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By:
East_Coast_Eagle
When: 07 Aug 17 01:38
do you think its in a ready condition to play ? i always had assumption drainage at grounds would be good and ready to go
By:
pxb
When: 07 Aug 17 01:42
ECE, apparently not at OT. Prematch, a lot of effort went into drying the outfield after less rain than we are having now.
By:
detraveller
When: 07 Aug 17 01:45
I have no clue tbh. I dont know how much of a delay puddles like the one we see now cause(probably none). I am just counting on the outfield already being in a suspect state before the start of the match.

When India-Eng game's day got abandoned, the issue was that the groundsmen started working too quickly after the rain stopped which worsened the state of the ground. That delay wasn't caused by the drainage, but by the construction work and groundsmen going in too early. Now this could either mean they are careful and take their time getting the ground ready, causing a delay. Or it could mean they have learnt their lesson and know exactly what to do to get the ground ready in time.
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East_Coast_Eagle
When: 07 Aug 17 01:49
Old Trafford has previously had some problems with wet muddles and drainage. https://www.theguardian.com/sport/2014/aug/08/rebuidling-work-old-trafford-drainage-unable-to-cope
By:
East_Coast_Eagle
When: 07 Aug 17 01:52
full link: /rebuidling-work-old-trafford-drainage-unable-to-cope
By:
East_Coast_Eagle
When: 07 Aug 17 01:56
Quote from Nasser Hussain 3 years ago: “The one thing you probably want to get right at Old Trafford is the drainage,” said Hussain, the former England captain, on Sky Sports. “It’s a shame that one heavy shower has ended up with the whole day called off.”
By:
jucel69
When: 07 Aug 17 04:17
Tomorrow's forecast is for rain & heavy rain from 1pm
That makes it interesting if there are 4 session left max, especially if there is any delay today
I've taken another grands worth of draw at 8.6/8.8.
Under normal conditions the draw would be about 6s for a team trying to survive 120 overs.
England still have 2 wickets left too.
By:
jucel69
When: 07 Aug 17 04:22
Atherton said the outfield was sodden on the first morning and there hadn't been rain for 18 hours prior.
By:
jucel69
When: 07 Aug 17 04:46
market says no delay for wet outfield, rain has stopped in Manchester and the draw takes off
By:
jucel69
When: 07 Aug 17 04:47

Aug 7, 2017 -- 4:46AM, jucel69 wrote:


market says no delay for wet outfield, rain has stopped in Manchester and the draw takes off


doesn't care about the forecast for tomorrow either

By:
pxb
When: 07 Aug 17 04:55
UK Met showing Tuesday wetter than other forecasts.

Still water on the outfield. I'm not going to touch this.
By:
jucel69
When: 07 Aug 17 04:58
You never know, maybe England have had a word with the groundsman and told him to take his time.
Surprised they aren't on the ground already tbf
By:
ihatearsenal
When: 07 Aug 17 05:13
BBC Weather showing showers from 9am.
By:
jucel69
When: 07 Aug 17 05:16
now the floodlights have gone off you see all the dark patches on the outfield & puddles
By:
ihatearsenal
When: 07 Aug 17 05:19
And the draw flys out to 10.5 !!!
By:
pxb
When: 07 Aug 17 05:23
Only 5:30 am.
By:
pxb
When: 07 Aug 17 05:45
Humid and mostly cloudy. There won't be much natural drying.
By:
jucel69
When: 07 Aug 17 05:48
Might be a shower about 8am, that will slow things down!
By:
jucel69
When: 07 Aug 17 06:12

Aug 7, 2017 -- 5:48AM, jucel69 wrote:


Might be a shower about 8am, that will slow things down!


disappeared already

By:
Fatslogger
When: 07 Aug 17 07:18
Met office forecast for tomorrow far less horrific now. Can't quite decide whether to hope for lower draw price if Ali and Broad bat on (although you'd expect both to play shots rather than dig in) or SA manage a long partnership for the first or second wicket or just cash what draw I've got left in now.

Think I'll wait a bit.
By:
pxb
When: 07 Aug 17 07:28
Water that was on the outfield has sunk in.  Bet the ground is soft there.
By:
nigelpm1
When: 07 Aug 17 07:33
nice work from groundstaff - out and about already - couple of covers removed.  Shouldn't be any issues starting on time.  98 overs today - improved forecast tomorrow.  Draw should be well north of 10 now.
By:
Fatslogger
When: 07 Aug 17 08:04
Oddly SA and draw both out overnight. I thought SA far too short but still rather counter intuitive.
By:
Cardinal Scott
When: 07 Aug 17 08:45
Waking Up to that on the match odds SadCrySad
By:
Cardinal Scott
When: 07 Aug 17 08:47
All the puddles have not become one Large Lake Trafford, they have bloody disappeared Cry I'll have to Lay Eng
By:
pxb
When: 07 Aug 17 08:59
The issue is soft ground from subsurface water.
By:
Cardinal Scott
When: 07 Aug 17 09:07
The match odds tells us they are No Issues whatsover.
By:
Cardinal Scott
When: 07 Aug 17 09:12
On the webcam still it still loooks sodden to the front right but there is no activity there so maybe just the camera. Plain
By:
Cardinal Scott
When: 07 Aug 17 09:20
^front left rather^
By:
pxb
When: 07 Aug 17 09:27
Jeez. They are fencing off the wet area.
By:
pxb
When: 07 Aug 17 09:33
I've never seen that before.
By:
jucel69
When: 07 Aug 17 09:42
Inside the boundary?  Not allowed to change the boundaries once the game has commenced
By:
pxb
When: 07 Aug 17 09:44
There will be a ****storm if they play with that.
By:
pxb
When: 07 Aug 17 09:47
And the draw keeps marching up.
By:
Cardinal Scott
When: 07 Aug 17 09:53
Why isn't that causing an Eng drift?  I'm CONFOUNDED!
By:
detraveller
When: 07 Aug 17 09:55
wtf is happening?
By:
timbo-returns
When: 07 Aug 17 09:59
Nothing is happening. Play will start on time.
By:
cricketnut2
When: 07 Aug 17 10:21
And with a wet outfield this surface although covered will favour the seamers even more, England could declare, but won't, so just try and smash the ball, if we get another 30 great, if we don't it won't matter. South Africa will be bowled out quickly if the surface is like on Friday. especially with Moheen turning it as well.
By:
detraveller
When: 07 Aug 17 10:24
met has some afternoon rain
By:
wondersobright
When: 07 Aug 17 10:33
storm in a tea cup about the outfield

this is not the west indies Laugh
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