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By:
edy
When: 30 Sep 19 23:16

Sep 30, 2019 -- 11:10PM, akabula wrote:


Yes but an obvious one at that, lacks subtlety.


I wasn't even replying to trilby's post. You know that, you are the only normal one out of the trio of you, trilby and Crippen.

By:
edy
When: 30 Sep 19 23:20
Though trilby is a good fella too, just...I mean...look at him posting about the New World Order and evil conspiracies all the time these days.
By:
edy
When: 30 Sep 19 23:21
Even 5G Cry
By:
GRANTCKING
When: 01 Oct 19 01:44
Grin trilby is a great guy
By:
John.W.Henry.
When: 01 Oct 19 09:12
I have to admit that the subject of global warming and climate change goes way out of my pay grade, however, when i read and see certain posters batting for the MSM I am always tempted to take a closer look and see what i can uncover which will probably shoot them down in the very same dog shoite which they have bought into.

What follows is a link to a short (12min) video delivered by a Dr. Shiva Ayyadurai, the Inventor of Email, who holds 4 degrees from MIT, is a Fulbright Scholar, and has started 7 successful hi-tech companies including EchoMail, CytoSolve and Systems Health. He is currently the Founder and CEO of CytoSolve, Inc., which is discovering cures for major diseases from Pancreatic Cancer to Alzheimer’s. He is also the Founder of Center for Integrative Systems that is the home of Innovation Corps and C.L.E.A.N./R.A.W. certifications.In addition he is currently campaigning for election into the senate.  So not just  "any old mug putting out a loon tube video".  I think everyone would agree this is a man of integrity and sound background !!

Anyway here is the link to the video which will help everyone understand exactly what this whole charade is all about and as usual it has fook all to do with improving the planet. Enjoy.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6JRKUr6D-wk&feature=youtu.be
By:
trilby22
When: 01 Oct 19 09:34
Good vid and another clever man https://shiva4senate.com/
Thanks for that, John.

Morning Grant.  You're very kind, thank you Blush  Lil Ed was quick off the mark to post THRICE immediately after I posted last night.  I wouldn't be so presumptuous to think he mentioned me in at least one of them but it strikes me as quite likely going by your comment. Do I indeed have me an ickle troll? ExcitedLaugh Imagine spending all your waking life posting incessant pish on a foreign message board.  Perhaps it's because it's one from the greatest country in the world, aye, that must be what it is.  Bless … and GSTQ Love
By:
John.W.Henry.
When: 01 Oct 19 09:37
For those interested here is a copy of the article that the good Doctor refers to in the video....

November 28, 2012
Fourteen Is the New Fifteen!
By Arvind Kumar

According to the leaders of the global warming doomsday cult, the average surface temperature of Earth is 14 degrees Celsius (57.2 degrees Fahrenheit), but this is a new value which has quietly replaced the original average of 15 degrees Celsius (59 degrees Fahrenheit).

In March 1988, a few months before NASA's James Hansen asserted before the Congress that global warming was in progress, the New York Times quoted him as saying that he used 59 degrees Fahrenheit as the average global temperature to calculate the temperature variations.

One of the scientists, Dr. James E. Hansen of the National Aeronautics and Space Administration's Institute for Space Studies in Manhattan, said he used the 30-year period 1950-1980, when the average global temperature was 59 degrees Fahrenheit, as a base to determine temperature variations.

In July of the same year, a report in the Connecticut-based newspaper The Day was consistent with this claim.  According to the Day's report on Hansen's congressional testimony:

Dr. Hansen informed the lawmakers that the first five months of 1988 were the hottest five-month period on record, averaging four-tenths of a degree above a 30-year (1950-1980) norm of 59 degrees Fahrenheit.

Although Hansen's recent publications provide his version of the differences from the base temperature for various years, he is careful enough not to provide either the observed temperatures or the value of the baseline temperature.  However, Hansen at one time revealed his base value in an academic publication.  That paper, "Climate Impact of Increasing Atmospheric Carbon Dioxide," appeared in Science in August 1981 and states:

The mean surface temperature is Ts ~ 288 K.

Two hundred and eighty-eight K, or 288 Kelvin, is the same as 15 degrees Celsius.  A report in the Schenectady-based Daily Gazette indicates that Hansen and his colleague Helene Wilson used this value at least as late as 1992.  Thus, Hansen consistently used 15 degrees Celsius as the baseline average for several years.

James Hansen was not the only person to use this value.  When the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change (IPCC), which was set up soon after Hansen's 1988 testimony before the Congress, came out with its First Assessment Report in 1990, a table on page xxxvii of the report listed the "Observed Surface Temperature" of Earth as 15 degrees Celsius.

Yet another person who used 15 degrees Celsius as the global average temperature was Anthony J. McMichael, an activist professor whose e-mail promising to pull strings in the Australian government figured in the Climategate scandal.  According to McMichael's 1993 book, Planetary Overload: Global Environmental Change and the Health of the Human Species:

Average temperature over past 10,000 years = 15°C

As it turned out, the average temperature of 15 degrees Celsius was an inconvenient value that did not support the allegations of global warming.

In 1996, Michael Mann (who shot to fame during the Climategate scandal as the creator of "Mike's Nature trick" to "hide the decline") co-authored a paper titled "Greenhouse Warming and changes in the seasonal cycle of temperature: Model versus observations."  The paper pointed out that the predictions made by climate models were not consistent with observed data and the variability in temperature  likely resulted from natural phenomena.

... the signature of greenhouse warming is scarcely evident in the observational data[.] ... It is possible that observed trends in phase, largely influenced by mid-latitude continental interiors, do not arise from greenhouse warming, but rather from natural variability. Such a notion is reinforced by the fact that marginally-significant trends are found in the control GFDL annual cycle, presumably due to organized century-scale internal variability.

If, on the other hand, the observed variation in the seasonal cycle truly represents a "fingerprint" of greenhouse warming, the GFDL and CCM1 models do not appear capable of capturing the detailed responses of the seasonal cycle to greenhouse forcing.

...

Discrepancies between the observed and model-predicted trends must be resolved before a compelling connection can be drawn between 20th century changes in the behavior of the annual cycle in temperature, and anthropogenic forcing of the climate.

Significantly, Mann used 15 degrees Celsius as the baseline temperature while calculating the parameters of the annual temperature cycle (see Figure 2 in his paper).  Although he could have picked any value in the cycle, he picked 15 degrees Celsius, and it is reasonable to assume that he did so because it was the accepted long-term global average temperature.

Not long after Mann's paper was published, the Worldwatch Institute, an organization based in Washington, D.C., came out with the 1997 edition of Vital Signs, its annual publication.  The publication had a chapter with the title "Global Temperature Down Slightly."

In literature published after the 1997 report by Worldwatch Institute, the leaders of the global warming movement seem to have started using 14 degrees Celsius for the global average temperature.  In 2002, the Sydney Morning Herald quoted James Hansen, who mentioned this new average.

This year the Earth's average temperature was 14.64C, compared with the long-term average of 14C, said James Hansen, of NASA's Goddard Institute for Space Studies, who analyses the data collected from thousands of weather stations around the world.

The IPCC too now uses 14 degrees Celsius as its base temperature, as can be seen from a graph that is part of its 2007 document.  (As an aside, it was in 2007 that IPCC won the Nobel Peace Prize.  IPCC certainly deserved a Nobel Prize, but it should have been for literature, as the organization had excelled in writing fantasy.)

More recently, a 2011 report by the Government Accountability Office attributes an estimated average surface air temperature of 287 K, or 14 degrees Celsius, to James Hansen and his colleagues.

But Hansen and colleagues have estimated that Earth's actual average surface air temperature between 1951 and 1980 was approximately 287 K (14 degrees Celsius) (Hansen et al. 2010).

It is hard to pinpoint the exact date when the change from 15 degrees to 14 degrees was introduced.  It most likely happened sometime in 1997, and definitely no later than January of 1998.

The 1998 edition of the annual publication of Worldwatch Institute uses 14 degrees Celsius as the global average temperature and provides details of how it was informed of the change from 15 degrees Celsius.  On page 69 of the report, a footnote below the table listing the global average temperatures for several years states:

Base number is 1 degree Celsius lower than in earlier Vital Signs.

On page 174 of the same report, we see the explanation for the change.

In earlier versions of Vital Signs, Worldwatch added the temperature change reported by the Goddard Institute to an estimated global temperature of 15 degrees Celsius, but the institute has since informed Worldwatch that a better base number would be 14 degrees Celsius. James Hansen, Goddard Institute for Space Studies, New York, email to author, 18 January 1998.

In other words, James Hansen sent word that 14 is the new 15.

LIES, DAMN LIES AND STATISTICS Wink
By:
detraveller
When: 01 Oct 19 10:33
Has Trilby been converted by Terry and Co?

Or is it just 5G getting to his brain?
By:
John.W.Henry.
When: 01 Oct 19 10:41
Detroller.... I would tend to think that his critical thinking and open mind have taken centre stage. You might want to try it someday, If your belief system will allow it which somehow i very much doubt as you continue your never ending scamper around the hamster wheel Laugh.

Yet another scam the rank and file will be falling for as this thread indicates so well
By:
edy
When: 01 Oct 19 10:47
It's not critical thinking at all, JWH. It's blindly, sheepily repeating scientifically illiterate stuff. Stuff that is often so bad, so far from reality, that any critical thinking person, even without any scientific background, could debunk for himself within minutes.
By:
terry mccann
When: 01 Oct 19 10:48
She needs to get a grip,grow up and stop talking b0llocks they tell her to say
By:
detraveller
When: 01 Oct 19 11:23
John and Terry so quick to respond. They must have been waiting for me to post and then pounce upon the chance to discredit my words. They are the lowest form of human beings. But the bigger question is, who do they work for and who is paying them?

@John. Stop posting waffle and start posting your own ideas if you have. You might want to try it someday, If your belief system will allow it which somehow i very much doubt as you continue your never ending scamper around the hamster wheel.
By:
John.W.Henry.
When: 01 Oct 19 11:30
I dont agree with everything Terry says and quotes but I respect his opinions as he tries to see the big picture from out side of the box.

Round and round you go detroller. Must be like a fun fair to you but dont forget i have exposed you many times as a liar and a fraud so i cannot waste any more time on you,

Your German friend edy the eagle he is another so far removed from reality it actually hurts.

Watch the video. Its all there if you want to see it. How the world is being shaped and all in around 12 mins.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6JRKUr6D-wk&feature=youtu.be
By:
detraveller
When: 01 Oct 19 11:34
Once again you post only to sell your video.

I said come up with your own opinions and try to engage in a debate, But every time you make a blunder you disappear for a few days.

Good to know there are some things you don't agree on with terry. That's an improvement.

You'll get there.

Also edy is not my friend. Grant is my friend. And edy is just a fan of grant.
By:
edy
When: 01 Oct 19 11:37
We're not friends? Cry
By:
detraveller
When: 01 Oct 19 11:38
its complicated.
By:
edy
When: 01 Oct 19 11:41
You're going straight onto the block list, un-mate.
By:
detraveller
When: 01 Oct 19 11:45
ok.
By:
John.W.Henry.
When: 01 Oct 19 11:54
Detroller.. I dont disappear I just cannot enter debate with fools. Waste of time. I just present you with information to improve your understanding without claiming its my work. Your denial of obvious deceptions even though you are given countless avenues of evidence bores me to an extent that i cannot even respect your opinion anymore since you disrespected a guy on the 7/7 thread where you claimed there were no bombs even though the guy you were discussing it with had a friend you lost his leg Cry. If you deny this i will spend time and call it back up as you lost all credibility that day in my eyes as you thought it was all a joke !!! Incredible !!! Life must be so sheltered where you hide away in the middle of the mother country

Take your fan base and shove it where the sun dont shine for all i care.

I give you the bullets you can use them or simply shoot yourself in the air fone. Cry

Edy.. Maybe not a friend perhaps just a fiend Cry

Wasted enough time here i will leave it to you lot to chew the cud. Its all there if you want it .

Enjoy your daze,
By:
edy
When: 01 Oct 19 11:56
John.W.Henry. • October 1, 2019 11:30 AM BST
I dont agree with everything Terry says


What do you disagree with?
By:
detraveller
When: 01 Oct 19 11:59
i cannot even respect your opinion anymore since you disrespected a guy on the 7/7 thread where you claimed there were no bombs even though the guy you were discussing it with had a friend you lost his leg

1. It would be great if you had taken that denial as my opinion, and respected it(just like you do terry's)

2. It might be a very bad analogy but with the limited mental ability I have, would it be fair to say that if denying the london bombs is disrespectful to 'a friend who lost his leg', surely denying that planes hit the twin towers would be more than disrespectful to 'the family members of those who died'? I think you've dug another hole for yourself there Grin
By:
detraveller
When: 01 Oct 19 12:00
And congratulations, we've successfully turned another decent thread into a conspiracy nutters feckfest.
By:
detraveller
When: 01 Oct 19 12:01
By:
edy
When: 01 Oct 19 12:04
Soros, the Illuminati and the New World Order were mentioned pretty close to the top already.
By:
edy
When: 01 Oct 19 12:05
and the rest was vitriol
By:
detraveller
When: 01 Oct 19 12:11
Greta is confirmed illuminati:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uYKtk9pzst0

,
By:
edy
When: 01 Oct 19 12:16
Armor of God...christlich.

Hey, does it also seem to you like the biggest conspiracy headcases are often religious? Terry, despite his potty mouth, has talked about being Christian I think. Crippen, trilby, Injera, timbuctooth all Christian. Do you think there is a connection? Does being religious, or specifically an elderly Christian, make you more likely to be captured by the conspiracy nutcases on the internet? Does being an elderly religious man make you an easier target?
By:
GRANTCKING
When: 01 Oct 19 12:39
Grin hi
By:
edy
When: 01 Oct 19 12:50

Oct 1, 2019 -- 12:39PM, GRANTCKING wrote:


hi


Ok, there are always exceptions to the rule of course and massive conspiracy nutcases can also be young-ish atheists.

By:
GRANTCKING
When: 01 Oct 19 12:56
Laugh
By:
edy
When: 01 Oct 19 13:01
But I just noticed something else!

Grant, Crippen and also trilby are all Scottish/Gaels, McCann kind of sounds Gaelish as well. Is that a mere coincidence?
By:
terry mccann
When: 01 Oct 19 13:14
So why shouldn't he agree with me, everything ive said is true.
NWO DEPOPULATION
VACCINES
5G
CHEMTRAILS
HAARP
CERN
GMO FOODS
DEW

All TRUE.
By:
edy
When: 01 Oct 19 13:15
Well, John is the one who said he doesn't agree with everything you say.
By:
terry mccann
When: 01 Oct 19 13:16
Edy, yet another no mark troll on a nothing forum, why do I even answer it,i know I wont anymore.
By:
edy
When: 01 Oct 19 13:17
Everything I said in my previous post is 100% true.
By:
terry mccann
When: 01 Oct 19 13:21
I was talking about Trilby as it so happens, John sadly hasn't passed an opinion on 5G as yet, I very strongly suggests he looks into it very quickly, its mind blowingly evil, but then so are you Edy,thats all there is to it.
By:
detraveller
When: 01 Oct 19 13:21

Oct 1, 2019 -- 11:30AM, John.W.Henry. wrote:


I dont agree with everything Terry says and quotes but I respect his opinions as he tries to see the big picture from out side of the box. Round and round you go detroller. Must be like a fun fair to you but dont forget i have exposed you many times as a liar and a fraud so i cannot waste any more time on you, Your German friend edy the eagle he is another so far removed from reality it actually hurts. Watch the video. Its all there if you want to see it. How the world is being shaped and all in around 12 mins. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6JRKUr6D-wk&feature=youtu.be


I dont agree with everything Terry says and quotes

By:
detraveller
When: 01 Oct 19 13:22
Causing divisions between truth seekers. I may get a bonus for that.
By:
terry mccann
When: 01 Oct 19 13:24
Yes the elite starring the delightful George want to save mankind from itself-monumental b0llocks.
By:
edy
When: 01 Oct 19 13:24
I think John is just a paid agitator spy.
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