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By:
Lix
When: 08 Jun 12 11:50
not totally true. day 5 ticket sales are rarely sold in advance. they'd rather have 5 thousand people paying a tenner on the door and more on food and drink on day 5 than not.
By:
STEPTOES YARD
When: 08 Jun 12 11:51
no way will ECB be getting involved in making team decisions on reducing game

will be 100% with captains and coaches
By:
berto77
When: 08 Jun 12 11:58
That's true Lix, but as I said final day sales at Lords were risible given an exciting final day, good weather and a tenner a ticket.

A few thousand at a tenner won't do much to save a test financially struggling anyway.  Of course it's better than nothing, but not enough for administrators to influence the captains in any way.
By:
Lix
When: 08 Jun 12 11:58
time to back eng at 8/1 to win a 3 day game anyway. here's the blueprint..

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/shared/fds/hi/statistics/cricket/scorecards/2007/6/13741/html/scorecard.stm

Game done and dusted in under 300 overs. Cool
By:
nigelpm1
When: 08 Jun 12 12:01
only going to be around 250 overs though
By:
berto77
When: 08 Jun 12 12:01
Yes, but don't need England to win, just to be in a position to win to be quids in.
By:
Lix
When: 08 Jun 12 12:02
will take my chances at 8/1 Happy
By:
nigelpm1
When: 08 Jun 12 12:02
agreed.  Like I said will be laying draw later on.  Should get down to 1.12 ish I reckon. with Eng at 9's by then.
By:
tonyf
When: 08 Jun 12 12:04
just backed England at 8/1, great odds imo. Excellent chance to trade play starts.
By:
Fashion Fever
When: 08 Jun 12 12:05
so the draw is 1.16 and no one actually thinks it will be a draw then ?
By:
Lix
When: 08 Jun 12 12:06
windies are 50/3 or worse in EVERY SINGLE GAME THEY EVER FKIN PLAY. I see no reason why they wont be when they're batting in this. then we make a decision on whether we wanna take on Chanders and Samuels and co.
By:
nigelpm1
When: 08 Jun 12 12:06
It's bound to move out later on.  I think it's premature to be backing here TBH with no further play likely.
By:
tonyf
When: 08 Jun 12 12:07
If Chanders is out then will move in on its own. Won't drift much further, might get 9/1 if you're lucky
By:
kingmax
When: 08 Jun 12 12:07
10s on england by tomorrow morning
By:
kingmax
When: 08 Jun 12 12:08
the channders news has already hit the market..
By:
Lix
When: 08 Jun 12 12:09
is he out then max?
By:
kingmax
When: 08 Jun 12 12:09
i dont know for sure... but it was on cricinfo yesterday and at the same time england went from 5.5 > 4.2
By:
nigelpm1
When: 08 Jun 12 12:11
we'll see.  A full day of no play moved the draw yesterday - see no reason why it won't again.
By:
nigelpm1
When: 08 Jun 12 12:12
Draw market here has been very slow since it opened ;-)  IMHO, because WI are rated so poorly
By:
Lix
When: 08 Jun 12 12:16
wont get bigger than 10.0s i agree Tony. shall be topping up if so. windies are rubbish and dont give a f uck about this test. eng will be all over em.

Follow on will be -100 if today is washed out. Even if Eng bat 1st we could get a result.

Eng 370 in 100 overs
WI  240 AO in 70 overs
WI  200 AO in 65 overs
Eng knock off 70 runs in 15 overs

Total 250 overs. not a 10s shot imo on this ground. Edge is usually an action packed test venue, you tend to get lots of wkts and v quick runs here. E.g. Eng made 400 in a day vs Aus in 2005
By:
kingmax
When: 08 Jun 12 12:16
draw drifting..
By:
nigelpm1
When: 08 Jun 12 12:18
that's not unreasonable at all Lix but so much needs to go right for that to happen 8/1 shot - feels just about right.
By:
tonyf
When: 08 Jun 12 12:18
For me, WI could easily be allout for 100. They HATE cold wet weather and play like a team keen to get indoors. At 8/1 England are Great value.
By:
nigelpm1
When: 08 Jun 12 12:19
I can see WI going for 80-90 overs easily but not 70 and 65 in the same game
By:
nigelpm1
When: 08 Jun 12 12:19
particuarly without Anderson
By:
d13phe
When: 08 Jun 12 12:19
the other scenario is

WI 150 AO
Eng 350
WI 200 AO

more likely scenario imo and would only take about 200-230 overs
By:
Lix
When: 08 Jun 12 12:20
what are the prices when windies are batting and are 50/3 or worse?  they are ALWAYS 50/3 or worse! less than 8/1 i reckon.
By:
nigelpm1
When: 08 Jun 12 12:22
Windies will really want a draw as well for pride - I would factor that in.  My view is anything under 230 overs - no chance of result.  260+ overs and it will start getting interesting
By:
Lix
When: 08 Jun 12 12:23
At Lords we had a flat pitch and cloud cover (was fairly warm) ... WI skittled 1st inns.

At TB we had a flat pitch and glorious sunshine. WI skittled 2nd inns.

At Edge we should have cloud cover + cold temps and hopefully a juicier pitch. two windies collapses fairly likely imo.
By:
d13phe
When: 08 Jun 12 12:24
yes i have a feeling it could be carnage if england win the toss and bowl tomorrow
By:
kingmax
When: 08 Jun 12 12:25
1.19 is to high..
By:
nigelpm1
When: 08 Jun 12 12:27
It will definitely be fun to watch that's for sure - but seems like too much hope here.
By:
nigelpm1
When: 08 Jun 12 12:28
Also, surely Eng will want to bat first to ensure the follow on?
By:
nigelpm1
When: 08 Jun 12 12:29
WI might be tempted to put ENG in as well
By:
Lix
When: 08 Jun 12 12:29
eng bowling 1st if we win the toss is a 1.1 shot imo.
By:
kingmax
When: 08 Jun 12 12:30
1.2
By:
kingmax
When: 08 Jun 12 12:30
is there gonna be play today or something?
By:
nigelpm1
When: 08 Jun 12 12:31
maybe after 5pm?
By:
Lix
When: 08 Jun 12 12:31
doubt it. might have stopped raining for a bit tho.
By:
nigelpm1
When: 08 Jun 12 12:31
let's hope so.  I really want to back the draw higher up
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