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By:
lfc1971
When: 23 Dec 18 13:48
I might be wrong but , it is very unlikely in this case as you have described it
Almost impossible
By:
Reynard
When: 23 Dec 18 13:48
I haven't given any 'interpretation' of the case . I'll leave that to you (if you can be bothered) ....... which you can't , clearly PlainPlain
By:
lfc1971
When: 23 Dec 18 13:49
Maybe you should look again ?
By:
Reynard
When: 23 Dec 18 13:49
Maybe you should look , just ONCE !
By:
Reynard
When: 23 Dec 18 13:50
Reynard • December 23, 2018 1:56 PM GMT
lfc1971 • December 23, 2018 1:54 PM GMT
British law applies equally to all

In theory , yes ..... But in practice , NO

lfc1971 • December 23, 2018 1:57 PM GMT
any examples ?

Reynard • December 23, 2018 2:05 PM GMT
Melanie Shaw - incarcerated indefinitely without trial .
Her crime ? Highlighting the sexual abuse and murder of children within the Nottingham care home where she was resident .

lfc1971 • December 23, 2018 2:08 PM GMT
I don’t fell like looking into the case Reynard and I don’t believe your interpretation of it

This is precisely why you continue to post some of the most uninformed opinions on the forum
By:
lfc1971
When: 23 Dec 18 13:51
You’re the one who described the case Reynard , that was your ‘ interpretation ‘ and description of the case not mine
I don’t believe you know what you are talking about
By:
Reynard
When: 23 Dec 18 13:51
Reynard • December 23, 2018 1:56 PM GMT
lfc1971 • December 23, 2018 1:54 PM GMT
British law applies equally to all

In theory , yes ..... But in practice , NO

lfc1971 • December 23, 2018 1:57 PM GMT
any examples ?

Reynard • December 23, 2018 2:05 PM GMT
Melanie Shaw - incarcerated indefinitely without trial .
Her crime ? Highlighting the sexual abuse and murder of children within the Nottingham care home where she was resident .

lfc1971 • December 23, 2018 2:08 PM GMT
I don’t fell like looking into the case Reynard and I don’t believe your interpretation of it

This is precisely why you continue to post some of the most uninformed opinions on the forum
By:
lfc1971
When: 23 Dec 18 13:56
it’s like everything it’s a question of judgement , knowledge is not the same thing as understanding
That’s were you are going wrong Reynard
By:
lfc1971
When: 23 Dec 18 13:57
don’t allow yourself to believe anything else , it’s true
By:
Reynard
When: 23 Dec 18 13:59
Don't tell me where I'm going wrong , you uninformed , condescending individual Love
By:
Reynard
When: 23 Dec 18 14:00
Reynard • December 23, 2018 1:56 PM GMT
lfc1971 • December 23, 2018 1:54 PM GMT
British law applies equally to all

In theory , yes ..... But in practice , NO

lfc1971 • December 23, 2018 1:57 PM GMT
any examples ?

Reynard • December 23, 2018 2:05 PM GMT
Melanie Shaw - incarcerated indefinitely without trial .
Her crime ? Highlighting the sexual abuse and murder of children within the Nottingham care home where she was resident .

lfc1971 • December 23, 2018 2:08 PM GMT
I don’t fell like looking into the case Reynard and I don’t believe your interpretation of it

This is precisely why you continue to post some of the most uninformed opinions on the forum
By:
lfc1971
When: 23 Dec 18 14:08
sorry facts and not your interpretations and not your mad imaginings that’s what we need

too difficult ?
By:
lfc1971
When: 23 Dec 18 14:09
:) here he goes ...
By:
Reynard
When: 23 Dec 18 14:12
Reynard • December 23, 2018 1:56 PM GMT
lfc1971 • December 23, 2018 1:54 PM GMT
British law applies equally to all

In theory , yes ..... But in practice , NO

lfc1971 • December 23, 2018 1:57 PM GMT
any examples ?

Reynard • December 23, 2018 2:05 PM GMT
Melanie Shaw - incarcerated indefinitely without trial .
Her crime ? Highlighting the sexual abuse and murder of children within the Nottingham care home where she was resident .

lfc1971 • December 23, 2018 2:08 PM GMT
I don’t fell like looking into the case Reynard and I don’t believe your interpretation of it

This is precisely why you continue to post some of the most uninformed opinions on the forum
By:
Reynard
When: 23 Dec 18 14:14
If I have imagined the case of Melanie Shaw , then please feel free to inform me using your knowledge of the case Plain
By:
lfc1971
When: 23 Dec 18 14:14
I might take a little look later , I hope you aren’t talking nonsense Reynard
I suppose anythings possible , let’s see
By:
Reynard
When: 23 Dec 18 14:20
Reynard • December 23, 2018 1:56 PM GMT
lfc1971 • December 23, 2018 1:54 PM GMT
British law applies equally to all

In theory , yes ..... But in practice , NO

lfc1971 • December 23, 2018 1:57 PM GMT
any examples ?

Reynard • December 23, 2018 2:05 PM GMT
Melanie Shaw - incarcerated indefinitely without trial .
Her crime ? Highlighting the sexual abuse and murder of children within the Nottingham care home where she was resident .

lfc1971 • December 23, 2018 2:08 PM GMT
I don’t fell like looking into the case Reynard and I don’t believe your interpretation of it

This is precisely why you continue to post some of the most uninformed opinions on the forum
By:
impossible123
When: 23 Dec 18 15:16
They are no longer suspects. But the police have found a damaged drone; the mystery continues.
By:
ufcdan
When: 23 Dec 18 15:18
They are no longer suspects. But the police have found a damaged drone; the mystery continues.

Are these the two who have had their faces plastered all over the National press ? If so ker ching Cool
By:
akabula
When: 23 Dec 18 15:19
I hadn't heard of the Melanie Shaw case Reynard.
Watched a short vid there and it did seem very strange although the fact amnesty International aren't taking it up suggests it's not as clear cut as the vid I watched suggests.
Not got time just now but will definitely delve deeper later.
By:
Reynard
When: 23 Dec 18 15:27
akabula - I don't think anyone knows the full facts of the case (I have tried to delve deeper for more than a year) . Amnesty international may not have been given all the facts either .
What really grates me is when someone comes on here and says that the british justice system is fair and asks for evidence when I suggest it isn't and when I give an example (as requested twice) they turn round and say can't be bothered cos I'm 'putting my own interpretation on it' . How 'kin ignorant can you get and yet still choose to remain ignorant ?
The case of Melanie Shaw is just one example of injustice , but possibly one of the most disturbing .
By:
Injera
When: 23 Dec 18 15:58
Uh Oh!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Police have today been slammed for their 'appalling investigation' into the Gatwick chaos after they held a married couple for nearly two days without charge before admitting 'there may never have been a drone.' Shocked

Paul and Elaine Kirk-Gait returned to their home in Crawley, West Sussex this morning after spending more than 36 hours being questioned by detectives over the device that brought Gatwick Airport to a standstill.

As the culprit remains at large five days after the attack which grounded more than 1,000 flights and 14,000 passengers, police have been accused of failing to interview colleagues who could have vouched for the couple's whereabouts.

Friends and family repeatedly insisted the pair were not the 'Eco-warriors' behind the attack and claimed officers under pressure to get results 'hastily' arrested the wrong couple. 

As Sussex Police this afternoon confirmed they have found a 'damaged drone' close to Gatwick, Detective Chief Superintendent Jason Tingley said there was 'no available footage and they are relying on witness accounts.'

Daily Mail
By:
Injera
When: 23 Dec 18 16:01
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-6524457/Police-continue-quiz-double-glazing-worker-Gatwick-drone.html

Mr Allard added: 'I know Paul well, he's worked for me for 17 years and this is going to hit him like a 10-tonne truck. Paul Gait is as harmless as a bloody new born fly. He really is, he's the most inoffensive bloke you'll ever meet.

'Although there was a complete lack of evidence, the police ripped his house apart. He refers to me as a second father and he always comes to me if there are any problems in his life. I know this will mentally destroy him.

'Paul Gait doesn't own a drone. The drone he had he sold back in mid-summer. It was only a silly little one - anyone could have gone and bought in Hamleys.
Paul Gait, a double-glazing fitter, and his wife Elaine, from Crawley in West Sussex, today returned to their family home
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Paul Gait, a double-glazing fitter, and his wife Elaine, from Crawley in West Sussex, today returned to their family home

'Sussex Police have really dropped the ball on this. I have always supported the police and I like to think I always would but in this case I think they have really got it wrong.
By:
scandanavian_haven
When: 23 Dec 18 16:03
see how the 'freedom of the press' ruins peoples lives in nano seconds, but it's ok. as long as reynard's curiosity is satisfied lol.
By:
impossible123
When: 23 Dec 18 16:06
Sue the pants of these people at the media who'd blemished and/or libelled two innocent and unfortunate individuals courtesy of the inept and unprofessional behaviours and workings of the media people and the police.
By:
Ibrahima Sonko
When: 23 Dec 18 16:14
Was there ever a drone in the first place ?
By:
Injera
When: 23 Dec 18 16:20
Det Ch Supt Jason Tingley said there was no available footage of the drones and police were relying on witness accounts.

He added there was "always a possibility that there may not have been any genuine drone activity in the first place", but they were working on a range of information from members of the public, police officers and staff working at Gatwick who had reported otherwise.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-46665615

Crazy No available footage. Possibly no drone at all...???
By:
Baphornet
When: 23 Dec 18 16:20
Tingley said

"We are meticulously going through that information to see if that produces any other further lines of inquiry, and also where we may focus our efforts in terms of house-to-house inquiries, CCTV footage, and any other information that will help us work through this investigation."
He said there was no available footage of the drones and police were relying on witness accounts.
He added there was "always a possibility that there may not have been any genuine drone activity in the first place", but they were working on a range of information from members of the public, police officers and staff working at Gatwick who had reported otherwise.


"Meticulously going through" means in-between snooker games
By:
Injera
When: 23 Dec 18 16:23
This will keep the conspiracy theorists going for years (and rightly so).
By:
moisok
When: 23 Dec 18 16:23
yet again, another one of my games coming home  2  5 at the moment - foinavon might be interested
By:
thegiggilo
When: 23 Dec 18 16:24
Who do you think you are kidding mr hitler ExcitedLaugh
By:
Ibrahima Sonko
When: 23 Dec 18 16:25
I wonder when they will blame the russians.
By:
moisok
When: 23 Dec 18 16:28
If you are innocent but don't fit in the right box, or one has to be seen to be doing something after NOTHING has been done, you can be rest assured you will be in the frame.  And they wonder why people do no longer have much faith in ANYONE in authority.

There was no evidence, but we are going to frighten the fk out of you so we can get a PERCEIVED result.
By:
impossible123
When: 23 Dec 18 16:29
Or in-between tea breaks and biscuits. And "no available footage of the drones". Is that an inference a possibility of no drone/s existed in the sky? If confirmed I'd like to be there when this news is conveyed to the x'mas holiday makers whose flights were cancelled causing chaos to their x'mas arrangements.
By:
Baphornet
When: 23 Dec 18 16:32
the only surprise in this to me is; why have they come clean so early?
I have bombarded journos-hacks on twitter with the same questions i and others have asked on here, all of them (who answered) were very disparaging towards meCry My main line of attack has been "Where are the pictures" So it's quite pleasing that mr plod actually mention that particular fact now
By:
moisok
When: 23 Dec 18 16:33
you have to consider if one had arrested the wrong TYPE of person it may have upset one and led to a guardian headline of those who were offended

but this couple were ideal to take the heat off - but OH!!  Oooops!!!
By:
Injera
When: 23 Dec 18 16:33
No Cameras at Gatwick?????
By:
Injera
When: 23 Dec 18 16:36
Agree Baphornet...

Notice the line of reporting from the MSM. They're very wary of pointing the finger at the Old Bill/LGW despite massive evidence to the contrary.
By:
moisok
When: 23 Dec 18 16:40
they must think we are vegetables (remember Spitting Image)
By:
Baphornet
When: 23 Dec 18 16:40
Police are "Stepping up the pace of the inquiry" Snooker cancelled then
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