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By:
nigelpm1
When: 08 Jun 12 21:48
Hi Guys,

Happy to give a brief description of where I'm at.

Have had a BF account since 2002 and have made minimal money over the year just backing the odd event here.

My main interest is the stockmarket and that's where I've concentrated but about 5 months ago I got actively into value betting as aside line i.e. trying to get an edge - so far I've been pretty successful BUT have been banned at most of the bookies through arbitrage which is a pain but hardly surprising.

Basically only stumbled upon this forum about two months ago and since there's a lot of good knowledge on here I felt it worth throwing in my two pennarth as well.  I always find with web based forum I get much more out by posting myself.

In fairness I've had some good calls on this market BUT let's be honest it could have gone another way and the weather could have improved but then it's about taking the prices when the odds are in your favour. 

Back to this market, I note we are back at 1.2 which does seems silly given bookies down at 1.1.
By:
kingmax
When: 08 Jun 12 21:56
by 1pm tomorrow the draw will be eves or 1.01
By:
Lix
When: 08 Jun 12 21:56
bookies have taken a hammering on the draw nigel. they dont want to take any more hence 1.1

TRue odds on eng winning this with 270+ overs in the game are about 2/1 i think. Windies are sh1t lets not
forget.
By:
kingmax
When: 08 Jun 12 21:58
but will we get 270 overs?
By:
nigelpm1
When: 08 Jun 12 21:59
Lix - is that a guess or from a source?  It might be true but I also imagine they took **A LOT** of money on England in advance and on England to win the series 3-0
By:
kingmax
When: 08 Jun 12 22:03
tomorrow clear sunday 80% chance of rain .. Laugh
By:
nigelpm1
When: 08 Jun 12 22:05
Radar now showing Saturday and Sunday No rain but Monday rain from 2pm.  Equates to about 260 odd overs and probably explains the draw moving out slightly.
By:
kingmax
When: 08 Jun 12 22:06
draw layed need england to win toss and put WI in.
By:
mafeking
When: 08 Jun 12 22:07
not likely we get 3 full days though. bound to be some sort of significant interruption on sunday or monday
By:
nigelpm1
When: 08 Jun 12 22:12
what are ENG likely to do - that's the question - probably bat to ensure the follow on I'd say
By:
mafeking
When: 08 Jun 12 22:17
whoever wins the toss will bowl. bound to be moisture around after 2 days under covers.

if england bat first a real long shot of winning. something like 400 in 120 overs required then bowl out windies in 70 and 50 if the weather allows
By:
nigelpm1
When: 08 Jun 12 22:18
In that scenario Windies at 36 must be worth a few quid for fun one would think then?
By:
nigelpm1
When: 08 Jun 12 22:36
should add - not for me though.  Great arb just then between Will Hills (8) and BF (7) on England
By:
kingmax
When: 08 Jun 12 22:36
1.3 by morning on the draw i think..
By:
nigelpm1
When: 08 Jun 12 22:39
no way.  more likely to be 1.15.  However, might start moving around 10:30 if play ready to go - anyone heard anything on state of outfield?
By:
kingmax
When: 08 Jun 12 22:41
nige, 1.15? it was 1.15 this morning and it is drifting why would it come in again if we are about to get a full days play?
By:
nigelpm1
When: 08 Jun 12 22:41
Because people will start arb'ing the bookies like I just posted and the exchange price for ENG will move back out to 7.5/8.
By:
nigelpm1
When: 08 Jun 12 22:42
If a few wickets go in the first session then it'll start moving heavily upward.
By:
nigelpm1
When: 08 Jun 12 23:06
Looks like CP is ok to play as well which could make the difference :

http://www.dailypost.co.uk/sport-news/cricket/2012/06/09/second-day-washed-out-at-edgbaston-for-england-v-west-indies-cricket-55578-31144826/

Chanderpaul had a scan on Thursday, and a slight side strain rather than a tear has been diagnosed.
By:
Lix
When: 08 Jun 12 23:09
love how you call him CP like those are his initials! Laugh
By:
nigelpm1
When: 08 Jun 12 23:14
Yeah, SC just too easy Laugh
By:
nigelpm1
When: 08 Jun 12 23:45
Might as well be free money on the exchange currently - whether play will take place tomorrow - 1.03 - sure someone here will take it.  I've grabbed some of it.
By:
aston
When: 08 Jun 12 23:53
Im hopeing england bat first as ive backed the draw and sold 4 strugleing windies batsmen series runs with sporting index so if england bat 100 overs windies only bat once unless they are shot out for low score which is also good for my spread bets.  For what its worth its currently raining here in Kettering Northants
By:
aljohnson
When: 09 Jun 12 00:03
Thank's for the biog. Nigel. I was just curious re the number of posts and you being a member for so long.
You certainly have given some useful info on this thread. The majority of posters on the Cricket forum are good eggs. I don't post that often but I am an avid reader of it.
By:
aljohnson
When: 09 Jun 12 00:10
aston
The weather is coming from the west, so I don't think that the rain in Kettering will be affecting the match.
By:
aljohnson
When: 09 Jun 12 00:46
Forecast changed again for Sunday on met office site. rain from 10am right through.
By:
Guernsey Sunbed
When: 09 Jun 12 05:59
Morning everyone,

On the face of it we could still get a match which allows a min of 294 overs but with the forecast for Sunday looking bleak I think that even getting 240 overs in this match is a big ask.

Unless either side has a double batting collapse, or there is an ultra brave declaration,  there is just not enough time left in the match for a result.

The current draw odds of .16 look really good value at this present time.

GL to all
By:
Lix
When: 09 Jun 12 06:11
morning.

Been clear in Brum for several hrs now. we should start on time if no more rain this morning. looks to be some light stuff headed there on the radar now tho around 8am Sad hopefully it'll fizzle out
By:
Lix
When: 09 Jun 12 07:27
pah, ignore the radar, its not taking the welsh hills into effect. the rain clouds are being held there.
By:
tonyf
When: 09 Jun 12 07:50
Not everyone is bothered about an arb for a few quid, Nige
By:
tonyf
When: 09 Jun 12 07:52
Good to see our tip on England is going well Lix, I will trade out some at 6.0
By:
PLEASE TELL THE TRUTH
When: 09 Jun 12 08:00
expected a clear day today Shocked
showers 10.30 onwards for a while Confused
By:
Lix
When: 09 Jun 12 08:06
looks clear to me PTTT. All about how squelchy the outfield is.
By:
Lix
When: 09 Jun 12 08:22
covers off. looking good for an 11am start. Grin
By:
PLEASE TELL THE TRUTH
When: 09 Jun 12 08:27
hope so - outfield should be fine as they worked all night
By:
nigelpm1
When: 09 Jun 12 09:07
tonyf - I'll take arbs everyday!  Free money I never ever sniff at!

Should be play all day today.  Monday is the problem now looks poor most of the day.

Nice to see the odds moving out.  A couple of early wickets and I imagine panic will set in even though there just isn't enough time for a result.
By:
Lix
When: 09 Jun 12 09:15
there's plenty of time for a result if windies are batting 1st. AO in 60 odd overs sets things up nicely. monday isnt too bad imo
By:
tiny dave
When: 09 Jun 12 09:16
Just to confirm sunny near brum as expected

Now may seem daft question: it's gale force winds here, would this disrupt the game at all? Bound to make catches harder
By:
Lix
When: 09 Jun 12 09:21
how cold is it? t shirt weather or jumpers needed?
By:
nigelpm1
When: 09 Jun 12 09:21
25% return for a series of unlikely events happening:

Two batting collapses by same team.
Minimal further rain disruptions (Monday looks like rain all day per most forecasts now)
Managing to get through >90 overs in the day

Not impossible at all but probably a 10% chance of this happening.

Great risk:reward for my money.
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