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**The Ashes 2013 5th Test 21-25 August Kia Oval**

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By:
Butchos123
When: 21 Aug 13 09:47
Ha! Buuut seriously, I think Eng have been a great price the whole series. BJT will no doubt come on all grumpy about how there isn't much difference between the teams. However, incremental advances etc etc, all it takes is Eng to be marginally ahead in every department and that leads to scorelines like we are looking at now. Get on the home side for a grandstand finale!
By:
bigpoppapump
When: 21 Aug 13 09:48
long term results at the Oval don't bear out the idea that it's a huge toss to win and that's because the pitch stands up well during the first three days and remains okay deep into the game.  So it's not unusual to see very big scores from teams batting second.  So this idea that Aus are a lay if they are bowling is rubbish.  Aus are a lay if you think their bowling is poor AND you therefore think the draw is a player.   If you simply think Aus are rubbish (but don't rate the draw's chances) then it's back England. 

IMO any Cloud cover during any of the first three days will retrospectively make a difference to the outcome (as is who is batting/bowling at those times), and as today is fine and sunny, the winning to55er will bat (obvs), but that doesn't automatically ruin the chances of the team bowling.  360-390 is a typical first innings score here, and as Eng are not exactly in sparkling form with willow (yet) this summer I wouldn't be surprised to see them post such a total or lower.  Aus wont be massively longer than 3/1 if Eng make 350.

I would wait for in running opps to back the bowling side at long prices in the first three days.  Then get involved bigger later in the game.

First innings lead is an interesting market imo.  Got a good return (and trades) at Durham from a starting point of better than 6/4 about Aus, and that was their 3rd of 4 wins in this market this summer.  I don't see much different this time - obvs they collapsed at Lord's - but have looked much better since getting rid of the handicapped Phil Hughes and on basic cricket skills early in the game Aus are consistently as good as Eng.  That they've bottled it at key moments (Durham), collapsed at Lord's, and made a bad decision to declare their first innings early at OT is why the series is at the score it is.  But Eng are not hugely better than Aus.  Series Runs/Wicket numbers are fairly close (32 and 28) and that's got a heavy second innings bias towards Eng as well as the overly weighty effect of the Lord's numbers.
By:
rommel
When: 21 Aug 13 10:00
when do ozz fly back?any t20s or one dayers to come?
By:
trader pj
When: 21 Aug 13 10:02
Draw seems like most likely outcome for me with big 1st innings scores posted by each side
By:
Asparagus Man
When: 21 Aug 13 10:05
Reports debuts for Kerrigan and Woakes
By:
johnnyrant
When: 21 Aug 13 10:06
Swann better not be injured. Got a nice spread bet on his series wickets.
By:
DStyle
When: 21 Aug 13 10:11
woakes? really? a direct replacement for bresnan because of his batting?

if there is even the slightest bit of bounce in this wicket surely either finn or tremlett have to be given a proper go.
By:
Butchos123
When: 21 Aug 13 10:12

Aug 21, 2013 -- 10:02AM, trader pj wrote:


Draw seems like most likely outcome for me with big 1st innings scores posted by each side


Surprised

By:
BJT
When: 21 Aug 13 10:32
Aus won the toss and bat.....
By:
BJT
When: 21 Aug 13 10:37
Simon Kerrigan any relation to the Kerrigans from Bonny Doon?
By:
THERE....IS....NO....SPOOOOON
When: 21 Aug 13 10:38
Laugh Thanks for that, LetsElope Cool
By:
DStyle
When: 21 Aug 13 10:39
I like Kerrigan's selection, and giving a young lad a chance with the series decided, particularly with pissgate hanging around Panesar, it's a good selection.

But I'm still undecided about Woakes. If the wicket is really that good you've got to expect the top 5 + Prior to perform with the bat: Woakes shouldn't have to make any difference with the bat and I think in good batting conditions a better bowler is far more of an asset than an inferior one who can bat. With vaughan, would have preferred to have seen tremlett.
By:
THERE....IS....NO....SPOOOOON
When: 21 Aug 13 10:41
What's happening now, Bllowjob? Silly
By:
BJT
When: 21 Aug 13 10:42
Very little.  Just settling in in the office with a few cans awaiting some entertainment.  Lucky for us England aren't batting so there should be something happening...
By:
THERE....IS....NO....SPOOOOON
When: 21 Aug 13 10:46
Clean sweep on the cards. Cool You must be bursting with confidence.

Bllowjob                           4

Assorted Pommy dribblers           0

An outstanding series, wonder if they will be gracious enough to give you a well deserved standing ovation at the end of it?
By:
THERE....IS....NO....SPOOOOON
When: 21 Aug 13 10:47
Very little.  Just settling in in the office with a few cans awaiting some entertainment.  Lucky for us England aren't batting so there should be something happening...

Laugh I meant on the pitch!

I thought you were commentating.............Lets' Style Blush
By:
BJT
When: 21 Aug 13 10:53
lol.....  Nah, just letting the Poms know they can piss off for a couple of days while Aus bat and then come back when the odds are in the favour to post their tripe....
By:
THERE....IS....NO....SPOOOOON
When: 21 Aug 13 10:54
ummmmmm., ok. Shocked

So rain is expected? Blush
By:
BJT
When: 21 Aug 13 10:55
Nah, I expect England to enforce the follow on and Aus bat 2 innings straight up....  Laugh
By:
THERE....IS....NO....SPOOOOON
When: 21 Aug 13 10:56
Laugh I'm with you now. Laugh
By:
cardshark
When: 21 Aug 13 10:59
Early prediction - 1st batsman back in the shed quickly
By:
tommycockles
When: 21 Aug 13 11:00
Morning all, anyone else got a random credit in their account this morning?

Cricket Profit Boost - EXC13  9.04
By:
maxstout
When: 21 Aug 13 11:00
Me too, TC - and good morning
By:
BJT
When: 21 Aug 13 11:02
Just in P/L?
By:
FredRescue
When: 21 Aug 13 11:02
Why did England not prepare a bouncy pitch for this match considering it is a dead rubber.

Need some practice before series down under imo.
By:
tommycockles
When: 21 Aug 13 11:03
morning maxstout, any idea what it relates to? Not complaining, just wondering
By:
tommycockles
When: 21 Aug 13 11:04
Account statement BJT
By:
BJT
When: 21 Aug 13 11:04
Couldn't find anything on mine...
By:
Wallflower
When: 21 Aug 13 11:07
Draw 3.05?ShockedHappy
By:
GRANTCKING
When: 21 Aug 13 11:08
GOD I CANT STAND BROADS FACE
By:
maxstout
When: 21 Aug 13 11:08
TC, it's where we opted for a £50 (max) gift if we had bet and produced a profit on T20 during a short time period in mid August
By:
maxstout
When: 21 Aug 13 11:11
Better than a kick in the pants, TC. And I was lucky enough to have that amount appear in my account
By:
tommycockles
When: 21 Aug 13 11:11
Ah, ok, thank you
By:
Butchos123
When: 21 Aug 13 11:18
gAAAAAAAWn
By:
guinness2dear
When: 21 Aug 13 11:19
There's a shock.
By:
Butchos123
When: 21 Aug 13 11:20
Back to pre-toss price...
By:
GRANTCKING
When: 21 Aug 13 11:23
warner should just concentrate on T20, hes hopeless at test cricket
By:
BJT
When: 21 Aug 13 11:29
Gee that ball took off.  Hard to play that.
By:
alfee
When: 21 Aug 13 11:30
think il just tickle the draw .
By:
Whisperingdeath
When: 21 Aug 13 11:31
Tuffers is priceless!

Been to Rome and seen the ParthenonLaugh, also threw a coin in the fountain at Trevi and made a wish....England to win 4-0Laugh!
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