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By:
donny osmond
When: 01 Aug 13 12:56
seems a bit obvious, but umpire gave him out, if there is no drs then hes still out


i agree that some specialist video review persons be installed to make drs truely worthwhile
By:
BJT
When: 01 Aug 13 12:56
Surely ACB need to take these gooses to court
By:
thefavourite
When: 01 Aug 13 12:57
if you tried to give that decision out, their is literally nothing you could argue. 0%
it was 100% out.

i hate to say it but if this was the sub continent we would be calling cheats, and this reeks of it.

leaves a sour taste in the mouth. dont want to watch anymore if this is what cricket has become.
By:
cardshark
When: 01 Aug 13 12:57
All this adds a lot of weight to the Indian argument for no reviews. The most accurate tool - snicko isn't used for some reason. The umpires are now getting confused on what to overturn. Complete shambles. I'm a big fan of the review system but it has to be used correctly.
By:
kingmax
When: 01 Aug 13 12:57
it was the same in the NZ test, pissing down and the umpires make them play.. ****g disgusting
By:
kingmax
When: 01 Aug 13 12:57
it was 100% out.

are you a ****g moron
By:
judorick
When: 01 Aug 13 12:57
umpiring both on and off field has left much to be desired in the series
By:
GoBallistic
When: 01 Aug 13 12:57
There were two noises but the second was when the ball was a yard past the bat
By:
johnnyrant
When: 01 Aug 13 12:57
Eng had no end of terrible decisions during Oz's reign.
By:
songsforthedeaf
When: 01 Aug 13 12:58

Aug 1, 2013 -- 12:56PM, BJT wrote:


Aug  1, 2013 -- 12:54PM, songsforthedeaf wrote:If you involve snicko, most of these bad decisions go away.Didn't need snicko for that to be overturned.  Shouldn't have been given out in the first place.  If the dimwit umpire doesn't know the difference between bat hitting pad and ball then the game has no hope.


Are you suggesting we can eliminate errors buy...what exactly? Abusing umpires when they get it wrong? Human error is never, ever going to go away. Technology applied correctly should get all but the closest decisions correct.

By:
bobojon
When: 01 Aug 13 12:58
ump shouldnt need to worry about reviews next game. Third grade games dont normally have drs
By:
BJT
When: 01 Aug 13 12:58

Aug 1, 2013 -- 12:57PM, johnnyrant wrote:


Eng had no end of terrible decisions during Oz's reign.


Good call dickhead...

By:
viva el presidente!
When: 01 Aug 13 12:58
cardshark 01 Aug 13 12:57 Joined: 02 Apr 11 | Topic/replies: 3,146 | Blogger: cardshark's blog
All this adds a lot of weight to the Indian argument for no reviews.

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how? the umpire gave it out.
By:
Gud-piggy
When: 01 Aug 13 12:58

Aug 1, 2013 -- 12:45PM, mccarthy007 wrote:


I just looked at the weather, it doesn't look too bad, some minor showers and thats it, so unsure why everyone thinks its gonna rain rain rain...or am I wrong??


Day 5 prediction is rain all day, but you know its only a prediction, so cant rely much on it. Crazy

By:
vin2385
When: 01 Aug 13 12:59
BJT's jovial mood seems to have disappearedLaugh
By:
cricnut
When: 01 Aug 13 12:59
I reckoned there was a faint nick and the difference between the noise on bat hitting the pad and bat hitting the ball is different, however snicko didn't pick up anything, so it should be not out,
By:
Java
When: 01 Aug 13 12:59
"The umpires are now getting confused on what to overturn"

The problem isn't the technology, it is the fact that the umpires are incompetent and don't understand their role in the review process.
By:
BJT
When: 01 Aug 13 12:59
Why no appeal there?  Closer than the last one...

England should have seen that and withdrawn the appeal.....  They saw exactly what happened on the big screen.  To keep that appeal active when they knew the result, is pure fcuking rort.
By:
pokeron
When: 01 Aug 13 12:59
dharmesena is bent as feck.
dar bent as feck.

what's amazing is they can get away with this rort.
totally speechless. more so than the aleem dar/stuart broad spot fix.
By:
johnnyrant
When: 01 Aug 13 12:59
name calling - well done BJT. High quality posts from you as always.
By:
BJT
When: 01 Aug 13 13:00

Aug 1, 2013 -- 12:59PM, johnnyrant wrote:


name calling - well done BJT. High quality posts from you as always.


How was your post worthwhile?

Prove what you said is true...

By:
thefavourite
When: 01 Aug 13 13:00
100% not out.

no way you could even argue it was out, all 3 signs pointed to 100% not out


*mis typed above
By:
FtseWtse
When: 01 Aug 13 13:01
Snicko - Negative          Hotspot - Negative.    Visual - Negative     Payment to 3rd Umpire - Positive
By:
steview84
When: 01 Aug 13 13:01
i think we should let khawaja bat on, unfortunately there is no way to do that.  absolutely shocking decision that i am quite frankly embarrassed by, and i have large reds on aussies and the draw.
By:
Olde Nick
When: 01 Aug 13 13:01
Clearly umpires don't understand what they are doing.  Noise was clearly bat hitting pad long before ball passed by (an inch away from the bat).   Can understand being given out in realtime by umpire hearing noise but third umpire is clueless.   DRS was brought in exactly for these situations but needs third umpire to understand how all the different angles and noise comes together.   I am big England fan but this makes the sport just look stupid and gives ammunition to all the luddites who don't want progress and innovation to make the game fairer.   Very sad to see the system undermined like this.... Scared
By:
cricnut
When: 01 Aug 13 13:01
Umpires will allways try to agree, with their colleagues, hence the out decision, but it was a not out
By:
vin2385
When: 01 Aug 13 13:02
Bring back Dickie Bird imo
By:
superam
When: 01 Aug 13 13:02
Woo betired if we win this test, it will all be 'but you only won because they incorrectly gave our Pakistani out' it aint fair boo hoo and we all know who the main bleater will be don't we Laugh
By:
Steam
When: 01 Aug 13 13:03
The whole argument of DRS was to take away the howlers and in the 3 test matches we have had, Agar, Broad, Trott and now Khwaja howler. Dont understand why you need it .
By:
pokeron
When: 01 Aug 13 13:03
i am really gutted for the sport.....
By:
Scuttler
When: 01 Aug 13 13:03
I saw a second shooter. Sorry, heard a second noise.
By:
BJT
When: 01 Aug 13 13:03
Tell you what, anybody that questions Australians heart is ridiculous.  For the Australian captain to cop it in the ass from these 3rd umpire fcukwits for 2 tests, and sit there and watch that, and then walk out to try and bat to still play the match out, needs a fcuking medal.

I certainly wouldn't.  I would have taken the team to the pub in protest guaranteed....
By:
Steam
When: 01 Aug 13 13:04
India allowed Bell to bat through after the howler..obviously England doesnt have that courage to do that
By:
vin2385
When: 01 Aug 13 13:04
it was only Kwoala ffs. With a test average of 4 he wont be a loss to the test. Trust me
By:
tonyagana
When: 01 Aug 13 13:04
Well, well, well. When will the Aussies stop wasting these reviews.
By:
Steam
When: 01 Aug 13 13:05
There was a second noise and even snicko showed that but by then the bat was miles away from the ball so that should be ignored
By:
therhino
When: 01 Aug 13 13:05
Hey superam, how are you my good friend. I hope it p1sses down all day long on Saturday in Manchester.
By:
mccarthy007
When: 01 Aug 13 13:05
draw is looking risky bet now !
By:
cardshark
When: 01 Aug 13 13:06
My point is that initially the review system seemed to work really well but now we are getting more and more wrong decisions both ways even with all of the technology available. Hotspot which is pretty reliable was turned off for a previous decision and now the umps seem to have lost faith in it. Snicko seems really accurate but they don't use it, audio can be misleading but they use it? It might be time to scrap the lot and revert back to the on-field umpire.
By:
viva el presidente!
When: 01 Aug 13 13:06
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The whole argument of DRS was to take away the howlers and in the 3 test matches we have had, Agar, Broad, Trott and now Khwaja howler. Dont understand why you need it .

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because of the howlers.

if that had been given not out, DRS would almost certainly have upheld that too. people seem to be arguing for quicker howlers, rather than a better system.
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