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**The Ashes 2013 4th Test 09-13 August Emirates Durham**

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By:
yashgupta
When: 09 Aug 13 17:40
yes KINGMAX
By:
kingmax
When: 09 Aug 13 17:41
so you think this will be a draw?
By:
kingmax
When: 09 Aug 13 17:41
sorry i missed the lay bitLaughLaugh
By:
yashgupta
When: 09 Aug 13 17:41
noooooooooooooo
By:
kingmax
When: 09 Aug 13 17:42
oh well time to sell another nut
By:
cardshark
When: 09 Aug 13 17:42
are you guys arguing the same point?
By:
sideshowbob
When: 09 Aug 13 17:42
nice for all the draw backers, presuming they layed off.

i would have expected it drop to around 2.9 at that stage, but 2.44 is remarkable at 100-1 on day 1 with no rain forecast the entire test. Shocked
By:
Darlo Bantam
When: 09 Aug 13 17:43
I don't think it's anything to do with attack being the best form of defence. Some of these players are so weened on T20 crash, bang, wallop cricket, that they don't know what to do when scoring is difficult. Just rotate the strike for a few runs during difficult periods, keep the scoring going. Four or nothing half the time with these modern day cricketers.
By:
Whisperingdeath
When: 09 Aug 13 17:46
cardshark
09 Aug 13 17:38
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Attack is the best form of defence for me. How many times do you see Real Madrid or Barca score 2 goals in the first 10 minutes, fanny around for 50 minutes and then get done for a draw late on when they could have scored 7.



Not often Sharkie but I did lay Madrid at 1.06 for a cheeky hundred last season when there were 1-0 all game and didn't kill it so put the lay in with 15 mins to go at at 1.06.  I laughed and laughed when the equaliser went in at the end!


K. Benzema 35'
(assist by Cristiano Ronaldo)
   
1 - 0
   
   
1 - 1
   
90'+2 Cazorla

even better than I thought, Carzorla got it!
By:
BJT
When: 09 Aug 13 17:48
Proving that building a foundation of blocking out 20 overs is always best.  Building a massive total here.
By:
BJT
When: 09 Aug 13 17:49
Run rate proven to be totally overrated, once again...  LaughLaugh
By:
PompeyMike
When: 09 Aug 13 17:50
The most boring and inept batting display from England in years. Truly pathetic on a wicket that is not doing much.
By:
thefavourite
When: 09 Aug 13 17:51
softest bloke in cricket gets out in a soft dismissal

wow weee.
By:
cardshark
When: 09 Aug 13 17:51
Wicket has very few gremlins in it despite being slow and a slow outfield - should have been 300 for 4 at close
By:
thefavourite
When: 09 Aug 13 17:53
one word to describe england retaining the ashes.

lucky.
By:
cardshark
When: 09 Aug 13 17:53
I have layed 275 - with Broad gone I'm hopeful !
By:
songsforthedeaf
When: 09 Aug 13 17:53
England batsmen overrated by the market, once again.
By:
Whisperingdeath
When: 09 Aug 13 17:54
Not overrated by me songs, just know that they are better than Aus sans Clarke!
By:
songsforthedeaf
When: 09 Aug 13 17:56
England Runs      Lowest Price matched

225+       1.01
250+       1.02
275+       1.03 Shocked
300+       1.09
350+       1.2
400+       1.48 Laugh
450+       2.2
By:
sideshowbob
When: 09 Aug 13 17:56
amazing how often the draw is backed in, then is virtually out the window by the end of day one.
By:
Darlo Bantam
When: 09 Aug 13 17:57
Draws just happen far less in Test cricket these days. I'm amazed people back the draw, weather aside.
By:
cardshark
When: 09 Aug 13 17:57
I have also layed 200 but looks unlikely now
By:
songsforthedeaf
When: 09 Aug 13 17:59

Aug 9, 2013 -- 5:57PM, cardshark wrote:


I have also layed 200 but looks unlikely now


IN with a chance Cool

By:
cardshark
When: 09 Aug 13 18:00
Might have to wait until tomorrow to find out?
By:
sideshowbob
When: 09 Aug 13 18:00
the draw is just a trading game and nothing to do with the actual chance of it being a draw.

everybody knows the draw drops if there hasnt been a wicket for about 2 minutes. its become a parody of itself.
By:
kruger76
When: 09 Aug 13 18:01

Aug 9, 2013 -- 6:00PM, cardshark wrote:

Might have to wait until tomorrow to find out?


Laugh

By:
kingmax
When: 09 Aug 13 18:01
ffs have they got 50 fielders
By:
kingmax
When: 09 Aug 13 18:02
this is ****g ridiculous
By:
BJT
When: 09 Aug 13 18:03
Why?  They are doing an excellent job of setting up a foundation for the innings...
By:
cardshark
When: 09 Aug 13 18:03
when I looked earlier 375 was even money - you wouldn't want to be on that
By:
Darlo Bantam
When: 09 Aug 13 18:03

Aug 9, 2013 -- 6:00PM, sideshowbob wrote:


the draw is just a trading game and nothing to do with the actual chance of it being a draw.everybody knows the draw drops if there hasnt been a wicket for about 2 minutes. its become a parody of itself.


If that's the case, just lay it. You don't have to win money every Test, it's the total in the end that counts. Or are people that obsessed with green, green, green at any cost of value?

By:
cardshark
When: 09 Aug 13 18:03
accidental nicks through the slips with the new ball is Englands best chance of scoring
By:
BJT
When: 09 Aug 13 18:04

Aug 9, 2013 -- 6:03PM, Darlo Bantam wrote:


Aug  9, 2013 --  6:00PM, sideshowbob wrote:the draw is just a trading game and nothing to do with the actual chance of it being a draw.everybody knows the draw drops if there hasnt been a wicket for about 2 minutes. its become a parody of itself.If that's the case, just lay it. You don't have to win money every Test, it's the total in the end that counts. Or are people that obsessed with green, green, green at any cost of value?


One day somebody will teach you about variance.

By:
songsforthedeaf
When: 09 Aug 13 18:05
It is worth trading out because of commission.
By:
cardshark
When: 09 Aug 13 18:05
Nice shot
By:
sideshowbob
When: 09 Aug 13 18:06
i do lay the draw. i never said that i didnt?

The Draw     3.3     £2.13     £4.90
    3.3     £2.91     £6.69
    3.3     £322.79     £742.42
    3.3     £541.74     £1,246.00
    4.5     £12.56     £43.96
    4.6     £10.00     £36.00
    4.6     £10.00     £36.00
    4.6     £12.88     £46.37
    4.6     £141.51     £509.44
    4.6     £185.61     £668.20
    4.6     £200.00     £720.00
    7.6     £16.52     £109.03
    7.6     £19.48     £128.57
    7.6     £44.00     £290.40
By:
sideshowbob
When: 09 Aug 13 18:06

Aug 9, 2013 -- 6:04PM, BJT wrote:


Aug  9, 2013 --  6:03PM, Darlo Bantam wrote:Aug  9, 2013 --  6:00PM, sideshowbob wrote:the draw is just a trading game and nothing to do with the actual chance of it being a draw.everybody knows the draw drops if there hasnt been a wicket for about 2 minutes. its become a parody of itself.If that's the case, just lay it. You don't have to win money every Test, it's the total in the end that counts. Or are people that obsessed with green, green, green at any cost of value?One day somebody will teach you about variance.


and one day, someone will teach you how to make money?

By:
BJT
When: 09 Aug 13 18:07
lol.  Relevance?
By:
Darlo Bantam
When: 09 Aug 13 18:07

Aug 9, 2013 -- 6:06PM, sideshowbob wrote:


i do lay the draw. i never said that i didnt?The Draw     3.3     £2.13     £4.90    3.3     £2.91     £6.69    3.3     £322.79     £742.42    3.3     £541.74     £1,246.00    4.5     £12.56     £43.96    4.6     £10.00     £36.00    4.6     £10.00     £36.00    4.6     £12.88     £46.37    4.6     £141.51     £509.44    4.6     £185.61     £668.20    4.6     £200.00     £720.00    7.6     £16.52     £109.03    7.6     £19.48     £128.57    7.6     £44.00     £290.40


When I said "you", I wasn't referring to you in particularly. Generally.

By:
kruger76
When: 09 Aug 13 18:09
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