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By:
bigted.
When: 27 Dec 13 12:32
you mugs are talking like its gsm ...please
By:
kt22
When: 27 Dec 13 12:33
Gee you soap dodgers sure got chirpy after a few good sessions.Shame you couldn't stump up when it actually mattered.


WHO HAS THE ASHES?
By:
Whisperingdeath
When: 27 Dec 13 12:55
bigted.
27 Dec 13 12:32

you mugs are talking like its gsm ...please



The difference Ted is that when we do it we are trying to inject some humour.  When Aussie does it they actually believe it despite all the evidence before them!


Having said that you make a good point about gsm.  I am 4.65 on England and Geoffrey has advised me to let it ride. He feels the pressure will be off England and on Aus for once.  My greed is telling me to listen to Boycs but my brain is screaming to me GREEN OUT!

It is going to be a red hot day tomorrow so I shall let it ride.
By:
SecondComing
When: 27 Dec 13 12:56

Dec 27, 2013 -- 11:38AM, DStyle wrote:


so the batting looks as piss weak as it has all summer, and for large parts of this series saving some rear guards from haddin and they're suddenly not trying?the batting is still fragile, warner is still not a test cricketerit's your bowling that's won you the series.


I don't know what you're talking about, we've scored 7 centuries in 3 test matches to your 1.

Also I hate to be the bearer of bad news but generally the team who takes 20 wickets in the more efficient manner will go on to win the test match, where were all you cockmunchers last night when England were 6 for 220? you all seem keen to discuss the matter now that your team has a great chance of winning a single test match, oh yeah it's so easy to criticize another team's captain isn't it, so easy from the comfort of the armchair. Clarke has been the only captain trying to win these test matches, I will also add Clarke has scored a whole load more runs that your weak excuse for a leader.

The fact 160,000 fans have turned up to 2 days of cricket tells me the Australian public supports everything about this Australian cricket team, it's not paying off right now but it's aggressive positive cricket, something you English mugs would die for.

The ashes are gone, enjoy the erections you get from watching your team finally be involved in the contest but also understand your team was walloped 3 games in a row. This Australian team was at least competitive in that wet old miserable nation of yours that you call home.

By:
SecondComing
When: 27 Dec 13 13:00
I like how you talk up 38 degrees as if it's going to be the hottest day that any team has ever had to play a game of cricket in, maybe in England.

Australia? no, 38 degrees is mild.
By:
SecondComing
When: 27 Dec 13 13:06
1 more thing, these clowns saying "it's 3-3 if you combine the two series", nice logic.

It's 123-103 if you wanna go down that path, in favor of the Australians.
By:
donny osmond
When: 27 Dec 13 13:25
3-3 is only this year, with one to play...aka the decider

pity we had 5 at home against your 4

probably cause some fair dinkum whinging should you lose this one
By:
SecondComing
When: 27 Dec 13 13:30
if England wasn't such a dull old place we would of won at least 1 of those games that were rained out
By:
BJT
When: 27 Dec 13 13:31
So if it is 3-3, then England still hold the ashes then?
By:
donny osmond
When: 27 Dec 13 13:46
ashes never leave lords !!!
By:
BJT
When: 27 Dec 13 13:51
To remind everybody of the biggest hissyfit in the history of sport?

And I am sure the trophy presented to the winner of the ashes does indeed stay with the current holders.  So that would be England with 3-3 apparantly?
By:
donny osmond
When: 27 Dec 13 14:10
no , austrailia regained "the ashes" by winning the 3rd of 5 tests to take a 3-0 lead
in the current series
By:
Whisperingdeath
When: 27 Dec 13 15:35
If England is such an 'orrible place why is it so full of Anzacs?.. and Saffers although to be fair the Saffers live in the more affluent areas!

At least we have warm beer!  It is not all that bad.
By:
oddduck
When: 27 Dec 13 17:22
think england are a touch big at 1.8ish
By:
JustWinBaby
When: 27 Dec 13 19:38
Would Clarke have sent England in if this were a live match? I doubt it.
By:
Eeternaloptimist
When: 27 Dec 13 21:20
You Aussies are a funny bunch. Apparently desperate to wipe England's nose in it and going for a 5-0 thrashing to really stick it up us prior to this test. An Aussie record test crowd baying for blood and now because you are coming off second best you couldn't be bothered. You don't know it but you are sowing the seeds of future failure here and are well on the way to only excelling in games which nobody else plays or where the other countries who do play a game are so weak that no meaningful competition is available.
By:
BJT
When: 27 Dec 13 21:25
Based on what, losing the first innings of a dead rubber against a team destroyed to the tune of retirement and physciatrists?  lol

You English are a funny bunch.  Get slaughtered this series and then win a few sessions in a dead rubber and no doubt the old thread will be resurrected telling us how England will be seen as the best cricket team in history, if they can carry on this form (as in making 250 with the bat) for another 7 years.....  LaughLaugh
By:
SecondComing
When: 27 Dec 13 21:41
Why aren't you making threads that only come back to bite you in the arse? Laugh

It's no different to when England started letting the likes of Woakes & Kerrigan play back in England when the series was done and dusted, beating England 5-0 does more harm than good from an Australian perspective in regard to the next Ashes.

If we win 5-0, half this England team gets the boot and we don't have the privilege and spanking them again next time around when they're old and frail. If we win 3-2, they go home with the attitude that they have the right playing squad moving forward, ignoring the fact that they've been near enough to useless with the bat, the only time they've looked likely with the bat is when the games have been over and they're chasing a monumental total on the 4th/5th day.

Back to the current game at hand, this MCG pitch is right up the English way of playing, not super fast or bouncy, easy to dry up runs and play that boring 2 runs an over style of cricket where you get wickets waiting for players to make mistakes rather than getting them out with aggressive cricket. These last 2 games were always going to be England's best chance of winning, Sydney not so much anymore now that Swann is gone and it's typically a spinner's pitch. I still don't think England are certs to win from here as to completely nullify the Australian's chance they will need to post 300+, something they've struggled to do all series but then again they've never been in this position all series either.

Interesting day ahead.
By:
Whisperingdeath
When: 27 Dec 13 21:58
You guys are more disingeneous by the post.  Are you telling me this match means nothing to you? Nothing to your players?  You didn't want to win 5-0 and rub it in?  What a pile of poot!  You don't care if you lose?  I thought you were Australian?


With regard to the match, the pitch has indeed been a leveller but feats of heroism with the bat by England were rather short yesterday!  The art of working the ball around seem to have gone with the arrival of heavy bats.

I feel pretty confident that England will prevail but obviously still nervous due to previous though we don't tend to choke with victory in sight like Aussie.  Should be a great day of cricket.  I have a feeling the real Kevin Pietersen will stand up.  Waiting to see if the pitch will spin.  England must bat out time too.  The run rate is unimportant.
By:
Whisperingdeath
When: 27 Dec 13 22:01
I hope one thing we can all agree on is that Brett Lee is a top blokeLaugh!
By:
Whisperingdeath
When: 27 Dec 13 22:02
and he should be given the freedon of Earls Court!
By:
Foinavon
When: 27 Dec 13 22:10
The idea that the Australian team is not giving of their best when in front of 91,000 paying customers beggars belief. Talk about making your excuses in advance.
By:
mafeking
When: 27 Dec 13 22:13
secondcoming, the aussie side is even older than the england one. likely to be 5 or 6 changes in both sides before the next series in 2015
By:
SecondComing
When: 27 Dec 13 22:23
I didn't say they're not giving their best, I am sure they're trying their arses off to get back into the game and I would fully expect them to do so, what I was suggesting is that having already won the ashes that their motivation to win this game and the next would be significantly less. I don't care what anyone says, after you celebrate like they did mid-series (having won the ashes) then you do get the feeling that was what their primary goal was.

In other words, if they lose this game.. who cares, they've already got back that urn. If they win, great.. an opportunity to make England look 3rd rate.. again Laugh

Obviously I want my team to win, i'd love nothing more but at the end of the day what I want has no bearing on the outcome of the match, it's how bad do they want it and based on the decision to throw England into bat, I would suggest they don't want it that bad, more or less to me it looks like they're preparing for South Africa.

@mafeking: yes I agree, I would argue the changes to the England side would be harder to replace than that of the Australian side. We have talented bowlers coming out from the trees, batsmen developing who are not quite there yet but the talent is obvious

That was comedy gold yesterday with Brett Lee, they all were going on about how courageous Morgan was.. he got hit about 5 times and the other time he lost his leg stump and then after it all he went on about how he was available for selection, ffs.. when Brett Lee can embarrass you in front of the world (at his age), you know you're a stuck up ****. I was hoping Mitch would get a go, deadset reckon he would of got him on the badge
By:
Ozymandius
When: 27 Dec 13 23:07
Thought it was cowardly and unprofessional from Lee to keep trying to hit Morgan.  Typical limited intellect Aussie.
By:
Whisperingdeath
When: 27 Dec 13 23:21
Sorry Ozy,

But if you talk the talk you must be prepared to walk the walk and not to square leg with your back turned.

Morgan is an odious man.  He takes cheap shots at people and has lied to Parliament about what he knew about phone tapping that destroyed peoples lives, families and careers.  He deserves more than a couple of bruises, which, heal in days.

Brett Lee was nothing if not thoroughly professional in his playing days.  He gave Morgan no more than he deserved.
By:
Ozymandius
When: 27 Dec 13 23:45
Bowl at the stumps, show your skills, slower ball, make it move, bamboozle him.

Not follow some old boy incapable of defending himself an try to hurt him. Cowardly and boorish imo irrespective of the target.
By:
SecondComing
When: 27 Dec 13 23:49
If you think Brett Lee was going to bowl 6 line and length balls to Morgan, you're deluded

It was a spectacle for that reason, people wanted to see him hurt. They wouldn't of gathered around to watch Lee whistle a few past off stump ffs, do you think it's cowardly an unprofessional of Mitchell Johnson when he cleans up the tail with some chin music?
By:
SecondComing
When: 27 Dec 13 23:52
Keep bowling there Jimmy, then put on the teapot stance when it whistles over the keepers head
By:
Ozymandius
When: 27 Dec 13 23:52
Last time I checked poor old Morgan wasn't a pro cricketer lining out for England even at the tail end.

Not cricket to be aiming at a defenceless old man.  Splatter his stumps, now that's a spectacle.
By:
SecondComing
When: 27 Dec 13 23:53

Dec 27, 2013 -- 11:52PM, Ozymandius wrote:


Last time I checked poor old Morgan wasn't a pro cricketer lining out for England even at the tail end.Not cricket to be aiming at a defenceless old man.  Splatter his stumps, now that's a spectacle.


Are you his carer?

By:
BJT
When: 27 Dec 13 23:54
What the fcuk is with all these meetings.  They are bowling at number 11 ffs.  Surely they already know what is happening?  5 of them there working it out?

Fcuking embarrassing.
By:
Only-the-Brave
When: 27 Dec 13 23:55
england making a meal of getting this last wicket.  Pretty poor bowling so far, esp when you consider that Lyon has had most of the strike.
By:
SecondComing
When: 27 Dec 13 23:59
They probably won't get these runs to close the gap but it's everything we've seen all series from England, playing defensive when the game is there to be won, waiting for a mistake..
By:
BJT
When: 28 Dec 13 00:01
England never heard of "you miss I hit"..?  Terrible bowling.
By:
DStyle
When: 28 Dec 13 00:02
pitch the ball up you tit.
By:
Only-the-Brave
When: 28 Dec 13 00:02
seriously what kind of line is this from anderson?!  shocking bowling.

Jimmy is not Mitchell Johnson.
By:
SecondComing
When: 28 Dec 13 00:03
Why is he bowling short ffs, Lyon is clearly not rattled
By:
BJT
When: 28 Dec 13 00:03
1 ball out of the 30 he has faced would have hit the stumps.....

Now they won't bowl full to him again.  1 foot off getting smacked for 6.  Anderson you fcuking goose...  lol
By:
trilby22
When: 28 Dec 13 00:03
C'mon England, knock these feckers OOT!
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