in play with the extra bounce. It will be interesting to see if the Freemantle Doctor breeze plays a part like it has at the WACA in the past. Selection is so vital in the make up of a successful test team. England seem to be getting it right, although that might be just luck and not Ed Cowan. With Cummins fit again and bowling well, I think Australia should select him for this match. I also can't believe Stonis isn't in the team. Good luck everyone!
By:
detraveller
When: 13 Dec 18 08:27
Bünden, this game is not at the WACA. I think it's the new Perth stadium.

Aus have shortened to 2 on Ashwin and rohit news which means I have a 100 red on all results. Not a good start.
By:
Bunsen79
When: 13 Dec 18 08:36
I meant to say they should select James Pattinson. Yeah I know it's the new Perth stadium.
By:
detraveller
When: 13 Dec 18 09:34
Aus 1.92 now. Looks like I have quite a mess to clean up.
By:
peckerdunne
When: 13 Dec 18 12:33
Glory glory
By:
Fatslogger
When: 13 Dec 18 15:25

Dec 13, 2018 -- 8:27AM, detraveller wrote:


Bünden, this game is not at the WACA. I think it's the new Perth stadium.Aus have shortened to 2 on Ashwin and rohit news which means I have a 100 red on all results. Not a good start.


I’m £4k in on the draw averaging 8.2. Not looking pretty right now but could turn out well.

By:
Cardinal Scott
When: 13 Dec 18 15:50

Dec 13, 2018 -- 3:25PM, Fatslogger wrote:


Dec 13, 2018 --  8:27AM, detraveller wrote:Bünden, this game is not at the WACA. I think it's the new Perth stadium.Aus have shortened to 2 on Ashwin and rohit news which means I have a 100 red on all results. Not a good start.I’m £4k in on the draw averaging 8.2. Not looking pretty right now but could turn out well.


I'm envious, my average is 8.16

Can't believe that draw price.

By:
Cardinal Scott
When: 13 Dec 18 16:23
Look at all the grass on that

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DuRTZhNU0AAZ6uH.jpg:large
By:
Cardinal Scott
When: 13 Dec 18 16:25
If the wicket looks like that you don't want to be batting 1st

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DuRTZhNU0AAZ6uH.jpg:large
By:
Cardinal Scott
When: 13 Dec 18 16:27
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DuS1pemUcAIACEB.jpg:large

F*ck me I now detest that I'm on the draw, loads of thick looking grass
By:
Cardinal Scott
When: 13 Dec 18 16:29
Scorecard from a recent game

https://live.cricket.com.au/match/2194/43770/western-warriors-vs-nsw-blues-jlt-sheffield-shield-2018-19/scorecard

Now I know why draw has reached levels it has.
By:
Injera
When: 13 Dec 18 16:39
Rare to see a draw price so big pre match. It happens when Bangles play one of the big boys away but Oz v India??
By:
peckerdunne
When: 13 Dec 18 16:59
Taking a little draw on board now 9.6 for trading purposes.

Top up India 2.6s also.

Not sure what I think of the options available to India now.

Ashwin is a loss but perhaps less so on here

Either way Australians need to show up
By:
Charlie
When: 13 Dec 18 17:00
A lay of Aussies at 1.94 seems a reasonable place to start. Also going for a small back of the draw if I can get 9.8.
By:
Injera
When: 13 Dec 18 17:18
I've backed the draw also. Rude not to. 5s would be nice tomorrow lunch time.
By:
Cardinal Scott
When: 13 Dec 18 17:19

Dec 13, 2018 -- 5:00PM, Charlie wrote:


A lay of Aussies at 1.94 seems a reasonable place to start. Also going for a small back of the draw if I can get 9.8.


You can manage coz I have just got 10s

By:
detraveller
When: 13 Dec 18 17:47
160 all red as if now with 1.2k deep on aus.
By:
Injera
When: 13 Dec 18 17:48
Green pitch. Bouncy. Balls not hitting the stumps? Fewer bowleds and LBs.

Kookaburra ball has a seam that turns to mush very quickly.

Just my thoughts...draw will probably hit 20s by lunch!!
By:
detraveller
When: 13 Dec 18 17:59
Just had more of the draw at 10. In my short betting career, ive only once seen a 10+ price on the draw in an Aus v WI game.
By:
Cardinal Scott
When: 13 Dec 18 18:13
30 for 0 and draw might be below 6 ...........dare not contemplate what 25 for 3 would have it.
By:
Charlie
When: 13 Dec 18 18:21
I don't keep records but 10s for a draw before play with two major teams must be a first?
By:
Cardinal Scott
When: 13 Dec 18 18:26
Up to 11s being matched now.
By:
Charlie
When: 13 Dec 18 18:49
Market is either very good or very stupid. Time will tell but at 11s being stupid comes cheap.
By:
DAN1974
When: 13 Dec 18 19:10
ive never seen the draw this high, i went in yesterday at 8.4 thinking it wont go any higher, going in again now.Scared
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