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By:
Reynard
When: 03 Jul 19 22:56
UBLE/REGY • July 3, 2019 10:48 PM BST
We are multi cultural whether we like it or not, we need to find someway for this to work.

But it doesn't work . It was a social experiment forced upon the people without their consent and it has failed miserably . Some cultures cannot live cheek by jowl without the break down of society . Some cultures are more compatible than others but if one culture has , at its very core , a belief that their culture has supremacy over all others then the consequences will be disastrous . That is a fact and the evidence is their for anyone to see should they wish to open their eyes .
By:
UBLE/REGY
When: 03 Jul 19 23:00
So what do you suggest Reynard….send them all back????

I do not think that would be politically acceptable


What other cultures think of themselves is irrelevant to me, only that they obey our laws
By:
STUDYFORM
When: 03 Jul 19 23:02

Jul 3, 2019 -- 10:56PM, Reynard wrote:


UBLE/REGY • July 3, 2019 10:48 PM BSTWe are multi cultural whether we like it or not, we need to find someway for this to work.But it doesn't work . It was a social experiment forced upon the people without their consent and it has failed miserably . Some cultures cannot live cheek by jowl without the break down of society . Some cultures are more compatible than others but if one culture has , at its very core , a belief that their culture has supremacy over all others then the consequences will be disastrous . That is a fact and the evidence is their for anyone to see should they wish to open their eyes .


Just like a flat-Earther proving his point!

You can find ANYTHING you want on the internet. You just need the intelligence to filter out what is and isn't real. Not just go with whoever or whatever matches your current belief. Or makes you buddies with someone you don't even know.

By:
Reynard
When: 03 Jul 19 23:04
It's ridiculous to even consider sending 'them' back anywhere , indeed many were born here (but born into their own culture)

It may be irrelevant to you , as it is to me , but it's not irrelevant to them . The problem is that some cultures believe that their 'laws' as written in scripture , supercede the law of their host country and therefore they don't feel obliged to obey them . Thus the breakdown of society .
By:
Reynard
When: 03 Jul 19 23:05
STUDYFORM - I don't believe the earth is flat , but that is neither here nor there really Confused
By:
Reynard
When: 03 Jul 19 23:07
........... That post that you copied and pasted . Why not debate the points I raise rather than the sweeping dismissal ?
By:
STUDYFORM
When: 03 Jul 19 23:15
I was drawing a comparison on your style of "debate".

Saying "That is a fact and the evidence is their for anyone to see should they wish to open their eyes"
leaves no room for debate, and is straight from the conspiracy theorists handbook!

I'm not saying you think the earth is flat. Just that trying ANY form of discourse is as pointless as trying to tell a flat-earther that the Earth isn't flat.

This has been caused by the internet and a lot of bored loners gathering support. Then their followers feeling the need to spread their (invented) word.
By:
Reynard
When: 03 Jul 19 23:15
STUDYFORM • July 3, 2019 10:54 PM BST
Yaxley is not good. In any way. He's a bit like a Collie (maybe not as bright) and his supporters are sheep who are happy to be rounded up in the same pen.

You make Mr Robinson sound like a religious leader Laugh
By:
Reynard
When: 03 Jul 19 23:17
Ok , omit the words 'fact' and tell me what you believe .
By:
STUDYFORM
When: 03 Jul 19 23:17
NO-one ever changes their mind about anything. They just get more forceful, more tribal and less reasonable.
This sums up the forum.

As for being a religious leader. Not quite, but there is far too much completely undeserved idolising for him.
By:
mouse muldoon
When: 03 Jul 19 23:20
He can turn water into whine.
By:
Reynard
When: 03 Jul 19 23:21
I am not forceful by nature and relish intellectual thoughts and reasoned discourse . So , where am I wromg in my assessment of 'multi-culturalism' ?
ps. I don't idolise anybody , least of all Mr Robinson who I deem to be an individual whos argument is probably valid yet doesn't know how to engage people from right across the spectrum .
By:
DenzilPenberthy
When: 03 Jul 19 23:23
STUDYFORM you are one of the ones who labels things either 'left or right' in this instance it's very simple,young girls have been groomed and raped in their 1000s by a particular segment of society that has been and is covered up nothing to do with politics reasoning or debate.
The only debate should come is determining why the cover up.
The Yaxley Lennon dislike is to distract from the mass rapists as there's no debate about that nothing to do with being tribal left,right or whatever.
By:
akabula
When: 03 Jul 19 23:26
I cant see many idolise him on here but he does deserve credit for helping expose the grooming gangs cover-up.
By:
Reynard
When: 03 Jul 19 23:27
Exactly my point . He tries too hard to appeal to the yobbish majority instead of addressing his genuine fears and concerns with people who do carry real influence .
By:
Baphornet
When: 03 Jul 19 23:29
it wouldn't get him anywhere, Reynard as the media would not allow it
By:
akabula
When: 03 Jul 19 23:29
Does TR have many troops? Thought he has about a dozen in tow.
By:
Baphornet
When: 03 Jul 19 23:30
you only have to look at previous attempts by different Partys to say anything
By:
mouse muldoon
When: 03 Jul 19 23:31
He had an army, now disbanded, but folk do say a leopard won't change his spots.
By:
UBLE/REGY
When: 03 Jul 19 23:31
He can turn water into whine. Tommy Robinson, yes he canLaugh
mouse Muldoon

As I have said Denzil , we must apply the law equally to everybody, we cannot lock people up for being Muslims

or any other ethnic group imo.


Yes it is obvious that some ethnic groups do struggle with our laws. If extra help can be given to some in their community

to deal with this fine.

But our country, our laws.
By:
Reynard
When: 03 Jul 19 23:33
He brags about having over a million followers on facebook and twitter but over 90% of those are lemmings who simply hit the 'like' button without really understanding the issues he raises , I mean really understand . If they aren't reminded of his existence via facebook alerts and given their short attention span they will soon drift away . Without a platform on social media he will be easily crushed and that will be the biggest travesty .
By:
Richie_Burnett
When: 03 Jul 19 23:36
DenzilPenberthy, I don't support right wing extremism or paedophilia. In my mind, the 2 are not mutually exclusive.
By:
akabula
When: 03 Jul 19 23:37
There is nothing to expose.

10 years in some cases before it was exposed and only because of the tenacity of people like TR.
Councillors and Police new about it but did nothing initially.
By:
Reynard
When: 03 Jul 19 23:39
There is nothing to expose. It's been exposed. The problem seems to be the solution, which seems to be anti-muslim, when patently most muslims had nothing to do with the rapes, just a few men.

You use the word 'patently' in a similar manner to my use of the word 'fact'
Given the close-knit community that is the Islamic community I suggest many within that particular community were FULLY AWARE of exactly what these 'few men' had done and continued to do and turned a blind eye rather than do what Anglo Saxons would describe as the decent thing and alert the authorities .
But maybe that's because the victims were from a subordinate culture to their own .
By:
Reynard
When: 03 Jul 19 23:42
STUDYFORM - You have actually given a very good example of the failings of the 'multi-cultural' experiment Happy
By:
Richie_Burnett
When: 03 Jul 19 23:46
Exactly STUDYFORM. Right wing fundamentalists serve only to muddy the water.

There are countless white paedophiles in every area. See the facebook group, "predator awareness Merthyr" and notice that a tiny, almost all white area of the so called "united kingdom" has it's fair share of nonces.
By:
Reynard
When: 03 Jul 19 23:47
Please can you provide a link which proves that Jewish men were raping and abusing under-age Aryan girls in 1930's Germany ?
By:
akabula
When: 03 Jul 19 23:48
In other words Reynard STUDYFORM is right and everybody else is wrong.
By:
STUDYFORM
When: 03 Jul 19 23:48
You CANNOT be debated with - which was why I use the flat-earth example.
NO words will do it, NO reasoning will do it.
By:
STUDYFORM
When: 03 Jul 19 23:48
If you like akabula.
By:
UBLE/REGY
When: 03 Jul 19 23:49
Reynard

It is not a multi cultural experiment, it is a reality!

We cannot make ourselves non multi cultural, we are in it, and need to find a solution.

This is the only option we have.
By:
Baphornet
When: 03 Jul 19 23:51
Ii find it hard to believe that Robinson can do an Adolf in this day & age. Especially when the actual Stasi State is already running the media
By:
Reynard
When: 03 Jul 19 23:51
I saw a documentary produced by one of the mainstream news channels regarding the Telford grooming scandal , in which the father of one of the guilty men spoke about how he told his son that these were "bad girls and he should have nothing to do with them" He clearly knew what his son was doing yet did nothing to either stop him or report him to the police . A clear example of knowledge of these activities withing the family and community .
By:
mouse muldoon
When: 03 Jul 19 23:52

Jul 3, 2019 -- 11:47PM, Reynard wrote:


Please can you provide a link which proves that Jewish men were raping and abusing under-age Aryan girls in 1930's Germany ?


wtf?

By:
Reynard
When: 03 Jul 19 23:53
UBLE - Exactly my point . It's too late , it cannot be undone nor repaired . There is no going back Sad
By:
STUDYFORM
When: 03 Jul 19 23:55

Jul 3, 2019 -- 11:47PM, Reynard wrote:


Please can you provide a link which proves that Jewish men were raping and abusing under-age Aryan girls in 1930's Germany ?


It is equivalent to the propaganda of 1930's Germany, which clearly said, the Jews have your jobs, they spread disease, they had their passports confiscated, they were not allowed into any decent jobs, and so on. Rapes weren't the reason, but a whole nation was made to hate them from constantly being told how bad they were.

By:
GRANTCKING
When: 03 Jul 19 23:55
You actually believe,that because they're muslim, they were telling their friends and family they were going out for a rape, or raping girls. And that's what muslims do, because they're close knit? They wouldn't bother keeping it quiet?

isnt that exactly what was happening? there was one girl in rotherham who was raped over 30 times in one night, there was a queue of filthy bastards lined up outside the bedroom to take their turn
By:
Reynard
When: 03 Jul 19 23:55
STUDYFORM • July 3, 2019 11:44 PM BST
Good, because and I know people don't believe this, but this is exactly what happened in Germany in the Early 1930's

Don't "wtf" me mouse ! I want evidence to prove that this statement is in any way factual .
By:
STUDYFORM
When: 03 Jul 19 23:56
You cannot be reasoned with. end of.
By:
mouse muldoon
When: 03 Jul 19 23:57
WTF?
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