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By:
Cardinal Scott
When: 03 Jun 18 14:16
Hopped on Durham in RLC

Meanwhile hoping for a Daddy Partnership here.
By:
Cardinal Scott
When: 03 Jun 18 14:18
At about evens on Durham, plenty of leeway  Excited

The air is going out of Englands balloon here.
By:
Cardinal Scott
When: 03 Jun 18 14:34
PlainSad
By:
wondersobright
When: 03 Jun 18 14:34
cmon bessy
By:
wondersobright
When: 03 Jun 18 14:35
looks stone dead
By:
wondersobright
When: 03 Jun 18 14:35
oot
By:
Cardinal Scott
When: 03 Jun 18 14:39
Wheels have come off Durham at the same time as that wicket.  Double Misery!
By:
Whisperingdeath
When: 03 Jun 18 14:43
How's yer luck. Umpire gives out on the front foot if it was the other way round it is not out and then they change the ball and it is swinging and bouncing! Narrow margins. We were looking good there for a minor recovery in fundage!
By:
wondersobright
When: 03 Jun 18 15:11
reach tea yes/no?
By:
VardonVoo.
When: 03 Jun 18 15:28
Had a large waiting be at 1.1 so that 5th wicket was loaded with one-tick seethe. Uncanny how often that happens.
By:
tomtimtum
When: 03 Jun 18 15:31
Mikey slating T20, what a surprise!
By:
B1GTONY76
When: 03 Jun 18 15:44
what time is tea today ?
By:
tomtimtum
When: 03 Jun 18 15:56
ouch
By:
tomtimtum
When: 03 Jun 18 15:57
nose looks cut
By:
johnnythebull
When: 03 Jun 18 16:01
v poor effort from Pak tbf

WTF do they think they are..England ffs?Grin
By:
tomtimtum
When: 03 Jun 18 16:02
Broad bullying Root again!
By:
tomtimtum
When: 03 Jun 18 16:02
missing leg by a mile
By:
slip5
When: 03 Jun 18 16:17
i made a thread for the bangla vs afghan cricket game
By:
tomtimtum
When: 03 Jun 18 16:21
not being shown anywhere is it
By:
Cardinal Scott
When: 03 Jun 18 16:23
My small loss on this feels much worse when I look at how much time I've spent on it...............also my entry was 1.66 Eng Cry Good riddance to this game.Sad
By:
johnnythebull
When: 03 Jun 18 16:24
hope the boy Jos can continue his vein of form against stiffer opposition

should also persevere with Bess
By:
Whisperingdeath
When: 03 Jun 18 16:37
Yep very disappointed with Pakistan. I thought they were unlucky on the first day but to be fair have been completely out played by England. I have to say I got it wrong but managed to red out and make some money from that so not bad at all on betfair but I took a hiding on the run lines on Bet365 c'est la vie!
By:
mafeking
When: 03 Jun 18 16:38
buttler averaging 35 after today's knock. not too bad batting at 6 or 7 and keeping most of the time. considerably better than any of the new top order batsmen in the last couple of years
By:
Charlie
When: 03 Jun 18 16:44
WD
How did you make some money by redding out? That's a trick I need to learn.
By:
posy
When: 03 Jun 18 16:44
Paki batsmen hoisted the red crescent whilst still in the dressing room. Total capitulation ;looked a completely different team from Lords.
By:
johnnythebull
When: 03 Jun 18 16:46
Al Jazeerah job innit
By:
tyco161
When: 03 Jun 18 17:22
Isn't it Ramadan or something? They will have been low on energy and concentration. No eating during hours of sun. Thats a tough ask playing a test match.
By:
Whisperingdeath
When: 03 Jun 18 17:28

Charlie 03 Jun 18 16:44 Joined: 01 Dec 01 | Topic/replies: 22,109 | Blogger: Charlie's blog

WD How did you make some money by redding out? That's a trick I need to learn.


Charlie,

First of all those who fight and run away live to fight another day.

I used some of the money from the red out to back Zverev in the tennis at 1.69 and 2's. Recouped a third of my loss and also backed  Sloane Stevens. tbf I chickened out. I only bet a small sum on Stevens at 2.34 when I shoulda thrown the kitchen sink at it. That is the trouble with losses. They make you bold and and care free when you shouldn't or are  cautious and careful when you should be swinging! Coulda made fousands on the last two call's!
By:
sageform
When: 03 Jun 18 18:42
Shame there isn't a decider.
By:
detraveller
When: 03 Jun 18 22:09
I used some of the money from the red out to back Zverev in the tennis at 1.69 and 2's. Recouped a third of my loss and also backed  Sloane Stevens. tbf I chickened out. I only bet a small sum on Stevens at 2.34 when I shoulda thrown the kitchen sink at it. That is the trouble with losses. They make you bold and and care free when you shouldn't or are  cautious and careful when you should be swinging! Coulda made fousands on the last two call's!

That sounds like me from a year ago. You've got to be better than that WD. Don't go mugging to the tennis. Its a trap.
But just to boast a bit, I have sloane on the outright and Zverev as well(Zverev at 60 and 44 Cool)

As for this game, I am happy its over. Got my red down from 200+ to below 100 despite not being able to monitor my bets during play on day 2 and 3. Going back to the tennis outright again...
By:
Fatslogger
When: 03 Jun 18 23:34

Jun 3, 2018 -- 6:24AM, wondersobright wrote:


That’s just hindsight, I’m afraid. how is it hindsight when I've said it before his innings??????????????????????????????????????????????????????If he’d scored a quick 30 (he’d already played himself in), that would have been just fine. He’s a fairly capable hitterhow many times has he done this please?other than that monstrosity of a pitch @ the MCGhe is far more likely to play and miss a few times, hit a couple of shots and then get out for a single figure score in v little timethus not allowing buttler to freely score at the other endso we will agree to disagree on all your points, bar the bit about the result


Bit late to this. I hadn’t actually spotted you’d had the same view in prospect. I still disagree with it though.

How many many times has he done it? He averages 20 at a SR of 65 and has played about a million tests so really quite a few.

Don’t get me wrong, I think his batting has underperformed his talent partly because he’s often brainlessly aggressive, it’s just that actually this wasn’t a bad situation for playing his shots and one of his quick 30s would have been great. England didn’t badly need quick runs as it was hardly a declaration situation but neither was there any huge need to grind out every possible run in a tight game and even then it doesn’t hurt to score at both ends. What he did was fine, he just didn’t execute his shot well (cf the shot Buttler played early in his innings which should have had him caught midwicket).

By:
Fatslogger
When: 03 Jun 18 23:38
Sadly, I’ve just checked Broad’s batting list and I make it 39 times he’s scored 24 or more (okay, that’s somewhat fewer than 30) at a strike rate of 65 plus. His average is actually rather poor for the number of starts he’s got but then he does bat a long way down the order.
By:
Fatslogger
When: 03 Jun 18 23:43
Take it back, think it’s 36 times, 11 of which were under 30 (a quick 25 or so is his signature). It would actually be quite a useful number 9 contribution in a good side.
By:
jucel69
When: 04 Jun 18 00:25
Had an inkling this might happen so I closed my position yesterday morning and went out for the day (sans phone!)
Got back when they were 6 down and didn't even bother going for gold.
All in all a decent result for me personally, which looked impossible half way through day 1.
Hopefully that's stopped the rot, April and May were vile months from a betting viewpoint
By:
mafeking
When: 04 Jun 18 00:30
broad's on the verge of 3000 runs. alright he's played plenty of tests but there's very few bowlers with that many runs

sure he's not really capable of playing a proper innings any more but as FS says he's slogged plenty of quick 20s and 30s in the last few years. bit of a myth that he's a walking wicket
By:
wondersobright
When: 04 Jun 18 09:57
it is a well known fact in cricket that broad's batting has gone off a cliff in the last few years

broad's last 20 innings in tests in eng (comparable conditions):

2, 0, 0, 38, 14*, 0, 5, 7, 3, 5, 0, 0, 57*, 5, 0, 13, 1, 17, 14, 7 (may 2016-june 2018)

scores
less than 10: 16
10 to 30: 4
over 30: 2

thanks but I'd prefer to see him leaving or blocking when on strike and allowing buttler to play his shots at the other end as the payoffs for the team are far greater using this strategy than they are to have broad slogging and occasionally getting useful runs himself

if its broad & anderson left at the end then I am with you 100% on your strategy argument but it is selfish and braindead I'm afraid with a batsman of buttler's class on 70+ not out at the other end
By:
wondersobright
When: 04 Jun 18 10:02
eng were 150ish in front at the time in the morning session of day 3 in a test where the bowling conditions have been good

there was no necessity to advance the game at the rate broad decided he would

it was selfish batting, and so typically selfish I might add
By:
detraveller
When: 04 Jun 18 23:48
Really looking forward to the India series. Eng don't look like taking 20 wickets if the conditions don't heavily favor them. It doesn't take long to make them feel ordinary. And they have scored 400+ twice in their last 10 tests(one loss one draw).
By:
Fatslogger
When: 05 Jun 18 00:09

Jun 4, 2018 -- 3:57AM, wondersobright wrote:


it is a well known fact in cricket that broad's batting has gone off a cliff in the last few yearsbroad's last 20 innings in tests in eng (comparable conditions):2, 0, 0, 38, 14*, 0, 5, 7, 3, 5, 0, 0, 57*, 5, 0, 13, 1, 17, 14, 7 (may 2016-june 2018)scoresless than 10: 1610 to 30: 4over 30: 2thanks but I'd prefer to see him leaving or blocking when on strike and allowing buttler to play his shots at the other end as the payoffs for the team are far greater using this strategy than they are to have broad slogging and occasionally getting useful runs himselfif its broad & anderson left at the end then I am with you 100% on your strategy argument but it is selfish and braindead I'm afraid with a batsman of buttler's class on 70+ not out at the other end


It’s a well repeated canard that Broad’s batting has gone off a cliff. That’s not quite the same thing, is it? He’s always been more of a hitter than a proper batsman, which is a shame but there you go.

I see you cherry picked your stats much as I did.

Buttler wasn’t actually on 70+ at the time Broad was out but he certainly was set.

Broad just bats like that. As I’ve said, this is a problem sometimes but wasn’t particularly here.

By:
Fatslogger
When: 05 Jun 18 00:41

Jun 3, 2018 -- 6:25PM, jucel69 wrote:


Had an inkling this might happen so I closed my position yesterday morning and went out for the day (sans phone!)Got back when they were 6 down and didn't even bother going for gold. All in all a decent result for me personally, which looked impossible half way through day 1.Hopefully that's stopped the rot, April and May were vile months from a betting viewpoint


Now that’s discipline. By contrast, I screwed a reasonable position to make only a small green when even a tiny bit of thought would have told me the draw was only likely to go up while England batted and that being on it with Pak batting was very high risk of green evaporating. Not a good test for me but at least I didn’t lose the nearly £4K I was red on England day 1.

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