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the nugget 23 Aug 11 18:52
Lix has made a good point. Be wary of Lou Vincent in the chase Plain |
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Lix 23 Aug 11 20:21
Vincent keeping to the script so far |
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RAINGOD 23 Aug 11 17:03
match fixed delhi bookmakers good luck guys |
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The ECB employ two ex coppers FULL TIME to look at this stuff.
Wonder if they read this thread. The other matcvh being looked at is Sussex v Lancs which I don't recall. Surrey v Sussex at Whitgift was dodgey. There are a few cricketers very frightened what Vincent might say in the coming days... |
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Lou Vincent and Naved Arif of Sussex charged with match fixing in the Sussex vs Kent matched
http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/cricket/27526347 |
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Pathetic. The ECB charge two non-Englishmen/non-Irishmen, and even then wait until they're no longer playing to do so.
screaming from beneaththewaves 23 Aug 11 22:08 Joined: 30 Jan 05 | Topic/replies: 6,820 | Blogger: screaming from beneaththewaves's blog Scooped and caught at long on All out Sad Only Parnell, Nash and Monty look 100% clean here. Leather jackets for the rest of this vile Sussex XI. |
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it's amazing they're proceeding with this with only two names.
i think we all know that Superb Victory for Scottish Tennis Player(6, 7) is the only of some truly fabulous leather jackets. |
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*owner
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Agreed. He got out very softly against Kent and was captain at Whitgift when Nash was dropped down the order chasing 200+ in 20 overs..
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a little bit of credit to the ex-coppers, one of whom appeared to not let this go after the ICC's ACSU quickly saw nothing untoward in this match. Makes you wonder what they actually bothered to look at.
that lot are the real waste of space and deserve just as much opprobrium as those involved in the actual fixing. |
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If we're talking opprobrium and wastes of space, let us not forget Sussex CCC itself.
Sussex fixing approach confirmed 17 November 2012 Updated 12:34 Sussex have confirmed their players were approached to fix a Clydesdale Bank 40 match in 2011. The one-day game against Kent is mentioned in a newly published book about corruption in cricket. Sussex say an internal investigation found no evidence of wrongdoing, and that they reported the approaches - and their findings - to the England and Wales Cricket Board. Kent beat Sussex by 14 runs in the game at Hove, which was televised live. A Sussex statement (external) read: "In conjunction with the ICC (International Cricket Council), a full investigation was undertaken with nothing untoward coming to light, and the club's prompt action receiving praise. "There have been no further reports made to the club concerning any Sussex matches. "As a club, we are committed to ensuring that the game's integrity is not breached at any time and we will continue to take a full and leading role in the ECB's endeavours to protect the game." http://m.bbc.co.uk/sport/cricket/20376425.app |
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Well we didn't let it go and fortunately some people in authority didn't either.
Sussex C.C. should be ashamed of their role in this, hopefully criminal charges will be laid and some more names will be flushed out. |
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http://cricketarchive.com/Archive/Scorecards/316/316230.html
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^^^ scorecard from the game at whitgift school, i remember it as i backed sussex that day. Sorry if this has already been done but look at vincents run rate and parnell batting ahead of nash and goodwin?????????
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8 people viwing none replying? surely someone remembers it? can see that card looks fishy?
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That game has been discussed again and again on this thread.
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Sorry pal, knew it was discussed, just wasnt sure a scorecard link was put up
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@ RichardLL: Essex CCC should be ashamed of itself following its lack of transparency in the Westfield/Kaneria spotfixing, but it's not. That only came to light because of Tony Pallodino blowing the whistle, which was followed by Essex CCC sacking him.
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'£12m was apparently bet on one website alone in relation to this Sussex against Kent match' - David Bond, BBC sports editor
Have just read this thread for the first time and it makes very interesting reading. If the forumites on here could see what was happening as it unfolded then why has it taken the authorities nearly 3 years to bring this to book? |
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Because Sussex CCC carried out a thorough investigation of Sussex CCC and found "no evidence of wrongdoing".
But then Lou Vincent retired from the game and for some reason told the authorities what he'd done. Unfortunately for the authorities his confession was leaked, so they had to do something, so they charged Vincent and the other player from the match who had retired from cricket. |
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isn't it bl00dy pathetic, well worse than pathetic, all the evidence needed to bring a prosecution is on the earlier parts of this thread and were either contemporaneous to the match between Sussex and Kent or posted slightly BEFORE the events occurred.
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i do not believe these were the only two sussex players who were at it and agree with the cryptic remarks above.
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Amazing read. Just got to provide this thread in court to get a guilty verdict.
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Vincent, who played 23 Tests and 102 one-day internationals and last appeared for New Zealand in 2007, told ICC investigators he began fixing in 2008 in the Twenty20 Indian Cricket League for a world-famous former international. We know the identity of the cricketer but cannot name him for legal reasons.
Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/cricket/article-2629678/How-Asian-bookies-fixed-county-cricket-Former-New-Zealand-batsman-Lou-Vincents-allegations-corruption-England-revealed.html#ixzz32cqfaCT9 Follow us: @MailOnline on Twitter | DailyMail on Facebook |
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any guesses on this "world famous former international" ?
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NO!
NO GUESSES. What part of "cannot name him for legal reasons" do you not understand? We do not want to give Betfair any excuse to delete this thread. |
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your right, I dont understand it, can you explain it to me in detail?
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Grant, a number of ex players have subsequently been found guilty of match/spot fixing. The ICL was riddled with corruption. Before that, there were famous international players implicated in match/spot fixing.
According to cricinfo, other players are being looked at in regard to 40 over county cricket. One would hope the two ex coppers employed by the ECB might contact Betfair and the many pro bettors who use this site to give their views of T20 as well..... |
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did you see or read about the sussex press conference during/before the middx match, expressing their dismay and outrage towards those should it be proven they were involved in match fixing while representing sussex.
perhaps they should also have expressed outrage towards those at the club and those in wider authority who conducted the sham inquiry which initially found no wrong-doing in contradiction to the evidence on here, in the betting patterns and in the developments on the pitch and also with one other sussex player apparently going ballistic in the dressing-room afterwards suggesting a fix had happened. |
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Coach Mark Robinson: "This isn't a Sussex thing, this is world cricket ..."
http://www.espncricinfo.com/county-cricket-2014/content/current/story/748213.html NO! This is a Sussex thing. For the sake of cricket stop continually trying to evade responsibility. If Sussex CCC's "investigation" had looked at the conduct of its players in that match and/or made use of cricket's Memorandum Of Understanding with Betfair, this affair could have been dealt with years ago. I'm sure Ed Joyce is "angry". People might now unfortunately look at his delicate chip to a Kent fielder, who spilled it, in a different light, particularly as he followed it up by feathering the ball straight to the keeper. |
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"Dave Brooks, who was the Sussex chief executive in 2011, has revealed that several players approached the club and Robinson with their concerns at the time, leading to the investigation, initially by the International Cricket Council’s anti-corruption and security unit. The Lancashire game was a quarter-final in the Twenty20 Cup, so defeat cost Sussex a place in the lucrative finals day, while victory against Kent would have secured their place in the semi-finals of the 40-over tournament."
This is what I think is deeply troubling, a number of Sussex players thought fixing had occurred yet the subsequent investigation found nothing. So what on earth was the quality of that investigation? Did it want to find anything? http://www.theguardian.com/sport/2014/may/27/sussex-match-fixing-claims-mark-robinson - and this is the link from where that quote is take. |
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and as much as i usually agree with Screamin', even defer to his more hands-on analysis of the integrity/gambling matters in cricket, i'd be totally shocked and horrified if ed joyce was one of the bad apples. there is one other who was very much suspected but i have a feeling those suspicions may be wrong as he's still playing.
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the MoU with the ecb was agreed late 2012 screaming
with ACSU, 2004  |
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So why didn't Sussex CCC contact the ACSU, if they genuinely didn't know what their players were getting up to, and wanted to find out?
Or read this thread, if they didn't know the ACSU's e-mail address? |
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ACSU=?
please remind me. |
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the ICC's anti corruption unit.
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The ICC's Anti-Corruption and Security Unit.
Unfortunately the ICC has no powers, unless its wishes coincide with those of the BCCI. The BCCI has no desire to tackle the corruption inherent to India, hence neither does the ACSU. |
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thanks guys - please can you now remind me who the BCCI are?
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personally i believe there should be a thorough investigation into how the original sussex investigation cleared everyone, that smacks of corrupt practice, especially now that it has emerged at least one sussex player was going beserk at the time in the dressing-room complaining of match-fixing.
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Happy Valley 29 May 14 07:33
thanks guys - please can you now remind me who the BCCI are? indian cricket board, the people who really run the game, despite the ICC's pretense that they do. When you have investigative bodies that are so closely tied to the organisations running the game (or in some cases are actually part of said organisations) there is often the problem that thorough investigations and uncovering of corruption, match fixing or doping, will damage the sport and it may be thought that it's not in the sporting bodies interest to pursue something that an independent body would. certainly this was the case in cycling regarding doping, and is, i would suspect, happening in tennis as well. As screaming has alluded to, it was probably all to easy for Sussex to want to not find anything. |