What's that tub of lard upto ffs,people dying needlessly.

First item on the news - the virus.

You'd think people were dying in the streets from Bubonic plague instead of an estimated 10,000 people with the sniffles or worse.
Ten dead.

No one wants a dose of the flu, but there's no need to be running scared.

"worst health crisis in generations"

And refuses to close schools, stop large gatherings, just wash your hands?

What is going on seriously? what is their goal?

La Liga calling their games off, USA banning flights from Europe, closing their capitol etc etc etc etc

You couldn't make this up

WSOP in doubt

Ireland closes all their schools, we've had half of their lot over here for the festival... nothing being done

Madrid are caped in the virus, we've had 1000s of them over here for the football... nothing being done

You couldn't make this up in a disaster movie

that's not entirely fair he did suggest,ask nicely  for people not to book A 20 GRAND CRUISE TOMORROW, haD TO PHONE THE WIFE UP IN TOWN AND TELL HER NOT TO BOTHER,

SontaranStratagem • March 12, 2020 5:51 PM GMT
What is going on seriously? what is their goal?

Their 'goal' is social control . Under normal circumstances the population will resist any form of State control and any threat to their right to freedom of movement and freedom to gather peacefully (either to protest or for leisure activities such as sports events etc.) .
But first of all the government need to rule by fear and this is done by stealth . If the people can be convinced that they are in imminent danger (also their families and in particular the elderly) they will be more inclined to accept restrictions imposed by the State . This will be done gradually until such time that the State has gained total control over the people . The only thing that will thwart their attempts is if a sufficient percentage of people start to question government propaganda fed to the masses through the media . If this forum , and in particular threads such as this , are any guide the number of gullible , sheep-like citizens , are in the minority . However it may be a sufficiently large minority to enable the State to achieve its aim !

We don't need much food to live on.

That's a point food supplies, are they going to eat the toilet rolls they're stocking up on?

They ain't fit to wipe mine full stop !

china, far east slowing cases down 120/150.000 recorded cases world wide ,obviously many more but Tweedledum/tweedledee hoping for 50 million uk public to catch it for their herd immunity model to work
may I ask is that absolutely foooooking blue sky thinking madness,worldwide we,re absolute foooooooking miles away from that

What would have been done with an outbreak like this say 50 years ago? Nothing.
It would have run its course, many would get it and recover, and some would die.

We'd just carry on.
The sooner you get the sooner you get over it.
If you're so weak that it polishes you off, how long had you got left anyway?

50 years ago millions of people wernt mortgaged to the hilt,wernt used to both parents working.could let 5 yr olds out alone, etc,etc

Dunno Dr C. Still no mention of China’s containment. Where has the virus gone in Wuhan?

Meanwhile Greta and her fans told us millions will die if we don’t stop flying etc. So with less flights, lower production, lives will be saved.

Is their a net gain to this virus?

Why is it called COVID-19? could it be that it's 19 years since 9/11, the elite are mocking us.

Article back in the year 2000


What is flu?
Influenza is defined by the Gray Laboratory's medical dictionary as "an acute viral infection involving the respiratory tract. It is marked by inflammation of the nasal mucosa, the pharynx and conjunctiva and by headache and severe, often generalised myalgia. Fever, chills and prostration are common." The incubation period is one to three days and the disease ordinarily lasts for three to ten days.

What are the symptoms?

Self-diagnosis of flu is difficult as its classic symptoms, a fever, a sore throat, a headache and aching joints, are often confused with a common cold. You can test whether you have the flu on the NHS Direct website.


Flu differs from a common cold in the way that its viral strains rapidly appear and affect large numbers of people. Flu usually involves these initial symptoms, along with a worsening of the sore throat and muscle pains.

How does it spread?

Flu viruses enter the body through the eyes, nose or mouth. Flu is usually spread from person to person via airborne droplets or respiratory fluids, especially coughing and sneezing.

Is it fatal?

Yes. Every year flu kills thousands, particularly the elderly. Healthy people tend not to die from flu, although they can if complications develop, such as pneumonia or blood poisoning.

What I do?

If you are suffering from flu symptoms, you should stay at home, keep warm (but not over-warm), take basic painkillers such as Paracetamol to relieve your temperature, and drink plenty of water or other fluid to prevent becoming dehydrated.


Antibiotics are not effective against the flu. If your illness lasts longer than the usual three to ten days, you should see your doctor. You should also get medical advice if you are at risk of developing complications. These tend to emerge if you are old, infirm, suffer from a chronic illness or respiratory disease, or have a reduced immunity, from HIV or undergoing chemotherapy for instance.

If you haven't suffered from the virus this year and are at risk from developing severe flu, you can get a vaccination, which provides providing immunity to flu infection. 9m people in Britain have been vaccinated this winter. You need the injection every year: the vaccine is updated annually because of flu's constant mutation into different viral forms.

What is the cure?

Flu can be prevented by vaccination, but there is no cure. Flu is categorised into types A, B and C. Every year or so there are minor "drifts" in the viral strains of flu. These changes are enough to make those who suffered from - and became immune to - the previous strain susceptible to the new one.


This occurs because each flu strain has different surface antigens - which are molecules of two proteins. A person's immune system produce antibodies to fight the invading virus. These are developed specifically to attack each antigen, so when a new flu strain emerges it can circumvent the existing armoury in the body's immune system.

Large changes in the makeup of flu type A occur every decade or so. These are called "antigenic shifts" and tend to result in large epidemics.

Is this bout of flu an epidemic?

An epidemic is defined by the online medical dictionary as "occurring suddenly in numbers clearly in excess of normal expectancy, said especially of infectious diseases but applied also to any disease, injury or other health related event occurring in such outbreaks."

The government says flu reaches epidemic proportions when 400 people per 100,000 are suffering from the virus.

---- we havent reached that level yet ---


Last week, statistics gathered from doctors across the country showed that 144 people per 100,000 had the flu.


The government's chief medical officer professor Liam Donaldson has called the current outbreak the first "serious epidemic" for 10 years. He says the figures are an underestimate because thousands are bypassing their doctors and going to the pharmacist or using the government's new NHS Direct service.

The medical profession disagree. The British Medical Association chairman Dr Ian Bogle has denied the existence of an epidemic. Dr Douglas Fleming, the director of the Birmingham research unit which calculates the official flu figures, says that flu rates are actually "very similar to the figures from last year which were not epidemic".

This year's outbreak falls well short of previous epidemics. In the last official epidemic during the winter of 1989-90, 600 people per 1,000 fell ill and 26,000 people died  ----- They didnt stop liverpool winning the league back then ----

if nothing else comes from this Covid19 it will be a good  exercise in an attempt to display better hygiene and manners amongst the unwashed ...like fooken sneezing and coughing in supermarkets/crowded areas etc  .

  colds are pretty much preventable  ,  but due to others lax efforts are spread

So let's see what's happened in the 7 days since I started the thread.

From a very casual attitude regarding the virus, the bug has been allowed to spread. Until now very severe measures are being taken which they tell us is an attempt to stop its spreading further.
Needless to say the economy is already staggering from the measures, with food shortages a reality following the panic created by the media. 

All the wrong moves to guarantee the virus won't be contained, and now they're busy wrecking the economy, businesses, and kids education, in order to achieve the exact opposite of their original stance, which won't stop the virus anyway. 

So why are they doing all this? Incompetence, What!  After the way Johnson brilliantly worked his way into power won the GE and put Brexit to bed.

No way are they incompetent, so what's going on?

I think they are incompetent.

The other alternative is they are bent.

It would appear they have not done what was required to stop the virus getting here in such numbers in the first place.

Who have they protected? Their friends and their friends, diners and themselves

Airlines, usually big supporters of the Conservatives
Insurance Companies,
Members of Lloyd’s?

Why could you fly to a Rome as recently as Friday?

Why were you “ advised “ not to travel or go to pubs rather than prohibited?

The government has protected no one, businesses are all in trouble.

Their inaction at the beginning has led to those companies especially airlines being on the edge of bankruptcy. How can that be viewed as looking after their friends?