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Days 1-3 from what I know cost around $50 AUD- $70 AUD
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hello all , on a sunny morning in Perth
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Eng's chances of winning this are much larger than 20, which means opportunities to lay, especially before the new ball.
I've done well in the series markets, as early on they heavily favoured Eng. Mostly greened up now. Unfortunately nothing like the same opportunities in the shorter test series. If I was running world cricket, I'd make all test series 5 matches. ![]() |
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kelly, i think west coast almost had it right. imo, we hit that 2.76 when carberry and cook were nonefor in the first innings for some runs. market thinking not only were they going to avoid the follow on, they may get the lead.
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@ pxb kind of agree with u there, I think the Top 4 test ranked nations should play at least a best of 4 or best of 5 series. I think Ashes u could even push for a 6 match test series (they did have that for a while)
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there is 'no reason' why they couldn't have play the match at 8am given the heat which was not only forecasted, but has come to fruition. having said that, there was no way they'd do it because they would have thought it gave aussies the edge because poms theoretically cant handle hot temps because they are pasty. but they have a duty of care to players and spectators and imo this test match is almost breaching that.
i know its cricket, but quite frankly the sun is going through changes that are not covered by mainstream media. it is getting hardcore which is why authorities are doing all this 'secret' geoengineering with fake cloud cover to try and cool the planet (not a good idea to mess with mother nature). playing the majority of the day's play during the hottest time of day is ludicrous when over 38 degrees for close to five days. if they start at 8am, then only the last session is played at the hottest time of day instead of 2 sessions. often the hottest time of day in perth is around 2.30 -3.00pm. no coincidence that is the time where bowlers look a little fecked. hard to negotiate with tradition tho. tea break always has to be in the afternoon and they wouldn't have tea at 12.30pm. no doubt this is an english tradition in mid arvo(tea and scones). cant change aristocracy. ps: i always brought tim tams for our tea break and always got fined by my cricket team. lol. |
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also interested in the thoughts about Day Night test matches? there was talk of a couple of years back introducing into the game. http://www.abc.net.au/news/2013-08-30/test-run-for-day-night-shield-matches/4924676 I personally wouldnt mind it if it happened. Could have games starting at around 2pm and ending 9.30pm which is ideal for an international audience as well
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I accept those figures west coast and pokeron , I was in bed at that time and I did not check back on movements in the odds . Mature reflection however suggests to me that 2.76 was way too big , given the stranglehold that the Aussie bowlers have had on the English batsmen and the fact that equivalently the draw at that time must have been pretty good odds if it looked like a 4 day match .
Maybe I should have have stayed up ! Sometimes the markets are skewed , particularly in running as there must be less input from the Aussies due to restrictions and messiness . |
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maybe the t20 generation will see test matches played over r a two week period with 1
session per day prices for ashes in england were average of £70 per day for days 1-4 , with day 5 offered at £25 lords test would be higher |
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nice donny.............alot more expensive in the UK than Australia then
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but its all about the 'experience' some of these things in sport only come around every now and then. I been to SCG, MCG and WACA but still have GABBA, Adelaide Oval and Bellrieve Oval on the 'to do' list as well as the main venues in England
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is there a real reason why they couldnt play test matches at 8.30am?
that way, light as a factor is also somewhat eliminated. it seems ludicrous to me to go off for bad light when they spend a perfectly good morning's light doing nothing! as for day night tests, the only problem is the ball. surely by 2013 they can come up with a ball that is visible and acts the same as the current test match ball? my personal opinion is i dont like the idea of day/night tests. just feels 'wrong'. ok for one dayers and 20/20's. people who go to the cricket go to the cricket. those who don't, don't. this isn't going to change. i won't start going because it's at night. i like my foxtel. if they legalise marijuana, doesn't mean everyone is going to go out and seek some. my point is, i don't think audiences will change. cricket fans are fans, those who are not, are not. non cricket fans won't tune in just because its primetime. |
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i am a member at durham, so got tickets for 4 days, it was durhams first ashes test, so a bit of history
and i had to be there i felt it was too expensive, but as it more or less sold out , i cant argue beer was £4.30 a pint, but we lucky members could by beer tokens for £3, so just 55 pints a day to get the ticket money back ! |
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I actually like the idea of earlier start times in test cricket. I cant see any problems starting at 8.30am in fact i think thats probably the best time to play cricket. I think the only problem with starting early is , it affects the spectators more than the players. What time would the spectators have to get to the ground (around 7.30am), it might take them 1 hour to get to the ground (6.30am), they might have to put the alarm up and eat breakfast (around 6am). Not many people are early birds after a big night out the previous night (especially if its a Friday or Saturday night) if they go to the local pub/or club
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Anyone know if on Perth TV today?
Normally, not shown, if not a sellout. |
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play in uk wouldnt be possible that early because of dew
11-6 in uk is perfect, but there is still plenty of talk of evening sessions id love to visit india for a few ipl games, but otherwise t20 doesnt excite me 50 overs i love, and proper 4 day games and 5 day tests |
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yep its live http://au.tv.yahoo.com/tv-guide/101/0/0/9/
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i know i'm not going to be popular saying this, but starting early also negates somewhat the drinking culture that exists in australia. i say somewhat, because those who will get drunk will get drunk anytime, but i'm sure you know what i mean.
we all know about the drunken yobbos come 3pm at the waca! that was one reason i stopped going. sorry if you're one of those drunken yobbos west coast and donny! |
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so good to be in perth and get all five days live on tv. we only ever get the final session.
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i may have been a drunken yobo in my youth but its long past
i hate being anywhere near the barmy army when 3pm arrives |
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Im not into drinking that much, ill have a drink or 2 if its a special occassion but beer, wine isnt for me...........and im not a yobbo either
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The Barmy Army is good fun, I was singing with them on Day 3. Thats one thing the England fans have over us, they sing all day..............Im suprised why Aussie fans dont have any songs? We only got 1 song
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starting at 830 is ridiculous and will never happen, i think you need to know is that for a 1030 start players will be at the ground at 8am getting prepared for the day, an 830 start would mean 630 at the latest at the ground and a probable 5am wake-up.. will never happen
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yeah golfers are ridiculous!
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me and pokeron are golfers and well used to 7 am starts, with all that entails
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they also get paid 8 times that of cricketers, and if there was only 22 golfers in a tournament do you think they would start at 7?
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I assume the "traditional " starting time of 10.30 am or 11 am is rooted in the roots of the game in England . Given the British Isles weather , 9.00 am would still have loads of dew on the ground most of the year ( lots of our golf courses operate some sort of early morning swishing to move dew , season dependent ) .
Cant see any problem with earlier starts related to local weather conditions . In fact with the improvement in weather forecasting no reason the start of play each day is not related to weather forecasts for the day , light related obviously ) . Modern communications mean nobody would be unaware of projected start time daily . Different in the old days . |
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thanks for keeping it in context kelly
.context is everything. |
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under age kids start playing saturday mornings very early in australia. we are used to it. i used to play under 15's/17's in the morning and then keep for 90 overs in the arvo for 3rd grade.
plus how much time do you really need to prepare for cricket? boof lehman and a lot of the older cricket legends would agree that most pre game stuff nowadays are pretty much superfluous, for 'show', a waste of energy and a load of w@nk (except bowlers hitting full pace at start of play instead of an over of looseners). |
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not sure i can bring myself to stay up and watch the austrians reclaim the ashes's. night all
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i have a hypothesis that it takes so long to warm up on day one of a test because both teams are there but none of them know whether they are batting or bowling for ages. so they warm up everything and that takes forever.
if captains could just get the toss out the way super early instead of half an hour before play, they wouldnt have to rock up so early to warm up everything in case they bowl or bat. players could rock up less early/a little later because they would know that as soon as they rocked up they would know whether or not they were batting or bowling. eg, instead of rocking up at 7.30am to warm up everything for 10.00 toss and 10.30 start, they could rock up at 8.30, toss at 8.45/9.00 and then 'know' for longer what they are doing that day. |
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what i didnt understand with the australian team under mickey arthur was the rotation/sports science bollox.
didn't he preside over the saffers? did he ever hear of dale steyn asking for a break? bowling the way he is wouldn't he be the best candidate for a rotation/rest? no. because you are fit and you play, until you are not.... only way to get stability in a team. |
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lots of proven bio-mechanical research shows that fast bowlers need rest because they easily build up stress related injuries
such as back injuries etc that is the modern way, the problem being that the types of injury they get can be persistent, hard to recover from and often career threatening so prevention is far superior to cure |
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Was toying with backing England, but 20s ia a joke, win or lose.
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wouldn't back them at 50, new ball coming, wont last long
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I was looking for 100.
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anyone know what the music was then that sky were using for the intro?
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Pitch looks horrendous.
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Wicket even.
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100s england ...never
Well im on at 5.8 and im happy lol. Could be down to near that again by lunch. I hope |