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detraveller When: 15 Jul 17 17:16

Its like the umpire wasn't sure about it, I am not sure about it, but let;s challenge it.

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jucel69 When: 15 Jul 17 17:16

Jul 15, 2017 -- 5:15PM, tomtimtum wrote:

If you aren't sure about the LBW review, that should be a clue in itself

another thing is to see where the ball goes after. It can often give you a hint!

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johnnythebull When: 15 Jul 17 17:18

can Eng bat for 2 days to save this match
once the currant comes out
and it becomes a road?
i very much doubt it

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wondersobright When: 15 Jul 17 17:19

Jul 15, 2017 -- 5:16PM, detraveller wrote:

Its like the umpire wasn't sure about it, I am not sure about it, but let;s challenge it.

reviews should be saved for raging injustices, like that caught behind earlier

not hmmm it might be clipping let's roll the dice

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Fatslogger When: 15 Jul 17 17:20

Jul 15, 2017 -- 5:19PM, wondersobright wrote:

Jul 15, 2017 -- 5:16PM, detraveller wrote:Its like the umpire wasn't sure about it, I am not sure about it, but let;s challenge it.reviews should be saved for raging injustices, like that caught behind earliernot hmmm it might be clipping let's roll the dice

You say that but with good umpires there aren't many raging injustices and it's no time necessarily wrong to be a bit speculative on lbws, since the rule changes. Certainly shouldn't be any more than a bit speculative though and the bowler should largely be ignored in deciding on the review (unless they don't want it in which case it's never out).

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Fatslogger When: 15 Jul 17 17:23

Was just about to ask where I should be selling off my draw green? The answer is clearly a very long time ago.

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wondersobright When: 15 Jul 17 17:32

that caught behind was a raging injustice but I take your point fry is not a great umpire

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wondersobright When: 15 Jul 17 17:33

that LBW that they referred never looked out to me

thought it could be outside the line and a bit high so was more than a bit speculative imo

although people are allowed to be wrong, an appeal is an opinion

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Injera When: 15 Jul 17 17:34

FS - you may be able to lay the pants off it at 10s tomorrow.

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DAN1974 When: 15 Jul 17 17:44

England have been too short again

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DAN1974 When: 15 Jul 17 17:54

draw back in to 16

even if SA bat all day tomorrow theres still no way it can be a draw

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DAN1974 When: 15 Jul 17 18:11

start the car.....

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wondersobright When: 15 Jul 17 18:14

england 7/1 already...I think the market has realised they are staring down the barrel of a huge 4th inns chase, which they are not going to be successful in

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Cardinal Scott When: 15 Jul 17 18:14

Somewhere down the line draw could fall below 10's again.......that last statement was drenched in wishful thinking!

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wondersobright When: 15 Jul 17 18:15

18/1 for a draw lol, its 18/1 to get to a 5th day imo

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DAN1974 When: 15 Jul 17 18:18

that was closer than the one they reviewed

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wondersobright When: 15 Jul 17 18:18

sliding

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wondersobright When: 15 Jul 17 18:19

no, clipping

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wondersobright When: 15 Jul 17 18:19

fair decision to say not out though, and right not to review

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DAN1974 When: 15 Jul 17 18:20

Right i'm off, its been a good day for me and my fellow draw layers

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wondersobright When: 15 Jul 17 18:30

dawson on to bowl the last over lol, make it a good 1 liam

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wondersobright When: 15 Jul 17 18:32

my granny could have kept dawson out there

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tomtimtum When: 15 Jul 17 18:43

time for the real cricket, Blast Time !

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Fatslogger When: 15 Jul 17 20:44

Have set up draw lays at 19 and 15 to go properly red. If it gets down to 12 or so I'm going to keep laying it until I'm about £20k red. This cannot be a draw. The only thing is how to get the most out of it not being

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Fatslogger When: 15 Jul 17 20:45

To be honest, just blasting £10k on SA would probably be the most sensible thing to do.

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pxb When: 15 Jul 17 20:48

Forecast pretty good from now on. Draw will likely go shorter, and there will some optimistic souls thinking Eng still have a chance.

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DAN1974 When: 15 Jul 17 21:12

WinViz has the draw at 4.8% , how on earth do they work that out???

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Cardinal Scott When: 15 Jul 17 22:04

Jul 15, 2017 -- 8:48PM, pxb wrote:

Forecast pretty good from now on. Draw will likely go shorter, and there will some optimistic souls thinking Eng still have a chance.

I would be one of those "Optimistic Souls" highly unlikely but not out of the question. Remember this not long ago. http://www.espncricinfo.com/ci/engine/current/match/1000881.html yes it failed but a wonderful reminder not to make assumptions.

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DAN1974 When: 15 Jul 17 22:06

the thing is SA have got enough time to set them more than that

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Cardinal Scott When: 15 Jul 17 22:13

Jul 15, 2017 -- 10:06PM, DAN1974 wrote:

the thing is SA have got enough time to set them more than that

That will be where the WinViz gets its 4.8% from.

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DAN1974 When: 15 Jul 17 22:15

yep thats right, although theres no way it will happen

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pxb When: 15 Jul 17 22:17

Obviously it will depend on how many SAF get, but you'd fancy them for at least a 350 lead. And Eng at 8 too short IMO. I might be interested over 15.

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East_Coast_Eagle When: 16 Jul 17 00:13

Need SA to bat all day tomorrow and England to bat deep into 4th day for Draw to collapse. Du Plessis is an attacking captain so I don't think he will let the game meander along.

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Fatslogger When: 16 Jul 17 00:23

Jul 15, 2017 -- 10:06PM, DAN1974 wrote:

the thing is SA have got enough time to set them more than that

Australia had more time to set more that game but didn't. Also wasn't at TB. WinViz thinks SA bat all tomorrow and some of day 4 and may be saying draw over 1% because it doesn't understand declarations and thinks they could bat for 5 more sessions or something. I've seen a lot of situations where it's clearly on drugs.

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mafeking When: 16 Jul 17 00:25

in the real world england will likely be 2 or 3 down tomorrow night and all over by tea day 4

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East_Coast_Eagle When: 16 Jul 17 00:34

whats the weather like in Nottingham in the next few days?

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Cardinal Scott When: 16 Jul 17 00:44

Tomorrow light cloud 1st 2 sessions and sunshine last session, Monday the sun will have his hat for all day long, Tuesday light cloud, No Sign of any rain.

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Cardinal Scott When: 16 Jul 17 09:24

Downward Pressure on the Draw while I was asleep is welcome!

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Frankie The Hustler When: 16 Jul 17 09:41

What will happen the Eng price this morning if early wickets do not come? At what stage will the market give up?

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Cardinal Scott When: 16 Jul 17 09:46

I agree the Draw is Bonkers should be 32 at least but its helping and I want it to do even more outlandish things today.