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I was very sure this was a fix very on in the match, as I posted on the 2nd or 3rd page here. Prices were ridiculous, for long periods of the game Sussex were a good 30 ticks too high |
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try again:
I was very sure this was a fix very on in the match, as I posted on the 2nd or 3rd page here. Prices were ridiculous, for long periods of the game Sussex were a good 30 ticks too high |
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Glamorgan on my corruption watch next season
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Does anyone know of a place I could find listed the County games broadcast live by Sky Sports in 2010 and 2011?
I went through a rough list I reconstructed last Winter and found Sussex had lost every single match, but I'd like to confirm this. Thanks. |
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ttt
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Never forget
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... just bringing the potential "fixed" games back to the top
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Mervyn Westfield’s conviction for spot-fixing in Essex’s CB40 game against Durham in 2010 brought the reality of corruption to the heart of English cricket. A 2011 game between Kent and Sussex remains the subject of a continuing investigation.
PUBLISHED: 22:10, 27 July 2013 http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/article-2380143/West-Indies-v-Pakistan-ODI-series-investigated-betting-corruption.html?ico=sport^headlines  Is this true? The authorities have not accepted the whitewash offered by Sussex CCC's "investigation"? How I would love to see the club nailed over this. |
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oh hello http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/cricket/article-2518446/Former-New-Zealand-cricketers-Chris-Cairns-Lou-Vincent-Daryl-Tuffey-investigated-ICC-match-fixing.html?ico=sport%5Eheadlines
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http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/cricket/10832310/Cricket-rocked-by-new-fixing-evidence-from-New-Zealands-former-batsman-Lou-Vincent.html |
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STEPTOES YARD 23 Aug 11 21:03
not often you see a side needing 85 off 108 with 6 in hand at 1.75 |
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Richard LL 23 Aug 11 21:01
Why all the big shots, they only need 5 an over? |
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cricketjon 23 Aug 11 21:47
Melissa emailed BBC Radio Kent re suspicious activity on a reputable betting exchnage my first thought was that cannot be betfairLaugh |
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bilbobaggins 23 Aug 11 20:34
Cannot believe the movement in the prices here - they are only consistent with one thing and that's if the result is known in advance. |
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peterpiperpicked 23 Aug 11 19:23
i am new to cricket and am really puzzled- can anyone explain to me why sussex are so long? I would heve expected 1.6- 1.7 at the mo |
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ScreamingBTW - did you ever get that list of televised matches and did Sussex lose them all?
Really hope now that Lou Vincent has been forced to go public, presumably to flush out others and get them to talk, that those involved in the Sussex v Kent match get their comeuppence. |
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Afraid not, Happy Valley. I just drifted back to betting mainly on horse racing again, as it's straighter
I still follow cricket, because I love the sport, and I still bet on outright markets and outright results, but ball-by-ball betting for a living? No thanks. In the last Mumbai Indians game, one Mumbai bowler was sending down one fantastically accurate, unplayable delivery after another. Suddenly a huge chunk caused the MI price to drift about 10 ticks. It then returned to its former level, yet the same thing happened again. The bowler's next ball was a full toss just outside off stump, which disappeared over the cover boundary. I can't make a living out of that. I'm sure somewhere out there on the net there's lists of Sky coverage for 2010 and 2011. If anyone could point me to them, I'm pretty sure it would confirm Sussex lost every one in which they appeared, despite having a very good and successful side at the time. |
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perhaps ed joyce shouldn't be proposing cronje-esque declarations to force a result when vincent is so ready to spill the beans.
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Vincent can spill all the beans he likes, but the money men would still prefer to look the other way:
A reorganisation of the anti-corruption unit was confirmed by the ICC last week after pressure from the three influential countries, England, Australia and India. Dave Richardson, the chief executive of the ICC, and representatives from the big three nations who now control the board will conduct the review. Suspicions it will then be watered down and report to the chairman of the board, N Srinivasan, who is the subject of a fixing scandal in India, have prompted widespread alarm within the game. http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/cricket/10832310/Cricket-rocked-by-new-fixing-evidence-from-New-Zealands-former-batsman-Lou-Vincent.html |
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Screaming - I managed to find links to the broadcast schedule of 2010 and 2011. They might be a bit slow to load:
. https://web.archive.org/web/20100217022701/http://www.ecb.co.uk/news/domestic/sky-sports-broadcast-schedule,1248,BP.html . https://web.archive.org/web/20110520153825/http://www.ecb.co.uk/news/domestic/sky-sports-broadcast-schedule,1248,BP.html |
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Really grateful, Gin. Got to go through the form for the racing now, but will check those links tonight.
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Hope one of them has the match/bit where Chris Nash mouths to Lou Vincent. "wtf are you doing"
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That was at Whitgift I think. Nash was pushed down the order despite Sussex needing 10+ an over from the start.
Parnell was sent in ahead of Nash and appeared to block. A wicket fell, Nash came in (at 6 or maybe 7.) He went straight up to Parnell and said what Blackbarn has quoted. He then hit 2 sixes of his first 5 balls but Sussex were already out of it. |
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so did Nash (Sussex born and bred) say that to Parnell or to vincent?
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Parnell. Nash was upset at his place in the batting order and then incredulous at Parnell's lack of intent.
Muzza was skipper.. |
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OK. I've looked at 2011, and it turns out I was wrong. Sussex did win 3 out of their 7 televised one-day matches, and a quick glance through 2010 shows something similar. I can only say that the surrenders to Kent and Surrey were so notorious, along with the T20 loss at home to Middx on 2 July 2010, that it just felt like they kept finding ways to get beaten when favourites. But I hold my hands up. I was wrong:
Clydesdale Bank 40 Sunday 24 April - Hampshire v Warwickshire Monday 25 April - Leicestershire v Scotland Sunday 1 May - Kent v Worcestershire Monday 2 May - Yorkshire v Derbyshire Friday 6 May - Glamorgan v Essex (d/n) Sunday 8 May - Somerset v Gloucestershire Sunday 15 May - Leicestershire v Warwickshire Tuesday 17 May - Middlesex v Worcestershire (d/n) Friday 20 May - Hampshire v Northants (d/n) Sunday 22 May - Lancashire v Nottinghamshire Wednesday 25 May - Nottinghamshire v Gloucestershire (d/n) Sunday 17 July - TBC Monday 18 July - Lancashire v Somerset (d/n) Tuesday 19 July - Hampshire v Durham (d/n) Wednesday 20 July - Essex v Glamorgan (d/n) Tuesday 26 July - Warwckshire v Hampshire (d/n) Wednesday 27 July - Sussex v Yorkshire (d/n) Sussex won by 76 runs Thursday 28 July - Middlesex v Derbyshire (d/n) Wednesday 3 August - Surrey v Northants (d/n) Thursday 4 August - Derbyshire v Worcestershire (d/n) Friday 5 August - Lancashire v Gloucestershire (d/n) Monday 15 August - Somerset v Nottinghamshire (d/n) Tuesday 16 August - Kent v Middlesex (d/n) Wednesday 17 August - Warwickshire v Surrey (d/n) Tuesday 23 August - Sussex v Kent (d/n) Kent won by 14 runs Wednesday 24 August - Gloucestershire v Somerset (d/n) Monday 29 August - TBC Sunday 4 September - Semi Finals (both) Saturday 17 September - Final Friends Life t20 Wednesday 1 June - Hampshire v Somerset (d/n) Thursday 2 June - Durham v Warwickshire Wednesday 8 June - Lancashire v Leicestershire Thursday 9 June - Northants v Durham Friday 10 June - Lancashire v Yorkshire Saturday 11 June - Nottinghamshire v Warwickshire Sunday 12 June - Yorkshire v Northants Monday 13 June - Surrey v Essex (d/n) Tuesday 14 June - Sussex v Somerset (d/n) Sussex won by 4 wickets Wednesday 15 June - Derbyshire v Worcestershire Tuesday 21 June - Glamorgan v Essex (d/n) Wednesday 22 June - Yorkshire v Derbyshire Thursday 23 June - Essex v Hampshire (d/n) Friday 24 June - Nottinghamshire v Leicestershire Sunday 26 June - Somerset v Glamorgan Monday 27 June - Hampshire v Sussex Hampshire won by 35 runs Wednesday 29 June - Leicestershire v Yorkshire Thursday 30 June - Hampshire v Kent (d/n) Saturday 2 July - Essex v Middlesex Monday 4 July - Surrey v Sussex (d/n) Surrey won by 18 runs Tuesday 5 July - Worcestershire v Nottinghamshire Thursday 7 July - Middlesex v Surrey (d/n) Friday 8 July - Kent v Sussex Sussex won by 15 runs Sunday 10 July - Gloucestershire v Glamorgan Monday 11 July - Warwickshire v Durham Tuesday 12 July - Northants v Lancashire Wednesday 13 July - TBC Thursday 14 July - TBC Friday 15 July - TBC Saturday 6 August - QF Double Header Sunday 7 August - QF Monday 8 August - QF - Sussex v Lancashire Lancashire won by 20 runs Saturday 27 August - Finals Day |
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did parnell leave summarily?
does anyone know why murray goodwin went to glamorgan? ha ha. |
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Parnell was certainly still around by August, as I saw him at in a 4-day game at Taunton getting annoyed by a Jos Buttler century. The closest his bowling got to the stumps was when he tried to kick them over at the umpire's end while the umpire was turning round watching the ball disappear into the River Tone.
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The single biggest threat to the integrity of sport is the speed at which fixing concerns are investigated.
Time and time again it is shown that the liquidity in exchange markets is no match for the greed of those in the know, to the extent that even a relatively inexperienced exchange user can detect when something is wrong. Those of us that have been around the block a few times can spot it a mile off. If there were representatives monitoring these situations, how would players react if during the game raising concerns, they were approached and informed that there would be a full investigation of the integrity of the current match after it had finished, e.g. the tournament organiser informing davydenko in sopot at the end of the second set, or a match official going into the sussex dressing room mid innings. |
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I think they'd just laugh and carry on once the match official had left. Spot-fixing seems to have become the norm since the three Pakistanis were jailed, since this case confirmed that the very worst thing that could happen, if you were the ringleader and caught red-handed on video and tried in one of the very few countries willing to prosecute, was seven months in HMP Canterbury.
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... Of course, that's if you deny all guilt in court, and only confess after release. If you claim to be a teenager and deny all guilt until confessing at the last possible moment, then it's just three months in a Young Offenders Institution and the bulk of your country's cricketing public demanding your return to the game as soon as possible.
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Well it is still going on in IPL7 despite what happened last season. So long as corporate and/or criminal types are behind the fixing then it wont be stopped anytime soon.
DStyle - while you are about I sent you a message yday. Did you pick it up ok? |
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sorry - i use the old forum. let me go and check.
i don't think they'd laugh and carry on at all. I think the moment you alerted them to the fact they an investigation had started and that their future actions in this match are now under scrutiny they'd think twice. as for butt, the sentence is perhaps not the most damaging aspect. He's wrecked his future. |
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The future is of little account when you can still retire to enjoy the spoils of the past.
Besides, players are in no position suddenly to pull out of a fixing deal halfway through a game. The consequences of p1ssing off the kind of people who organize fixed matches are surely more threatening than a warning from some man from the ECB. See Bruce Willis in Pulp Fiction for an example of the difficulties that lie ahead for sportsmen who change their minds about throwing a contest. |
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In a sign that fixing was endemic in the county game, Vincent was introduced to another bookie, known as NG, who was from Pakistan, by a fellow county cricketer.
They met in a hotel in Brighton on August 22, 2011, when NG brought up the match against Kent the next day. NG gave Vincent a gift of perfume. ‘Then the conversation got to the point . . . making money from it illegally.’ NG told Vincent that other players were involved and asked if he was interested. ‘Yes,’ replied Vincent. ‘It was a simple instruction, we would underperform and Sussex would lose.’ Vincent then told VG about the plan so he could ‘make double the money’. VG told him to approach a Sussex batsman and offer him £20,000 to be in on the fix. But the player rejected it. This time there was no precise plan. No ‘three-over segment’. ‘It was straightforward, we underperform, Sussex loses.’ Vincent did underperform. He was run out for one off seven balls as Sussex’s innings stagnated. Set 217 to win, Sussex were 76 for no wicket before the start of the 11th over. Just 22 balls later only seven runs had been added and they had lost four wickets. After the game, another team-mate Vincent approached was furious. ‘He knew the game was fixed. I just wanted to get out of there.’ Vincent told the ICC he received £40,000 to throw the game — £25,000 from NG and £15,000 from VG. Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/cricket/article-2629678/How-Asian-bookies-fixed-county-cricket-Former-New-Zealand-batsman-Lou-Vincents-allegations-corruption-England-revealed.html#ixzz31uFY37Yj |
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thanks for the links Screaming
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It beggars belief that the ECB's anti corruption unit is so unable to read matches with or without understanding betting patterns.
Their incompetence is staggering. |
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Injera. Agree absolutely. Who specifically in this anti-corruption unit has responsibility for the "team" that is responsible for the monitoring and interpretation of betting patterns on the games under investigation, and more importantly on games in general.
The problem is that, I bet there isn't even a "team", or even anyone specifically responsible.  |
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http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/cricket/27447452
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