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By:
Emitdeb
When: 05 May 20 02:54
Level 5 aint for me... Not going to delude myself any further.... Cry
By:
elisjohn
When: 05 May 20 06:16
yes, its far to clever for me, i just wish it would do a simple mistake occassionallyGrin, ive had one win and a couple of  stalemate in trillion of games( im also doubting myself if my win was level 5 now tbh)
By:
elisjohn
When: 05 May 20 06:30
invicta, www.chess.com. im playing level 5, and losing, i reckon id win 80% level 1, 60% level 2, 50% level 3 and 4 , maybe less to be honest , but im sticking to level 5 to crack it .
Dont know what level this computer is compared to the worlds greatest players?
By:
TheNorfolkMafia
When: 05 May 20 11:47
Sadly, I'm too stubborn, but I have to admit that Computer Level 5 is too good for me!

Cry
By:
TheNorfolkMafia
When: 06 May 20 00:04
Computer Level 5

Played 14, Lost 14!

Cry
By:
elisjohn
When: 06 May 20 06:11
yes, just played a blinder to win level5, it tried it best to trick me into a stalemate ,, but i was too clever Laugh, must admit i played a perfect gameHappy
By:
TheNorfolkMafia
When: 06 May 20 11:50
Very well done!
By:
Charlie
When: 06 May 20 13:04
Does the software have an option to copy the moves? If so post a few on here and someone may give you some advice.
By:
invicta
When: 06 May 20 13:07
yes well done, I'm now using the same site as you, would love to win a few. How did you move through the levels, I'm thinking win 3 at one level and move to next.
By:
politicspunter
When: 06 May 20 13:08

May 6, 2020 -- 1:04PM, Charlie wrote:


Does the software have an option to copy the moves? If so post a few on here and someone may give you some advice.


happy to help also.

By:
invicta
When: 06 May 20 13:09
* win 3 consecutive.
By:
politicspunter
When: 06 May 20 13:22
Here is some basic stuff. At the start of the game, control of the centre of the board is important. Try and advance at least one of your central pawns two squares. Develop all your minor pieces (knights and bishops ) to active squares. Don't move knights out to the edge of the board, try and develop them on c3 and f3 where they can control the centre. Always castle, either side of board which gives your king some safety from attack. Ty not to move any piece more than once in the opening, until you have developed them all. Don't try to develop rooks by moving your a or h pawn two squares and bringing your rooks out via a3 or h3. Keep your rooks working together in the same rank or column. Don't bring your queen out too early where she will just be attacked and chased around, gaining your opponent time. Know the value of your pieces, a knight or bishop is worth three points, a rook is worth five points and your queen is worth ten points, so don't give up one of your rooks for one of your opponents minor pieces unless you really have to. Ok, that was just off the top of my head but hopefully helpful.
By:
Emitdeb
When: 06 May 20 13:31
Thats the way I played it. Pretty easy to sail through the first 3.... Level 4 is me.. win some lose some. Level 5 is a Brick wall.

Live 10 minute games are a lot of fun...

Congratulations elisjohn on winning at level 5... ShockedHappy
By:
Emitdeb
When: 06 May 20 13:32
I was talking about 3 consrcutive wins per level...
By:
Emitdeb
When: 06 May 20 13:33
Bluddy fat fingers... Laugh
By:
elisjohn
When: 06 May 20 13:51
yes invicta, ive won at level 5 now, but lost and been hammered in most , but ill go to level 6 now , im probably a level3 player at best , I reckon id win 50% of those
By:
elisjohn
When: 06 May 20 13:59
politics, is it better so sacrifice a bishop for a knight or vice versa?, and thanks for the tips above
By:
politicspunter
When: 06 May 20 14:06

May 6, 2020 -- 1:59PM, elisjohn wrote:


politics, is it better so sacrifice a bishop for a knight or vice versa?, and thanks for the tips above


A bishop and knight are worth the same, three points. There are times when it is an advantage to have one over the other, particularly in an endgame. Let's suppose you are in an endgame with a few pawns and a minor piece (knight or bishop). If all the pawns are on one side of the board, the knight can be handier. However , if the remaining pawns are on opposite sides of the board, the bishop is normally much better to have because he can cover the squares easier, whereas it takes the knight a long time to travel from one side of the board to another. If you are approaching an endgame with these different types of pawn structures, ask yourself what piece is more useful, if you have a opportunity to choose.

By:
Charlie
When: 06 May 20 16:21
As pp said it really depends on the position. Master praxis, without a shadow of a doubt, prefer in general bishops over knights especially two bishops over other two piece combinations. At levels below master the difference between the two is negligible. Sticking them on reasonable squares is much more important.

As a very general rule (most rules in chess are specific to the position though) it's better to have a bishop on the opposite coloured squares to your pawns as they restrict it's movement. If you have two bishops then that circumvents that problem to some extent.
By:
darren_discombobulates_sports
When: 06 May 20 16:49
What you will always notice when playing the computer is that the computer is quite happy pretty much all of the time to sacrifice their bishop for a knight. Sacrificing your queen to take their queen is a good move imo.
By:
Charlie
When: 06 May 20 17:26
You don't sacrifice a bishop for a knight you exchange it. You would sacrifice a rook for a knight, amongst many other sacrifices you could make..
By:
Charlie
When: 06 May 20 17:38
I should expand on that. A sacrifice is when you give up something of a greater value for something of a lesser value or give away something for nothing - most frequently a pawn.
By:
Charlie
When: 06 May 20 17:42
But by sacrificing something you expect to gain compensation as in better central control, domination of squares, an  attack, a defensible position and many more examples.
By:
elisjohn
When: 06 May 20 17:56
i do take queen for queen, darren,and have been exchanging my bishops for knights a lot, thanks all for tips, im going to play my 1st level 6 later.
By:
darren_discombobulates_sports
When: 06 May 20 18:00
didn't expect a different interpretation of the word sacrifice, not sure if that's a well versed chess term, but   what I meant was in other words, the computer does not mind losing it's bishop when it takes a knight as it seems to value a knight more than a bishop as it makes that move often, their knight doesn't take a bishop often if it knows it's knight will be taken.
By:
TheNorfolkMafia
When: 06 May 20 23:21
Computer Level 5

Played 15, Lost 15!

Cry
By:
elisjohn
When: 07 May 20 05:50
level 6, 2 matches lost 2.
i feel in the game and actually doing well then out of the blue its tied me up in knots
By:
elisjohn
When: 07 May 20 06:52
0-3, the computer had 2 rooks 6 pawns to my  2 rooks 5 pawns, it outsmarted me by getting a queen back. i feel that i really blew it
By:
politicspunter
When: 07 May 20 08:18

May 7, 2020 -- 6:52AM, elisjohn wrote:


0-3, the computer had 2 rooks 6 pawns to my

By:
politicspunter
When: 07 May 20 08:22
Endgames are where the master is so much better than the decent club player. If you are good at endgames you can win many games that look drawn and rescue many that look lost. A good way of practising your endgames against the computer/ online opponent is just to trade off most of your minor pieces and queen/ one or two rooks in order to leave yourself in an endgame with just king, pawns, and maybe one piece each.
By:
politicspunter
When: 07 May 20 08:26
The king becomes a very important piece in endgames and has to be kept active and where the action is. It's a bit like Texas hold em poker, steady careful play for most of the tournament (king safe) then down to the last table or so, change up gears (king very aggressive).
By:
TheNorfolkMafia
When: 07 May 20 11:06
politicspunter,

Thanks for all your help!

My reluctance to exchange pieces is undoubtedly my biggest fault, added to the fact that I'm not up to Computer Level 5 standard!

Love
By:
politicspunter
When: 07 May 20 11:17
Sometimes it's best just to simplify matters asap. With loads of pieces on, it can become very complicated and difficult to analyse all the tactics, especially if you are under time pressure. Just exchanging a lot of bits can clear the decks a bit and also cut down dramatically your choices of decent moves to consider.
By:
Foinavon
When: 07 May 20 11:30
Charlie12 Apr 20 18:32Joined: 01 Dec 01 | Topic/replies: 28,952 | Blogger: Charlie's blog
There is only one person who knows me in the flesh who can substantiate or not not about my chess and that is Foinavon.

I've only just looked through this thread. Yes, I do know Charlie and he used to be a very good club player one of the better players in the Birmingham chess league and a feared opponent even after a few pints of Banks's. Wrt chess strategy and tactics he knows what he's talking about.
By:
elisjohn
When: 07 May 20 15:52
oh my god, level 6, attacking game piece for piece, ive got rook 4 pawns and a knight, to computer 3 pawns 1 rook, I was one sq from getting my queen back, then computer starts being aggressive with his king, im 1.05 to win this match, his king  outplayed me, and I bloody lostCry, tell you i got really excited, but as a previous post said the computer end game was brilliant
By:
Charlie
When: 07 May 20 17:08

May 7, 2020 -- 11:30AM, Foinavon wrote:


Charlie12 Apr 20 18:32Joined: 01 Dec 01 | Topic/replies: 28,952 | Blogger: Charlie's blogThere is only one person who knows me in the flesh who can substantiate or not not about my chess and that is Foinavon.I've only just looked through this thread. Yes, I do know Charlie and he used to be a very good club player one of the better players in the Birmingham chess league and a feared opponent even after a few pints of Banks's. Wrt chess strategy and tactics he knows what he's talking about.


Thanks Foinavon, £20 in the post as agreed Wink.

Hope you and family are keeping well.

By:
Charlie
When: 07 May 20 17:32
If you are on chess.com I've just checked you can copy your moves. This was my last game, I was white not particularly good though. It was a human 5/3 game.

1.d4 d5 2.c4 dxc4 3.Nf3 e6 4.e3 a6  5.a4 b6  6.Bxc4 Bb7  7.O-O c5 8. Qe2 Nf6 9.Rd1 Qc8 10. Nc3 Bd6 11. e4 cxd4 12. Nxd4 Bc5
13. Nf3 O-O 14. h3 Nc6  15. e5 Nd7 16. Bf4 Ne7  17. Rac1 Rd8 18. Ne4 Bxe4 19. Qxe4 Ng6 20. b4 Bxb4 21. Bxe6 fxe6
22. Rxc8 Raxc8 23. Qxb4 a5 24. Qd6 Nxf4 25. g3 Ne2+ 26. Kf1 Nc3 27. Qxe6+ Kf8 28. Rxd7 1-0

I did have to format the moves because when copied they were in one long list.
By:
Foinavon
When: 07 May 20 19:30
We're getting by, Charlie, the sunny weather helps. Hope you are OK. I haven't played for more than 10 years now and don't miss it although I play through recorded GM games on Youtube and solve the occasional chess problem which is enough for me.
I'll play through your QGA when I can find my set as I can only get to about half-way in my mind now before losing track.
By:
Charlie
When: 07 May 20 19:49
I'm fine thanks.

I haven't played a serious over the board game for 20 years now (how time flies). I do play on chess.com and lichess but not a lot and only short time formats. And I really do only play when I'm completely bladdered. Had some fun playing the hippopotamus reversed i.e. for white which seemed to drive my opponents crazy into calling me a boring player. Also made up my own defense with black against e4 which goes d6, c6, nd7, qc7 and e5. It's not very good but requires no thought.

At quick time limits I've had quite a lot of success against the King's Gambit playing 2. Nc6 and 3.f5. I used to play that over the board as well. Tony Miles introduced it.
By:
Foinavon
When: 07 May 20 20:04
That d6 defence looks horrible. Mark Hebden used to play the Kings Gambit in tournaments and I've seen that played against him and get slaughtered. He was extremely good tactically. (This was when he was a lad before achieving his IM grade).
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