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steview84 When: 01 Aug 13 13:07

to be fair we're now 2/2 on howlers.

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vin2385 When: 01 Aug 13 13:07

Sky talking womens cricket. Ties in with the Aussies performance so far in the series imo.

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johnnyrant When: 01 Aug 13 13:07

Prove what you said is true...

It's what happens when one team is in the ascendency. If you watch some of the footage of old Ashes tests between 89-2003 there were some proper howlers. I do not have them all written down though I've watched every Ashes test between Eng & Oz going back to the 70s & know what I've seen over the years.

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d13phe When: 01 Aug 13 13:07

looked pretty out to me on the lbw beforehand

just bad umpiring on the field.

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BJT When: 01 Aug 13 13:07

Aug 1, 2013 -- 1:06PM, cardshark wrote:

My point is that initially the review system seemed to work really well but now we are getting more and more wrong decisions both ways even with all of the technology available. Hotspot which is pretty reliable was turned off for a previous decision and now the umps seem to have lost faith in it. Snicko seems really accurate but they don't use it, audio can be misleading but they use it? It might be time to scrap the lot and revert back to the on-field umpire.

This is the start of the 3rd test. So far in this series, there has been more wrong decisions than I have EVER seen.

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THERE....IS....NO....SPOOOOON When: 01 Aug 13 13:07

MaggotBreath

I think that there was a faint mark on hotspot, but more to the point, there were two clear noises. Shane Warne is deaf, as is Botham.

I think that the 3rd Ump arrived at the correct decision.

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BJT When: 01 Aug 13 13:08

Aug 1, 2013 -- 1:07PM, johnnyrant wrote:

Prove what you said is true... It's what happens when one team is in the ascendency. If you watch some of the footage of old Ashes tests between 89-2003 there were some proper howlers. I do not have them all written down though I've watched every Ashes test between Eng & Oz going back to the 70s & know what I've seen over the years.

DRS was in play then? Holy siht am I stupid.

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therhino When: 01 Aug 13 13:08

Conclusive argument johnny. Impossible to oppose that. Well done buddy.

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johnnyrant When: 01 Aug 13 13:09

^^^ thanks

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FredRescue When: 01 Aug 13 13:09

LOL @ Johnny

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Scuttler When: 01 Aug 13 13:09

Stop whingeing Aussies and play the game.

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superam When: 01 Aug 13 13:09

Rhino lol nice one, I have form on Ashes no play days so I wouldn't be surprised tbh

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vin2385 When: 01 Aug 13 13:09

Has the word seething appeared lately.

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therhino When: 01 Aug 13 13:10

I am fecking SEEEEEEEEEEEEEETTTTTTTTTTTTTTHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIINNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGG

enjoy that.

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vin2385 When: 01 Aug 13 13:10

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songsforthedeaf When: 01 Aug 13 13:11

Aug 1, 2013 -- 1:01PM, Olde Nick wrote:

Clearly umpires don't understand what they are doing. Noise was clearly bat hitting pad long before ball passed by (an inch away from the bat). Can understand being given out in realtime by umpire hearing noise but third umpire is clueless. DRS was brought in exactly for these situations but needs third umpire to understand how all the different angles and noise comes together. I am big England fan but this makes the sport just look stupid and gives ammunition to all the luddites who don't want progress and innovation to make the game fairer. Very sad to see the system undermined like this....

It was undermined because the TV audio was misleading, and they dont use a proper audio sensor (snicko)...even the inventor of hotspot agrees that snicko should be included.

The umpires also clearly need better training to use the technology.

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thefavourite When: 01 Aug 13 13:11

who ever said this got it spot on.

Snicko - Negative Hotspot - Negative. Visual - Negative Payment to 3rd Umpire - Positive

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THERE....IS....NO....SPOOOOON When: 01 Aug 13 13:11

Johnny Turdbreath

Eng had no end of terrible decisions during Oz's reign.

Referring to selectors and shot selection

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BJT When: 01 Aug 13 13:11

Without thinking about where anybody is from, or who anybody is going for. Do you all seriously think, that is good for the game of cricket?
Who seriously thinks that firstly should have been given out, and secondly, shouldn't have been overturned?

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mccarthy007 When: 01 Aug 13 13:12

do we still see a draw here guys????

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therhino When: 01 Aug 13 13:12

Ahhh Spoon, never fail to put a smile on my face with your quick wit.

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BJT When: 01 Aug 13 13:12

Aug 1, 2013 -- 1:12PM, mccarthy007 wrote:

do we still see a draw here guys????

Do any of us seriously give a ****? Draw? Results like that mean that no umpire in the game is backing a draw. There in lies your answer....

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Wildone When: 01 Aug 13 13:13

In the UK can punters/traders launch a class action against the apparent third umpire decision made in error??

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Scuttler When: 01 Aug 13 13:13

Laura Marsh would get a few of these Aussie left-handers out with her off-breaks. Probably be more dangerous than Agar or Lyon.

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songsforthedeaf When: 01 Aug 13 13:13

Cant really see aussies winning, if you ask me to bet match odds, i lay aussies. Even if we are trouble, bell can grind out a draw. But i bet on innings runs

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viva el presidente! When: 01 Aug 13 13:13

^BJT's job application for the voice of reason position.

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vin2385 When: 01 Aug 13 13:13

Aug 1, 2013 -- 1:13PM, Scuttler wrote:

Laura Marsh would get a few of these Aussie left-handers out with her off-breaks. Probably be more dangerous than Agar or Lyon.

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cardshark When: 01 Aug 13 13:14

I don't see a draw - I see a hat-ful for Swann. I think the Aus spinners will get a few as well - already look's to be turning big.

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songsforthedeaf When: 01 Aug 13 13:14

Aug 1, 2013 -- 1:13PM, Wildone wrote:

In the UK can punters/traders launch a class action against the apparent third umpire decision made in error??

I benefitted from the decision, but I know how it feels to be on the end of a bad one. Thats betting I suppose.

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vin2385 When: 01 Aug 13 13:14

swings and roundabouts

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THERE....IS....NO....SPOOOOON When: 01 Aug 13 13:15

Who seriously thinks that firstly should have been given out, and secondly, shouldn't have been overturned?

Mensa members please line up in an orderly fashion, list your name along with disability and/or psychiatric affliction,

below.

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BJT When: 01 Aug 13 13:15

Aug 1, 2013 -- 1:14PM, songsforthedeaf wrote:

Aug 1, 2013 -- 1:13PM, Wildone wrote:In the UK can punters/traders launch a class action against the apparent third umpire decision made in error??I benefitted from the decision, but I know how it feels to be on the end of a bad one. Thats betting I suppose.

A bad one? Seriously? There is no argument in the world to show any reason ever how that decision was even made. There is 1 person in the world that reviewed that and gave it out.

Tell me I am wrong..

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Wildone When: 01 Aug 13 13:15

Do you think turnover will drop on the match due to the umpire decision and any suspicion of corruption?

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Steam When: 01 Aug 13 13:15

Dont get it viva how this is a better system. More wrong decisions ever than i have seen in a high profile series. If all you need is to disprove the on field umpire then you rather not have the DRS and trust the umpire. You still would have got the same decisions. Why spend that money on that stupid piece of equipment when you can hire some better umpires for that. Only one to benefit from this non sense is Swann who now gets more wickets than ever before because umpires give those marginal LBWs easily out because of the DRS hawk eye.

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songsforthedeaf When: 01 Aug 13 13:16

Aug 1, 2013 -- 1:15PM, BJT wrote:

Aug 1, 2013 -- 1:14PM, songsforthedeaf wrote:Aug 1, 2013 -- 1:13PM, Wildone wrote:In the UK can punters/traders launch a class action against the apparent third umpire decision made in error??I benefitted from the decision, but I know how it feels to be on the end of a bad one. Thats betting I suppose.A bad one? Seriously? There is no argument in the world to show any reason ever how that decision was even made. There is 1 person in the world that reviewed that and gave it out. Tell me I am wrong..

Seethe in progress What can you do BJT? Go spunk a few hundred on Betfair Casino in anger.

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tsango When: 01 Aug 13 13:16

if given out caught, they should have drs overturned only if ball is over 10cm away from the bat. if given out lbw, it should only be overturned if it's over 10cm away from hitting the wicket.

there, that should improve the stats that the on field umpires gets most of the decisions correct

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Hushwing. When: 01 Aug 13 13:17

Aussies really have suffered the worst luck i've seen in a series so far. They finally won a toss and can't lose this match but weather might spoil their winning chance

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THERE....IS....NO....SPOOOOON When: 01 Aug 13 13:17

NO HOT-SPOT didn't save Agar? last test............ so what's new here?

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DirkDiggler When: 01 Aug 13 13:18

I don't see a draw - I see a hat-ful for Swann.

>>>Yes, turn and bounce for Swann already.

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BJT When: 01 Aug 13 13:18

Aug 1, 2013 -- 1:15PM, Wildone wrote:

Do you think turnover will drop on the match due to the umpire decision and any suspicion of corruption?

100% guarantee it.

To what extent, not sure.

Personally though, I am going to try and get a green up and fcuk off. Cricket can kiss my ass. Bet like a machine and constantly be shat on? Fcuk that, plenty of other options to bet on.

Aus will come back here, draw will come back into 2.70, and then eat my ass everybody.

Cricket has lost a fan. Betfair has lost a cricket bettor. Some you can take, but 3 test matches in a row? Get fcuked.....