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By:
Dado7029
When: 08 Dec 13 06:01
why with 5 and a bit overs left stokes
By:
West Coast Eagles
When: 08 Dec 13 06:12
If this game goes to a 5th day, its free entry to the ground
By:
jucel69
When: 08 Dec 13 06:14
if kp and root were in would be even money or odds on draw. it was 1.4 for oz just before kp got out
By:
West Coast Eagles
When: 08 Dec 13 06:19
Aussies NAILED ON to get 'Extra Time'
By:
West Coast Eagles
When: 08 Dec 13 06:21
Aussies will push the umpires to have another half an hour tonight, knowing there is rain tommorow
By:
Dado7029
When: 08 Dec 13 06:22
"Wants to play his shots" Matt Prior needs to get his act together he needs to stay in, in hindsight England were in a capable situation for the draw earlier... playing there shots some of these players need to get dropped to learn a lesson about how tactically mug like they have been here getting out playing aggressive hook shots etc Don't they get it that they need to be gritty and fight out the draw
By:
Dado7029
When: 08 Dec 13 06:22
unless they are planning to win this which is such an unwise decision
By:
jucel69
When: 08 Dec 13 06:25
what is wrong with Prior, just let it hit the thigh pad. numpty
By:
Dado7029
When: 08 Dec 13 06:26
One more wicket will allow another 1/2 hour that gives prior and broad the green light to play mug shots and get caught playing aggressive
By:
West Coast Eagles
When: 08 Dec 13 06:27
You have to give credit to England I think they have applied themselves today, been gritty, especially KP, Root, Carberry and Stokes
By:
Dado7029
When: 08 Dec 13 06:27
Prior natural mug player not stroke player, don't get why he even bothers playing deliveries which are not on stumps like that
By:
Dado7029
When: 08 Dec 13 06:29
final over of the day and Prior is trying to hit everything out of the park, detestable play for his team
By:
West Coast Eagles
When: 08 Dec 13 06:30
100 runs or more in that session matched at 6/1
By:
jucel69
When: 08 Dec 13 06:36
odds pretty similar to the start of the day! Bizarre unless we lose 2 sessions tomorrow!
By:
West Coast Eagles
When: 08 Dec 13 06:37
Just looking at the weather forecast for tommorow, 50% chance of Precipitation in the Morning session, 40% chance in the Afternoon Session, 10% Chance in the Evening Session. Not sure if we will get the whole 90 overs in, and they are switching on the lights at Adelaide Oval late on that 4th day, so light should be no problem tommorow. Im guessing that at least 60 overs will be available for the Australians to knock over. (Maximum of 90)
By:
JustWinBaby
When: 08 Dec 13 06:46
It will be an intriguing last day
By:
West Coast Eagles
When: 08 Dec 13 06:49
Also I say dont rule out the England win either................Ive seen some funny things happen in cricket....284 off 90 overs is manageable in terms of run rate
By:
megsy
When: 08 Dec 13 06:52
lol...you talking about tailenders making 284.


the best england can wish for is a draw, its going to rain tomorrow at times
By:
West Coast Eagles
When: 08 Dec 13 06:57
I think the rest will help them tonight, England will no doubt play for the draw but Broad, Swann and Andersen only know how to play 1 way and thats to attack
By:
West Coast Eagles
When: 08 Dec 13 06:58
If it gets to around 40 overs left to defend for England to save the game, Id price the odds as evens for Australia Win, and Draw
By:
jucel69
When: 08 Dec 13 07:34
on the move already!
By:
penbud
When: 08 Dec 13 08:35
oz were 1.12 at close now 1.19 very tempting
By:
posy
When: 08 Dec 13 08:35
As play stands and with tomorrow's weather forecast would have thought a fair price for an England win would be around 300.....can't understand why they're only 85/90.
By:
Charkitz
When: 08 Dec 13 09:33
I agree. Why the **** are their odds so low?? Laid my whole account at 100-1 thinking I was getting a bargain now they're into 80-1.
By:
black shuck
When: 08 Dec 13 09:57
jeez...the remaining batsmen made 9 runs between them in the first innings...ok slightly better in the 2nd but if ive ever seen free money then its laying England...and I think backing aus is also as near as damn rain or no rain ...cant see aus needing more than 20 overs to do the job
By:
logroller
When: 08 Dec 13 10:21
laying england today at 25/1 and now at 80/1 is picking up money off the ground
By:
Charkitz
When: 08 Dec 13 10:37
Geez you did well to lay them at 25/1. Looking at scorecard it's hard to see how they came in that low... They were 40/1 when I looked at lunch and those were crazily low odds even then
By:
sideshowbob
When: 08 Dec 13 10:56
there arent even enough overs left for england to win.
as if the lower order are scoring at 3 an over for an entire 5th day.
wouldnt back england at 1000/1
By:
donny osmond
When: 08 Dec 13 10:58
3.19 per over required

last ten overs they were going at 4.50

id still want a million before risking as much as a quid
By:
BJT
When: 08 Dec 13 11:02
Think they got into sub 15s didn't they when KP was still in?

The forecast I am looking at says 20% before play, 40% from 10-1, and 10% after that.  And even if it is right, which it was today, there is every chance it misses the ground anyway and should be able to make up some time after.  Can't really see any play being lost, and even if all that rain hits, no more than a session.  60 overs way more than enough to finish them off.  Prior has runs, but will need to start his innings again, and that is unlikely to be successful.  Ball already turning plenty, and plenty of close calls today, only luck can prevent an Aus win, and you make your own luck anyway.

Ball is 10 overs old, so may see a few runs early and some better odds on offer.  Think I will wait and see what the weather is tomorrow, and hope for an England fight and dump on Aus after the 30th over England going well.  These 2 can put 50 on the board with a bit of luck (doubtful) and we will see closer to 1.50 Aus judging by current odds.
May even watch the first couple and try and get a sneaky lay of Aus in for a couple of overs.  I suspect the odds will be different in the morning though with a more current radar.  All guesswork at the moment...


IMO
By:
SecondComing
When: 08 Dec 13 11:51
This is the problem betting on events which England are contesting, you get these ridiculous odds on England, they are absolutely no chance of winning tomorrow.. 3 runs an over for 90 overs in the day, they're both going to play their shots and they will need to if they want to win but seriously.. not even an absurd amount of luck gets them home as Aus have their reviews back with the new ball

Best result for England is a draw but even that is highly unlikely
By:
BJT
When: 08 Dec 13 12:35
Agreed.  But that doesn't mean for a second that Aus can't trade much higher.  The ridiculous odds are true, but they are very consistant.  When they get to where they should be, it will be quick.  But every ball they don't go out on in the morning, is a chance to get even better value on Australia.
By:
geordie1956
When: 08 Dec 13 12:53
Perhaps the reason why the odds aren't much bigger is Dennis Lillee & Rod Marsh are considering a bet on England
By:
nigelpm1
When: 08 Dec 13 15:04

Dec 8, 2013 -- 5:58AM, donny osmond wrote:


3.19 per over requiredlast ten overs they were going at 4.50id still want a million before risking as much as a quid


Cricket's a funny old game.  Broad and Prior could easily put on 100 partnership.  Where would price ENG then?

By:
Dado7029
When: 08 Dec 13 15:56
What odds will England be at the Waca?
By:
donny osmond
When: 08 Dec 13 17:50
nigel

i had them at 250/1 at start of innings

given no adverse weather and england requiring 200 runs with 4 wickets left id price an england win at 66/1
By:
West Coast Eagles
When: 08 Dec 13 18:24
It's hard to see anything but Australia wrap this up quickly tomorrow before lunch. I hope for England's sake that I'm proved wrong. They have to keep the Aussies out there as long as possible tomorrow as it will improve their chances at Perth should they win the toss and bat. We have to tire the Aussie bowlers out as much as possible tomorrow and make them work bloody hard on a lifeless pitch. Broad and Prior have to dispense with their natural games and blunt their attack. They've done it before when required. For Prior it is a massive personal knock as I can't see him playing at Perth unless he produces an innings of some substance. He strikes me as a man of substance and I'm sure he is thinking along the same lines, but Flower needs to lay it on the line to him and see how he responds. Forget the nonsense written about England - they just need to get stuck in. They can win at Perth and that process of winning there can start tomorrow
By:
West Coast Eagles
When: 08 Dec 13 18:32

Dec 8, 2013 -- 10:56AM, Dado7029 wrote:


What odds will England be at the Waca?


Id price it around Aus 1.70, Draw 4.50, England 4.50. I'll be heading over to the game for the first 3 days and really excited as this will be my First Ashes Test match. It will be good to sing songs with the Barmy Army and meet some of the players at training. The way England have batted I wouldn't be suprised if the match ends within 3-4 days. The WACA is traditionally a 'result' ground that's why I think draw is low probability. (Weather forecast should be fine in Perth)

By:
West Coast Eagles
When: 08 Dec 13 18:34
Also have to say I think Clarke got his declaration spot on here , giving his bowlers enough rest but also plenty of time to bowl Eng out a 2nd time.
By:
nigelpm1
When: 08 Dec 13 18:44
looks like we'll get the full 90 overs in if needed - odd to me to that ENG are now 150/1
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