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By:
politicspunter
When: 23 May 20 22:52

May 23, 2020 -- 10:48PM, 1st time poster wrote:


because they no we,re all lefties now,but they just can get there yet,


We are all lefties under the Boris socialist revolution.

By:
Ibrahima Sonko
When: 23 May 20 22:53
Love it when aaronh logs on, so wish mr eboue would come back on too.

What is a right winger, would you please describe it to me ? aaronh

The only version of right wing that i know is an opposition to libtards & commies. Which is centre left.
By:
aaronh
When: 23 May 20 22:55
Eboue was a centrist or lib at most
By:
jollyswagman
When: 23 May 20 22:56
libs are commies
By:
jollyswagman
When: 23 May 20 22:57
they want to eat your children then force them to change sex before becoming muslims
By:
Ibrahima Sonko
When: 23 May 20 22:58
A stark raving uni brainwashed idiot.

I knew him before uni and after, like watching a werewolf film.
By:
aaronh
When: 23 May 20 23:01

May 23, 2020 -- 10:56PM, jollyswagman wrote:


libs are commies


Grin

By:
Ibrahima Sonko
When: 23 May 20 23:01
Jolly if you a valid point or discussion to be had, then post it rather than silly posting.
By:
----you-have-to-laugh---
When: 23 May 20 23:22
shirley shares will go up due to rampant money printing

money under the matress might need a new home


when wetherspoons and dyson are nationalised it will be funny
By:
jollyswagman
When: 23 May 20 23:31
donny, can the usa get 90% unemployment and 90,000 dow? (obviously an exaggeration) it is complete madness the disconnect between the real world and the financial world. how long can that last?
By:
smirnoff2therescue
When: 23 May 20 23:44
Edwina been defending the in defence able for last 20 mins on 5 live and rightly getting a good kicking ShockedShockedLaughLaugh

ps the 3 words were meant that way to be printed Wink
By:
jollyswagman
When: 23 May 20 23:49
we are constantly being gaslighted so i wouldnt be surprised if the witnesses turned out to be stooges. maybe there is something really big happening that tptb dont want us to know is happening right now Scared
By:
jucel69
When: 24 May 20 03:30
Where are the photos? Even old biddies have camera phones nowadays
Surely there would have been a labour activist in place to take a few snaps and make a few quid
He's hardly an incognito sort of bloke is he?
By:
A_T
When: 24 May 20 08:02
If the story is false would be easy enough for Dom (or Pericles) to say so - but instead we get denials from anonymous briefings.
By:
jucel69
When: 24 May 20 08:34

May 24, 2020 -- 8:02AM, A_T wrote:


If the story is false would be easy enough for Dom (or Pericles) to say so - but instead we get denials from anonymous briefings.


He might have been having a threesome with Ferguson and that birdDevil

By:
geordie1956
When: 24 May 20 08:41
Tory MP Steve Baker: “Enough is enough. I and others saved him once before when he was driving Vote Leave to implosion. “Not today. Dominic Cummings must go before he does any more harm to the UK, the government, the prime minister, our institutions or the Conservative Party.”
By:
nineteen points
When: 24 May 20 09:00
as ive said cctv,motorways cameras etc will settle it all
By:
1st time poster
When: 24 May 20 09:13
steve baker making his pitch for been next right wing leader of tory party,maybe he thinks doris wont be hanging around to long after cummings goes,
he thought about standing last time
By:
1st time poster
When: 24 May 20 09:15
steve baker one of them blokes/mp.s you can listen to even if you disagree with him, imo
By:
A_T
When: 24 May 20 09:17
Gove's man getting the job done. Michael must be pi$$ing himself laughing over all this
By:
Angoose
When: 24 May 20 09:20
Simon Hoare MP
@Simon4NDorset

With the damage Mr Cummings is doing to the Government’s reputation he must consider his position. Lockdown has had its challenges for everyone. It’s his cavalier “I don’t care; I’m cleverer than you” tone that infuriates people. He is now wounding the PM/Govt & I don’t like that.

Another Tory MP speaks out ….
By:
elisjohn
When: 24 May 20 09:25
***

Cummings reveres Otto von Bismarck, the Prussian unifier of Germany, whom he describes as “the most effective person in politics for whom we have good sources”. He describes him as a “diabolical genius” and as “someone with skills in the political sphere equivalent to Newton or Einstein in the scientific sphere”. Cummings’s veneration for scientists can make you wonder why he isn’t one himself, but that is not his aim. He wants to be as analytically brilliant and coldly effective as a Fields Medalist, but in the world of power and politics. He would delight in being described as a “diabolical genius”: diabolical to the “elite” he loathes, and wishes to smash.

This is why reports suggesting Cummings will leave his present role within days of delivering Brexit are paradoxical. He is known to have delayed a medical operation in order to join the government in July. But a friend thinks these reports “confuse the fact that he’s got to have an operation [and be off work] for a few weeks with what he wants to do, which is to transform society”. Another agrees, saying that if Johnson wins a majority, Cummings will stay. Indeed, it would be striking if Cummings gave up power – he has spent his life preparing for it. This, above all else, is what his eccentric writings tell us.

He wants to command the ship of state. He wants to steer it into uncharted waters, the ones he believes he has long seen, but no captain has had the intelligence to spot. He has spent his life as a frustrated officer, pointing fruitlessly to glittering seas, while the state founders each year upon the rocks. He has now, finally, been handed command of the deck. The idea that he will readily relinquish control seems inconceivable.

Cummings does not see Brexit as an endgame, but simply as an opportunity. In his writings he openly quotes Lenin – “sometimes nothing happens in decades, and sometimes decades happen in weeks” – and evidently subscribes to Milton Friedman’s insight, that “only a crisis, actual or perceived, produces real change. When that crisis occurs, the actions that are taken depend on the ideas that are lying around.”

That is exactly how Cummings thinks the EU was created, and how his own vision of the world could be imposed.

“[Jean] Monnet created the EU by exploiting crises,” he writes, “[he had] a plan in his pocket for when crises hit.” In speaking of Monnet – a founding father in 1951 of the European Coal and Steel Community, the precursor to the EU – Cummings returns to the sobriquet he most seems to want. “Monnet was one of the few people in modern politics who really deserve the label ‘genius’,” he asserts. While postwar politicians lurched from day to day, Monnet had the foresight to see the real task: preparing for the future.

That is what unites Cummings’s digressions into developments in science with his observations on the nature of man, whether taken from Sun Tzu, Thucydides or Tolstoy. If he can both understand the direction of society and the timeless behaviour of men, he can chart the ship of state through the fog and moonlight of political war.

***

Many MPs, political editors, and Remain voters cannot fathom what Dominic Cummings is doing. Yes, they seem to think, you should try to win an election, but first you must be decent, and fair, and tell the truth. Winning an election is the game, but there are rules. The problem for those outraged by Cummings is that they may be wrong. What appear to be rules are in fact only conventions, and cannot be enforced. If voters want to elect liars, democracy empowers them to.

During the 2016 referendum, Cummings understood this. As Craig Oliver, David Cameron’s former head of communications, tells me, as an insurgent he could “take free hits at the establishment and then run away”. As Cameron’s consigliere, Oliver watched Cummings break the rulebook. That was no surprise; Cummings thinks rules are there to be broken. It is one of the six pieces of advice he gives to followers. He also thinks those in Westminster lack imagination. “They can’t imagine something like Stalin… deliberately murdering millions,” he writes, just as they could not imagine Donald Trump as president or Brexit. They do not, he thinks, realise that they are viewing the world through their own very particular perspective. The challenge is to escape the tiny leaf on which they all stand, and see the forest that surrounds them.

That, thinks Cummings, is what scientific geniuses do. “Newton looked up from his leaf, looked far away from today, and created a new perspective – a new model of reality,” he writes. Once discovered, that model, calculus, allowed, “billions of people who are far from being geniuses [to] use this new perspective”.

This is what Cummings hopes to do for politics. He wishes to discover an equivalent to calculus, to “create something new that could scale very fast”. He wants to build an operating system for government: to be a Steve Jobs for politics, delivering “huge long-term value for humanity”.

Through his system, as yet unexplained – “I will go into what I think this vision could be and how to do it another day” – he will turn a nation of average people into one of the most successful countries in the world. He will sweep away the suffocating postwar mainframes of politics, and build something capable of withstanding the unknown crises ahead. Or so he would wish. In truth, he may be little more than a survivalist in the woods, soldering wires together in the belief he is saving us all.

Is Dominic Cummings a visionary or a fool? The remarkable fact is that the Conservative Party has risked its future, and the country’s, on which one Cummings turns out to be.
full copy on
https://www.newstatesman.com/politics/uk/2019/09/dominic-cummings-machiavel-downing-street
By:
1st time poster
When: 24 May 20 09:26
are journo,media thick, did he ,didn't he, forget about durham the easiest thing to prove is,according to mail a dozen reporters were berated by cummings mother inside his house yesterday,if that's true she,s not allowed to be in their and certainly cant stay the night under her sons own instructions, can we just start with that then move on,
of course the right wing mail could be wrong
By:
Cider
When: 24 May 20 09:26
Sophy trying her hardest, poor lamb. Not getting anywhere, she's slightly ticking Grin
By:
1st time poster
When: 24 May 20 09:28
downing street says there,s no truth in the rumour the NHS app  blew up whilst trying to keep tabs on cummings Laugh
By:
1st time poster
When: 24 May 20 09:30
right  wing, king brexiteer, tory steve baker,should be ashamed of himself politicising the cummings story, LaughLaughLaughLaugh
By:
1st time poster
When: 24 May 20 09:33
the tory party should congratulate itself on having  people like shapps,hancock,gove,williamson, etc who havnt a shred of pride and don't mind lying, been made to look like complete idiots by 2nd rate journo,s ,presenters on a daily basis
By:
Cider
When: 24 May 20 09:33
The left having to support Steve Baker definitely demonstrates the level of desperation and hypocrisy at play. Luckily for them twatter doesn't show people holding their noses whilst retweeting Laugh
By:
politicspunter
When: 24 May 20 09:38

May 24, 2020 -- 9:33AM, Cider wrote:


The left having to support Steve Baker definitely demonstrates the level of desperation and hypocrisy at play. Luckily for them twatter doesn't show people holding their noses whilst retweeting


Erm, were you not baying for the blood of the Scottish medical officer?

By:
Cider
When: 24 May 20 09:39
No. I was saying the reaction was uncomfortable and OTT, read the thread.
By:
Angoose
When: 24 May 20 09:40
Damian Collins
@DamianCollins

Dominic Cummings has a track record of believing that the rules don’t apply to him and treating the scrutiny that should come to anyone in a position of authority with contempt. The government would be better without him.

Another Tory MP speaks out ......
By:
jucel69
When: 24 May 20 09:44
Surely they need evidence of a 2nd visit
A couple of old hag labour activists is flimsy to say the least
By:
Cider
When: 24 May 20 09:45
Collins was opposed to Brexit prior to the 2016 referendum.

In 2010, it was reported that Collins claimed £4,440.90 over three months in rent for a house in London, despite declaring that he already owned a home in the capital. In his defence, he said the property belonged to his wife and was "too small to provide accommodation for my young family, and even if that was not the case, as a new Member of Parliament I wouldn't be able to claim any accommodation allowance against the mortgage on the property."


lol Damian not exactly a stickler for the rules either Grin
By:
A_T
When: 24 May 20 09:46
Surely they need evidence of a 2nd visit
A couple of old hag labour activists is flimsy to say the least


where's the on-the-record denial?
By:
jucel69
When: 24 May 20 09:48
Who can forget the ultimate sleazeball Mandy
Sacked/resigned twice for far worse and came back a third time
Putrid vermin
By:
jucel69
When: 24 May 20 09:50

May 24, 2020 -- 9:46AM, A_T wrote:


Surely they need evidence of a 2nd visitA couple of old hag labour activists is flimsy to say the leastwhere's the on-the-record denial?


Best to stay quiet in these situations
Make the papers produce the evidence

By:
A_T
When: 24 May 20 09:53
these situations

Yes not getting caught out lying - always wise
By:
1st time poster
When: 24 May 20 09:58
their not denying barnard castle visit their going down the daily exercise route,passed his 14 day isolation etc,etc,
obviously hoping that everything they've called untrue but has proved true,will fall down about his return visit,but mirror reporter on marr stands by the whole story

but I,ll ask again,can cummings confirm was his mother in his London home yesterday berating reporters as the mail on sunday reported,which is also against the instructions
By:
A_T
When: 24 May 20 09:59
Shapps on record syaing Dom didn't make a second return to Durham
By:
politicspunter
When: 24 May 20 10:00

May 24, 2020 -- 9:39AM, Cider wrote:


No. I was saying the reaction was uncomfortable and OTT, read the thread.


Cider • April 10, 2020 6:16 PM BST
Her position was untenable. Joe Pike actually asked about Jenrick at the Scottish briefing earlier today, only he would know why.

Now, are you sure ?

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