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Im on Pak, can't see another other result with the spin and reverse swing threat.
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missed out on some extra runs with that hit on yer man's knee
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I'm glad the game is moving on, my main worry was the draw. England are going to have to play out of their skin to win from here
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Think you might be right Juce but staying with England for now
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Pak odds drifting a fair bit presumably on the premise Eng will have a 1st inns lead..not so sure about that personally
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Got to be scared of this Shah and Wahab on the reverse but until then England should make a good fist of things.
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strange that having drifted they're now hardening....match very finely balanced
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unless the pitch changes dramatically on the last 2 days only the frailties of either side's batting or stud bowling should ensure any result other than a draw imho
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he ain't no opening bat
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must be kind of surreal playing to effectively empty grounds bit like at Man City
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Sri Lanka are 1/6 now. How can you call me foolish after saying that?
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You will work it out one day. Maybe....
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f off Bell u useless arrogant little pr*ck
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you word stuff so you can get out of it when it goes wrong... "All out for 390?" you were indicating it was a stupid thing to say.
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if Cook goes early this is all over midway thru day 2
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I just can't believe Bell has made a career in this team. Always looks 'busy', always looks confident but rarely gives us a good show.
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is this better? I believe Victoria could chase that 250 down against South Australia... 2/1 atm
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ur multi tasking ...Mike
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backed a bit of the draw @ 4.4..could be a stand or 2 in the offing..cue collapse
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if the pitch is like this on day 2 johnny, it's hard to see this going to a draw.
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Moeem and Bell are walking wickets anyway so draw still has just as much of a chance l
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I have laid the draw, at 3.5, but we have 12 wickets in 9 hours cricket, or whatever overs have been bowled. England don't play spin well, they do on a very slow turner, but not expecting much from too many of the batsmen. Cook and Root scored over 350 of the 1st innings runs last time, on a dead wicket and Pakistan now have a high quality spinner playing here, so unless these two can go big again, then I would of thought a Pakistan win is most likely.
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Eng lay looks the bet..not exactly distinguishing themselves batting
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Bairstow,Stokes,Buttler..u'd have to be a brave man to see them getting you 150/200 runs
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Pak quickies getting more out of the wkt than Eng
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out of all of that mess they've somehow accumulated over 4rr.
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i think bell has to go. the grit isn't there any more, even his knocks against australia over the summer at edgbaston were flashy and too aggressive by his standards.
my concern is that england have a tough winter (pakistan away, sa away) followed by a softer summer (SL Pakistan at home followed by bangladesh away), and then 2016 to 2017 is challenging (india away, south africa home, australia away) If we delay the decision to replace him until next summer, we risk doing another gary ballance: letting someone score softer runs against weaker opposition to only find out later on that they're not good enough against better bowlers. We need to blood our new middle order batsman here and against south africa. |
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Bell should have gone before during or after the ashes, pointless bringing him here.
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He averages 43 which is sh1te for someone with his ability.
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actually surprised his ave is that good
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cook and root will put on a double hundred stand. All in England to beat these match fixing scum bags.
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it's not that good since the start of the ashes: it's about 23.
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Bell has to go soon. Taylor deserves another chance. We need an opener. I'd actually like to throw Stokes in at 3 to develop his game, maybe not yet but both Botham and Flintoff were better batsmen than their test records show.
Ali was doing fine at 8. I remember Steve Waugh averaging 273 in his first series in England coming in at 7. Alan Border was asked is there a case for moving Steve Waugh up the order and Border just said dismissively " why, don't you think he making enough runs where he is! ". The same could be said for Moen. I figured the game would go like this. these two need to make a huge stand or England will be charcoaled. I can see Shah cleaning up in the second and Wahab not getting a chance with reverse!. England must attrition Shah and Wahab first innings and punish the filth to put pressure back on Misbah. I think Pakistan win this game but staying with England a bit longer. |
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