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By:
saddo
When: 27 Mar 20 09:17
Steve Voltage 27 Mar 20 07:32 
saddo

How many of those 5 million do you think pay their full 100%?




How would I possibly have any idea, how many drivers speed every time they go out, do you know that?
Anyway, you've a few weeks to get some tools, a vehicle, a business plan, customers and suppliers sorted out. You must be busting to give it a go, it's all free money innit.
By:
Johnny The Guesser
When: 27 Mar 20 09:18
Retired banker - Index linked pension 30k a year  - Been doing some self employed  Management Consultancy for the last few years - 40K a year.

Got 200K in his cash ISA and no mortgage.

Looking forward to spending his  summer off in his second home on the Cornish coast.

Going to spend his £7500 on some decking and a BBQ area.
By:
jucel69
When: 27 Mar 20 09:42

Mar 27, 2020 -- 9:18AM, Johnny The Guesser wrote:


Retired banker - Index linked pension 30k a year  - Been doing some self employed  Management Consultancy for the last few years - 40K a year.Got 200K in his cash ISA and no mortgage.Looking forward to spending his  summer off in his second home on the Cornish coast.Going to spend his £7500 on some decking and a BBQ area.


Going to spend his £7500 on some decking and a BBQ area

Made in China
Literally paying China to infect us ffs

By:
Whisperingdeath
When: 27 Mar 20 09:56
I think this is a pretty stupid argument. The virus dies not distinguish between employment and self employment. We don’t need people out on the streets trying to make money to feed their families. I was outraged as others when I heard construction was continuing on a building site owned by a rich Russian while the rest of us stayed home. Dorris initially allowed this or supported this action. Nurses were getting parking tickets ffs.

The actions of Rishi on the self employed have shown that he is still being hamstrung bu old school thinking......three years accounts, nothing if you take dividends only, you must have made a return last year etc. These are not things that need to be considered in a Pandemic.

A blanket payment may have been better, even a small one. I understand rich people don’t need the money but while we are deciding who needs money people are going to be going hungry. Get it done quick zRishi.

Another example of where leadership is letting us down, not just politics but leaders of business and industry is the health service. Just heRd two actors have arranged for nurses / health workers to get hot meals between shifts particularly those in red wards with plenty of PPE on. This is astonishing. Lack of fresh Ir and nutrition will lower your immune system. Nurses aregoin* to die because their bosses are not looking after them! The actors were Helen McCrory ( Pollly ) and Damian Lewis, well done. 6,000 hot meals a day from a cafe!
By:
Whisperingdeath
When: 27 Mar 20 09:57
Is the money a grant or loan?
By:
Johnny The Guesser
When: 27 Mar 20 10:04
Saw builder neighbour this morning on the drive , loading up his van. Moaning that he has got no work - He's going to work for the next couple of months tarting up his 5th buy to let that has stood empty for the last couple months.

"Might as well earn that way "  he said.

He's going to cop for £7500  - Face dropped when I told him it was taxable - He wants to know the best way to contact Sunak ?   -  "See if he wants to do a cash deal ? "
By:
saddo
When: 27 Mar 20 10:07
The envy seems to be getting to you. Start a partnership with steve, it's all out there, easy money no tax.
By:
Johnny The Guesser
When: 27 Mar 20 10:19
No envy at all.

A botched ineffective system that wastes billions of pounds - billions that could be put to a far better use helping people when this thing is done.

Yes it is good to help the truly needy - but even their help is coming far too slowly ! In doing this he is  throwing billions away on people who just don't need it or deserve it.
By:
saddo
When: 27 Mar 20 10:24
You're not tempted then?
By:
s.kenbo
When: 27 Mar 20 10:42
Voltage, did you see your thread I bumped yesterday?
By:
saddo
When: 27 Mar 20 10:56
They are starting up as sparkies, I wouldn't advise they use 'Voltage Guesser's' as a name.
By:
Steve Voltage
When: 27 Mar 20 11:11
saddo
How would I possibly have any idea, how many drivers speed every time they go out, do you know that?
Anyway, you've a few weeks to get some tools, a vehicle, a business plan, customers and suppliers sorted out. You must be busting to give it a go, it's all free money innit.




Throughout a journey I’d say above 90% you agree?
All you hear from them today is be careful it maybe a trap to close the loopholes in the system’

Unbelievable Plain
By:
saddo
When: 27 Mar 20 11:14
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Steve Voltage 06 Jan 13 09:27 
Anybody on here ever done this?

I'm thinking of doing this so if anyone has any advice i'd love to hear it. Happy




Laugh Please stop, my ribs are not in good shape just now
By:
1st time poster
When: 27 Mar 20 11:32
do you think this crisis will end the media,financial guru,s,money facts,martin lewis,moneybox on radio 4 etc,etc,telling us all that everyone should have 6 months worth of wages on the hip in cash in case of emergencies, LaughLaughLaughLaughLaughLaughLaugh
By:
Cider
When: 27 Mar 20 11:37
I'm afraid one of the unwelcome repercussions of this will be even less personal responsibility. Anyone self employed can have an accident or fall ill, so should really be in a position to cope without income for at least three months.
By:
saddo
When: 27 Mar 20 11:54
I was ill in January Cider, popped two ribs coughing and carried on working, with a bit of difficulty til March 5th. I have no sickness insurance and haven't claimed any sick pay in 40 years. I could have afforded time off with no pay, which I usually do, but I was pretty much irreplaceable on a job that was very time dependent, and in fact went a day over partly due to my slower pace. I carried on because I said I would get something done, that is simply part of self employment to those who gaf.
By:
Cider
When: 27 Mar 20 11:59
It's a gamble though isn't it saddo. There are illnesses and accidents that people couldn't possibly work through. It's not that difficult to set up an emergency fund for the vast majority of people. It's a mindset thing. Partly due to the entitled nature of the society we're living in, in 2020, people view some expenditure as a fundamental when it is not.
By:
Cider
When: 27 Mar 20 12:04
Instead of the SJW snowflake mind bending stuff kids are force fed in education nowadays, they should be having financial awareness and discipline drilled into them.
By:
saddo
When: 27 Mar 20 12:08
No intention of boasting Cider, you'd find it difficult to believe the injurious state some of us go to work with. When my neck was bad my wife had to button my shirt up in a morning for months, so useless was my left arm for an hour or two every day.
By:
Cider
When: 27 Mar 20 12:14
I've been there. You might scoff with me being office based but I put my back out so badly it took me 20 minutes to get in the car. That was more due to responsibility of being in charge rather than the threat of loss of income. However life is much less stressful when you've got a financial cushion. I work with a lot of young people and they are simply clueless about personal finances.
By:
GAZO
When: 27 Mar 20 12:16
unless its a credit card
By:
saddo
When: 27 Mar 20 12:22
I tried to bring my daughter up right cider, taught her to shop well and always save, she's 29 and doing very well, works harder than I ever have.
By:
saddo
When: 27 Mar 20 12:22
*She's self employed also
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