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New witnesses cast doubt on Dominic Cummings's lockdown claims
Exclusive: eyewitness says top No 10 aide left isolation to go 30 miles to popular tourist town
Matthew Weaver https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2020/may/23/new-witnesses-cast-doubt-on-dominic-cummingss-lockdown-claims?CMP=Share_iOSApp_Other

Devastating new claims have emerged that Dominic Cummings further breached the lockdown rules, as Downing Street came under sustained pressure to fire the prime minister’s most senior adviser.

The new testimony suggests Cummings left the home where he was staying in Durham to visit a town 30 miles away. He was allegedly spotted back in Durham on 19 April, days after he was photographed in London having recovered from the virus.

At the time, with the country at the peak of the pandemic, the government was insisting that people should be staying at home.

As Cummings faced calls to resign from across the political spectrum, the government was forced to defend his actions.

Ministers insisted he had stayed put once arriving at a property in Durham, where he had travelled after contracting the symptoms of coronavirus to seek the support from his extended family.

But the new claims would appear to demolish this defence and intensify questions over his claim that going there was permitted because he needed childcare while he was sick.

The new accounts also raise fresh questions about his insistence that the initial 264-mile trip to Durham was justified.

The two new witnesses were revealed in a joint investigation by the Guardian/Observer and the Sunday Mirror.

One saw him in Durham on 19 April, days after Cummings was photographed in London having recovered from the virus.

A week earlier Cummings was seen by another witness in Barnard Castle on Easter Day, 30 miles away from Durham, the investigation found. The town, which takes its name from the English Heritage site at its centre, is a popular destination for days out.

Robin Lees, 70, a retired chemistry teacher from the town, says he saw Cummings and his family walking by the Tees before getting into a car around lunch time on 12 April.

Lees said: “I was a bit gobsmacked to see him, because I know what he looks like. And the rest of the family seemed to match - a wife and child. I was pretty convinced it was him and it didn’t seem right because I assumed he would be in London.”

He added: “I went home and told my wife, we thought he must be in London. I searched up the number plate later that day and my computer search history shows that.”

Asked if thought Cummings should resign, Lees, said: “Of course he should. [Catherine] Calderwood [Scotland’s former chief medical officer] resigned after being stupid by visiting her second home. [Government scientific adviser Prof Neil] Ferguson didn’t even go anywhere, it was his mistress, and he had to resign too.

“They didn’t do anything nearly as irresponsible as Cummings. You don’t take the virus from one part of the country to another. It just beggars belief to think you could actually drive when the advice was stay home, save lives. It couldn’t have been clearer.”

When Cummings was apparently recognised a second time on 19 April he was wearing his trademark beanie hat, and was heard commenting on how “lovely” the bluebells were during an early morning Sunday stroll with his wife Mary Wakefield.

The second eyewitness, who declined to be named, said: “We were shocked and surprised to see him because the last time we did was earlier in the week in Downing Street.”

Cummings had been photographed on the 14 April in Downing Street, the first time he had been seen back at work since recovering from the virus.

“We thought ‘he’s not supposed to be here during the lockdown’,” the source said.

“We thought: ‘What double standards, one rule for him as a senior adviser to the prime minister and another for the rest of us.’”

At Saturday’s daily Downing Street press conference, the transport secretary, Grant Shapps, said Cummings’s actions, first revealed by the Guardian and Daily Mirror, were acceptable because he and his family had remained in isolation after arriving at the property in Durham, rather than travelling away from the property.

“The decision here was to go to that location and stay in that location,” he said. “They didn’t then move around from there.”

The deputy chief medical officer, Jenny Harries, said the aim of the advice on self-isolation was to remain “out of circulation”.

Shapps said that the prime minister gave Cummings his full support. He added that he did not know when Boris Johnson became aware of the circumstances of Cummings’s decision to go to Durham.

Asked whether Cummings’s claim that the police had not spoken to his family despite an official statement to the contrary meant that Durham constabulary were lying, he said that he was “not sure where the confusion in that comes in”.

Durham police are standing by their statement on Friday that the Cummings family was reminded of the lockdown rules on 31 March, after he was seen in the city.

No 10 insisted that the family were not spoken to, and Johnson’s chief adviser claimed he did nothing wrong.

It came as figures from the police, church, the health service and the government’s own science advisory group condemned Cummings’s actions and warned that it risked undermining public adherence to the lockdown. Downing Street has also been accused of a cover-up after initial reports that some in No 10 knew he had made the journey.

Last night, Labour demanded a Whitehall inquiry into the trip. In a letter to cabinet secretary Sir Mark Sedwill, shadow cabinet office minister Rachel Reeves writes: “The British people do not expect there to be one rule for them and another rule for the Prime Minister’s most senior adviser.”

Meanwhile, the cabinet’s most senior ministers were accused of placing political loyalty over public health, after they launched an orchestrated battle to defend Cummings. Michael Gove, Dominic Raab, Rishi Sunak and Matt Hancock, were among those to defend the spin doctor.

Ed Davey, acting leader of the Liberal Democrats, said Cummings should be sacked, adding: “It’s rather insulting to the millions who’ve made sacrifices to keep to the government’s own rules for cabinet ministers now to be prioritising the career of Johnson’s spin doctor-in-chief above the public’s health and well-being.”

Nick Baines, the bishop of Leeds, told the Observer: “People have missed being with family members who have died. But, now we learn that there is one rule for the people and another for No 10 and the elite. Ministers have clearly been told to tweet support for Cummings. What price conscience? Or integrity? Or credibility? Or competence at a time when leadership can only be rooted in trust?”

Police warned that the allegations came at a crucial moment in the lockdown, with officers attempting to enforce the rules during a sunny bank holiday. George Peretz QC, a public law barrister, also suggested Cummings could have breached laws put in place to enforce the lockdown.

Downing Street declined to comment on the new claims.

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By:
Angoose
When: 23 May 20 19:51
A bit more mileage left in this one   ......
By:
saddo
When: 23 May 20 19:55
If it's owt to do with you Guardian types there certainly will be.
By:
Cider
When: 23 May 20 20:01
I look forward to Angoose posting the Guardian's critique of Joe Biden's recent outrageous racist outburst.
By:
1st time poster
When: 23 May 20 20:01
I did predict 8 hrs ago let the torys blow all day and hit,m with an upper cut tomorrow morning,not to say its  true though lets hope so , not because of cummings but doris and every front line cabinet minister has said what he did was okay and its alright for us to do the same and use any rules as advice not instructions
cant believe the super brains didn't see this coming if it turns out to be true
By:
1st time poster
When: 23 May 20 20:05
barnard castle very nice,but wait for pubs to reopen before you visit, the baldy fella who likes bright coloured trouser,s off the antiques shows has an antique shop there
By:
jollyswagman
When: 23 May 20 20:06
cider your bait is rotten Cry
By:
Baphornet
When: 23 May 20 20:07
i was going to post a best 100 titties in the world topic; but alas i don't think there will now be roomCry
By:
peckerdunne
When: 23 May 20 20:07
'lovely bluebells' Laugh
By:
1st time poster
When: 23 May 20 20:09
if true he,s gone, but what about all those cabinet minister,s tweeeting today ,where,s their credibility,obviously mr gove/doris are ok everyone no,s their a pair of lying kooonts LaughLaughLaughLaugh
By:
Cider
When: 23 May 20 20:09
That's a lot of words for a non story. This is after Cummings had returned to work Cry

What kind of person publicly admits to googling other peoples number plates Laugh
By:
Baphornet
When: 23 May 20 20:10
feck it
By:
1st time poster
When: 23 May 20 20:10
the right complain about the bbc but every presenter today,even at this very minute going out of their way to defend the indefensible, Laugh
By:
1st time poster
When: 23 May 20 20:12
any named witnesses will need police protection because ive no doubt cummings is capable of arranging retribution, Devil
By:
jollyswagman
When: 23 May 20 20:14
apparently it took kuenssberg 8 minutes to start tweeting from 'government sources' last night once the story broke, i wonder how long it will be tonight.

1tp, guido will be looking to link any 'witnesses' to labour / momentum for sure.
By:
1st time poster
When: 23 May 20 20:17
don't no who googles num,ber plates but I no you cant drive 100p,s of miles and avoid number plate checks,so if its true no way will downing street deny it to easy to prove, he needs plastic surgery the glass,knife scar under his eye a giveaway, Laugh
By:
politicspunter
When: 23 May 20 20:17

May 23, 2020 -- 8:01PM, Cider wrote:


I look forward to Angoose posting the Guardian's critique of Joe Biden's recent outrageous racist outburst.


Totally irrelevant to this thread.

By:
Cider
When: 23 May 20 20:18
The witness wasn't home either, presumably getting exercise doing the same thing as Cummings. Pretty risky for a 70 yo on the threshold of being vulnerable. What's the story here (aside from someone is claiming to be sad enough to note someone's number plate to google it later on)?
By:
1st time poster
When: 23 May 20 20:18
those cabinet minister lemmings only one person not to tweet support today was LaughLaughLaughLaughLaughLaughLaugh
By:
politicspunter
When: 23 May 20 20:19
Was it the hide and seek champion?
By:
Cider
When: 23 May 20 20:20

May 23, 2020 -- 8:17PM, politicspunter wrote:


May 23, 2020 --  7:01PM, Cider wrote:I look forward to Angoose posting the Guardian's critique of Joe Biden's recent outrageous racist outburst.Totally irrelevant to this thread.


It was relevant to saddo's post (on this thread)

By:
nineteen points
When: 23 May 20 20:20
i asked on here a few weeks ago how they could predict the north east was a couple of weeks behind london and was due a surge in cases. i know now.
By:
Ibrahima Sonko
When: 23 May 20 20:21
Sad state of affairs, even perverse when ill parents cannot go and drop their kid off at their grandparents to be looked after.
By:
1st time poster
When: 23 May 20 20:22
to be honest looks true,downing street not answering requests  for a statement,but looks like school boy lesson num,ber one sting tactics,bank hol weekend,late fri night 1st story,obviously something to back it up sunday papers ,so why did downing street,cabinet ministers throw all their chips in today,fooooking madness,
you,d think shapps was in on it repeated a dozen times they strayed in one house self isolating, Laugh
By:
jollyswagman
When: 23 May 20 20:23
where is laura?
By:
Cider
When: 23 May 20 20:24

May 23, 2020 -- 8:22PM, 1st time poster wrote:


to be honest looks true,downing street not answering requests  for a statement,but looks like school boy lesson num,ber one sting tactics,bank hol weekend,late fri night 1st story,obviously something to back it up sunday papers ,so why did downing street,cabinet ministers throw all their chips in today,fooooking madness, you,d think shapps was in on it repeated a dozen times they strayed in one house self isolating,


days after he was photographed in London having recovered from the virus.

what am I missing?

By:
politicspunter
When: 23 May 20 20:24

May 23, 2020 -- 8:21PM, Ibrahima Sonko wrote:


Sad state of affairs, even perverse when ill parents cannot go and drop their kid off at their grandparents to be looked after.


Cummings wasn't ill. The guidelines were 100% clear against visiting elderly family members (or giving them your grandchildren).

By:
1st time poster
When: 23 May 20 20:24
man in a fridge ,punter Laugh
By:
1st time poster
When: 23 May 20 20:24
hancock removes tweet and becomes speechless again,pleading the 5th Laugh
By:
Cider
When: 23 May 20 20:25
If he went to the town when he was isolating, that would be a story. This however, is desperate.
By:
1st time poster
When: 23 May 20 20:25
GET RRESIGING DONE LaughLaugh
By:
jollyswagman
When: 23 May 20 20:25
cider they are claiming he got better, went back to london and returned to durham.

also i think the first time he was there he went on a jolly 30 miles away.
By:
smirnoff2therescue
When: 23 May 20 20:26
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a9XcuN5hZwk
By:
1st time poster
When: 23 May 20 20:27
EDITORS OF MIRROR.guardian/observer must be gobsmacked at how this has played out,they,ll be singing can we play you every week in the newsroom,

the spectator must have got word of it
By:
Cider
When: 23 May 20 20:27
His family had moved to Durham. So he was allowed to go home for easter as a key worker.
By:
1st time poster
When: 23 May 20 20:29
oops the last time I heard desperate andy Coulson went to jail
By:
Angoose
When: 23 May 20 20:31
By:
1st time poster
When: 23 May 20 20:31
makes jennrick look housebound Laugh
By:
Angoose
When: 23 May 20 20:33
I just wonder if part of the reason Johnson didn't put in an appearance today was the fear of a second round of this story.

Cummings will have either told him the whole story, or he didn't.
Either way, it puts Johnson in an awkward spot.
By:
winningthought
When: 23 May 20 20:33
the spectator must have got word of it

Obviously, hence the cover story published by the wife.

How does it play out if it turns out he didn't have coronavirus at all and just wanted to bugger off for a few weeks with the family while BoJo was in hospital and the country in a state of National Emergency?
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