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By:
DStyle
When: 03 Nov 15 08:04
it has been an innings of a side more concerned about losing a series 0-2 than leveling it to 1-1.
By:
Howdi
When: 03 Nov 15 08:05
^^ not so sure about that comms reckon 250 is par so havent they done well?
By:
BJT
When: 03 Nov 15 08:07
Comms?  What the hell do they know?
By:
Howdi
When: 03 Nov 15 08:07
generally more than us
By:
Howdi
When: 03 Nov 15 08:07
come on BJT lazy comment!
By:
BJT
When: 03 Nov 15 08:10
Not really.  If we bet to what the comms say, we would all be broke in a week.
By:
BJT
When: 03 Nov 15 08:10
At least by not listening I am dragging it out to a couple of weeks...  ffs
By:
DStyle
When: 03 Nov 15 08:11
he's right though,

they've not relayed the square since the kiwis scored 690 here a year ago. i'd say 360ish is par.

pakistan were careless in their first innings, england's response has been ludicrously over-cautious.

the chances of england winning rest largely on pakistan showing the same carelessness second time around.
By:
Howdi
When: 03 Nov 15 08:12
deary me .
By:
BJT
When: 03 Nov 15 08:12
Exactly.  Comms go as far as seeing what Pakistan made, and figure in a careless wicket and come up with 250.  Is ridiculous.
By:
Howdi
When: 03 Nov 15 08:13
everyone knows better these days.
By:
Whisperingdeath
When: 03 Nov 15 08:14
comms are just as confused as us about this pitch

some of them are worth listening to and others not. I listen to Geoffrey and Atherton.
By:
Howdi
When: 03 Nov 15 08:14
So if an ex player invited you to a net and took you through what he'd learnt over a 20 year career. You'd say **** it they know nothing.
By:
maltese falcon
When: 03 Nov 15 08:14
The draw looks very fair to me atm.  Backing Pakistan to bat for approximately 5 and a half sessions at 9/2.  It's unlikely but don't think it's a 9/2 chance.
By:
BJT
When: 03 Nov 15 08:15
Well most on here make their money betting on the cricket.  The comms make money by finding things to say for hours on end.
By:
BJT
When: 03 Nov 15 08:17

Nov 3, 2015 -- 8:14AM, Howdi wrote:


So if an ex player invited you to a net and took you through what he'd learnt over a 20 year career. You'd say **** it they know nothing.


A net?  Why a net?

How many times do captains get the toss wrong?  Their whole career is based around getting it right, and they are out there playing on it.  Commentators are not playing on it, they are basing their opinion on what they see from 100 metres away and from the vision.  Just as we do.

By:
Whisperingdeath
When: 03 Nov 15 08:17
you look at the technique of some of these players and you begin to wonder.....

representing your country should be the pinnacle of your career and you should be at the hight of your powers. Some of these batsmen have such glaring deficiencies you have to wonder.
By:
Howdi
When: 03 Nov 15 08:21
I begin to wonder to Plain
By:
jucel69
When: 03 Nov 15 08:53
Stokes must be made of steelSurprised
By:
BJT
When: 03 Nov 15 08:57
Hesitant to write him off here.  Remember playing juniors and the team we were playing had their best player break his arm.  In a cast, he went out there, played opposite hand, basically one handed, and retired on 50 as you are required to.

But then, if they have any go here, they simply bowl quick, and short.  Jar his bat or make him work his shoulders.
By:
Howdi
When: 03 Nov 15 08:59
Drw 6-1 with Patrick Power 5s on here
By:
Howdi
When: 03 Nov 15 08:59
draw just gone 9/2 with power
By:
Whisperingdeath
When: 03 Nov 15 09:01
get wahab on here, short and full

as if by magic!
By:
Whisperingdeath
When: 03 Nov 15 09:03
another short one please!
By:
DStyle
When: 03 Nov 15 09:06
howdi - i think on certain things, yes, an ex-player's judgement is way superior to mine and i would always defer to their viewpoint.

but by and large, having watched and listened to decades of cricket, their assessment of conditions is no better than mine. in fact, i'm far more prepared to make an assessment which is contrary to what has happened on the field, rather than assuming the a side's score is consistent with the conditions, which is more often than not the position the commentators take.
By:
Howdi
When: 03 Nov 15 09:07
fair point.
By:
jucel69
When: 03 Nov 15 09:16
3 front line bowlers for England, be interesting to see how they fare
By:
DStyle
When: 03 Nov 15 09:17
think this england price is one or two wickets premature....
By:
Whisperingdeath
When: 03 Nov 15 09:18
Interesting times. This is where you traders can make a fortune or get burnt at the stake. I have concluded my action and just looking to reduce exposure now.

Every over with new wicket will ad ticks. Every wicket will see the price crash. timing is impossible and dangerous as 1 wicket could lead to 2 or 3 or 4. Dangerous time to be exposed on England as if wickets falls it will be hard to recoup any money right up to the end of the match ( and hopefully Pakistan winBlush)

Geoffrey thinks Pakistan may have problems but should the lead be knocked off without the loss of too many wickets the pressure is returned to England.

Must remember to cash out after every 50 odds runs assuming wickets are not crashing. On the plus side the big red is still on the draw moderate red England now
By:
jucel69
When: 03 Nov 15 09:18
Azhar Ali is a much better batsman than Masood
By:
Whisperingdeath
When: 03 Nov 15 09:28
I saw him bat as a teenager at lords against Australia. I was struck by how much time he had. Should he survive the new ball i would expect him to get a decent score today
By:
Whisperingdeath
When: 03 Nov 15 09:31
anyone with steel balls and deep pockets would do well to back the draw here. I think if there is no new ball wicket it falls from 5 to 4 within 30-45 minutes
By:
Whisperingdeath
When: 03 Nov 15 09:34
12 out of 270 odds teams with a first innings deficit of more than 72 have won in Asia. Thank God we are in Asia minor!
By:
jucel69
When: 03 Nov 15 09:35
where did you pluck that gem from?
By:
jucel69
When: 03 Nov 15 09:37
missed that imo
By:
Whisperingdeath
When: 03 Nov 15 09:38
not out for me
By:
Whisperingdeath
When: 03 Nov 15 09:43
wow that was extraordinary phew
By:
johnnythebull
When: 03 Nov 15 09:47
if Pak apply themselves and get 300 is 230 too much 4 Eng in the 4th inns or achievable?
By:
jucel69
When: 03 Nov 15 09:47
No problem with this approach, see off England's two main bowlers. They know they can play the spinners with relative ease
By:
Whisperingdeath
When: 03 Nov 15 09:47
12 is the magic number


prices shoot out to 12 then come back

I think the draw might come down to the low 3's at some point but I will not be able to take advantage
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