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26 Mar 20
20:04
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Pay lower tax
Pay almost zilch in national insurance
Expect unlimited access to the NHS
Always looking at tax dodging avoidance
Pretend to hire family members
Now they want paying out. Jeez
Pay almost zilch in national insurance
Expect unlimited access to the NHS
Always looking at tax dodging avoidance
Pretend to hire family members
Now they want paying out. Jeez
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More front than Brighton.
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Will be interesting to see what they get. If they pay little tax and NI, then their 'net-relevant' return will be low... and so will their handout.
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I'm not sure that anyone who has obviously never been self employed is informed enough to comment tbf.
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no different to some big companys messing up and getting bailed out
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Nobody has messed up, they've been told to stop working same as those on PAYE
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A great nephew of mine makes nearly £100k per year and pays a massive whack of tax as self employed IT contractor,cant paint them all in a negative light.
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yeh but as the op says there are a lot of benefits to being self employed, as long as you aren't fùcking clueless.
You can fiddle loads of expenses through the books, fiddle tax, fiddle vat, cash jobs etc etc The IR haven't got the resources either to catch people out |
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smells like IR 35!
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is he self employed or does he have a limited company?
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jucel69 26 Mar 20 19:16
yeh but as the op says there are a lot of benefits to being self employed, Tel me why you and every other worker are not self employed then? |
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You have to feel for anyone who declared earnings of £15k to the taxman - it's very confusing when others tell you to take an additional £xxk in a tax-efficient vehicle like a dividend - but obviously, because of that, the 2019 self-employed tax-returns are seriously misleading. These are special times and, as a one-off, all self-employed should be allowed (without prejudice) to disclose their true historical earnings so that Govt can keep them in the style to which they are accustomed.
Entrepeneurs are the backbone of this great country. |
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This isn't as rosy as some may think... as UB said about those declaring low incomes; they are only going to get 80% of that. I'm not sure what the dates are, but if it includes this current year, that ends next week, some will bump up their incomes to improve the average, but if they do that, they are going to be hit with tax on it regardless, not forgetting they are also exposing their previous years as potential lies (never) and this could flag up later. Plus the fact whatever they are given will be taxed too.
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They are being offered similar help to anyone else who works, htf that can be seen as unfair is beyond me, some bitter people about.
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cant answer the full details jucel but he takes pride in paying his whack and says if he earns the cash he can pay the tax,think he writes complicated code for banks,in demand at times.
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as a one-off, all self-employed should be allowed (without prejudice) to disclose their true historical earnings
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"They are being offered similar help to anyone else who works"
No they aren't. They can carry on working AND get a cash handout. |
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Is that a guess?
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just because you are self employed does not mean you earn big money.
no work ,no pay. work outside with this wet climate, lucky to do 6 months. no sick. no payed holidays. bad payers. not so rosy as people think and i have been on both sides of the fence, wish i had stayed employed by a company. |
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saddo26 Mar 20 19:18Joined: 04 Dec 05 | Topic/replies: 38,464 | Blogger: saddo's blog
Tel me why you and every other worker are not self employed then? Because they don't have the Hyena personality of the self employed? Man have you ever heard a conversation between two self employed people? It's all about if you do this if you do that to avoid paying tax. The self employed have held a dagger to the throat of this nation. Vile individuals. |
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Life ain't fair, you just have to play the hand you are dealt as well as possible
I'm stuck in limbo at the moment having sold up overseas, suddenly my plans for the next few years have just changed massively, because of this outbreak Going to have visa and insurance issues soon so I need to get the fùck out of dodge in the next month or so! |
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everybody who doesnt get taxed at source(paye) fiddle their tax,from the individual to large companys
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Steve, you sound a bit twisted as well as uninformed. Did a plumber shag your mrs one time?
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"vile individuals"
...what a ****. |
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the building trade is notorious, some of those subbies and contractors make a mint and take the piss
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anyone who makes money in our society is hated by the rest
cos they are too lazy and lack bravura etc etc jealous coz they missed the boat etc they are quite happy to use us when in trouble though |
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Indeed knotty, another sweeping generalisation about 5 million disparate people. Some people full of shlt and hate.
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what happens to the full time gamblers/traders?
Will BF give some of our commission/premium charges back? |
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saddo- the bitterness and bile posted on hear the last few weeks...you just have to pity them.
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I am down a third of income on betfair although sneaking a few bob on these strange friendly games
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so its you betting on those games
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I turn over less than 85k so don’t charge vat. That means I can’t recoup the vat on my outgoings. The vat I pay is in addition to tax an ni.
The vat businesses like mine contribute is a large outgoing. Add in the work we give to our suppliers.. countless businesses rely on the self employed to buy their products. |
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only the anti uk and those living outside the uk whinging
they hate us and then you have the millions who depend on the state for their money and not who you think |
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millions of civil servants who do very little for the economy but leach off the system like fleas on a dog's back
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