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Senior MET officer leads by example ...........
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Age has to taken into consideration , it’s a young mans game and Mackey May have been let down by his younger colleagues in the car ( if they were younger )
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Mackey had the authority to tell his subordinates to open the fckin door and help the other brave coppers. He didn't, he shat himself.
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Yes I think everyone realises that
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But if someone tells you to close the door it gives you an excuse , stops you momentarily makes you think if he hadn’t said that then things may have been different
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Anything like that can be enough , just the slightest thing
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He convinced himself in a fraction of a second that it was the right thing to do
Shouldn’t have been said |
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Well you said he may have been let down by his younger colleagues.
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I don't have a problem with Mackey crapping himself in the face of danger.
My issue is with a system that seems to think it's ok to give a Knighthood to a senior copper (why - he's paid enough!!) and by so doing make him think he's Field Marshal Monty and so important as to be kept safe. Deluded system. Deluded management. Meanwhile Palmer has his fists to defend himself against someone who wants to cut him up. |
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Yes, it was his younger colleague who gave him the excuse not to react as he might have done
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He didn’t think he was that important , not really
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We don't know what he might have done we do know what he didn't do. Anything else is an unfounded guess.
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lfc1971 • October 11, 2018 9:35 PM BST
Yes, it was his younger colleague who gave him the excuse not to react as he might have done Was it ? How do you know that ? |
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as I said , if they were younger
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Why didn't he try to get the driver to run the sack of sh1t over ?
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and as I said they ‘ may’ have let him down
And then as I said if someone said close the door that can be enough to make someone stop The brain subconsciously is looking for an excuse , it doesn’t have to even make sense ok with that ? |
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These are very basic principles , that’s why the army needs young men , not old men
It’s been that way forever and doesn’t change |
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How do we know that he was told to lock the car doors and stay put ?
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He sayed so
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That doesn't mean that it actually happened does it ?
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Reynard who said it did happen
I believe it did , I do think he would have said it if it didn’t Now you can believe what you like |
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I don’t think he would have said it if it didn’t happen
I don’t really care if you believe it or not |
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I seem to recall that every police officer on duty at Hillsborough on that fateful day changed their own , and others , statements to hide the truth , cos the truth means naff all to them .
In the case of Mackey there were only 3 people present in the car so it wouldn't have been very difficult to work out some story to lessen the impact of what he actually did or didn't do . |
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Now that doesn’t make any sense now does it ?
How exactly does that lesson the impact of what he did ? |
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that lesson
freydian |
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mais oui
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Just over a year ago a serving police officer , who I had only ever met once previously and didn't know my full name , made a statement naming myself and placing me somewhere that I hadn't been and wearing clothes I have never worn or possessed , acting 'suspiciously' . Add to that the fact that he described circumstances in which it would have been impossible to identify anybody ie. he was alone and negotiating a difficult junction in a dark , unlit area . When my solicitor asked if they had double checked using cctv in the area or if there were any independant witnesses to support his statement they ended the interview . This police officer is associated with somebody who I'd 'upset' and he probably owed them a 'favour' .
They are corrupt from top to bottom , but many people either accept it or refuse to believe it ................. until they find themselves on the receiving end  |
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so what?
You’re still not making any sense |
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Ok , fair enough , forget it .................
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now don’t sulk , it’s you who is talking nonsense
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Maybe I am but the point I am trying to make is that you cannot take anything the police state , either in a court or a public inquiry , because they have a long history of either distorting the truth or lying .
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i used to be a fan of plod
not now corrupt throughout |
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The country is corrupt throughout , much worse than the police from top to bottom of society
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Capt_F - Many of our generation (that's an assumption btw) who were brought up to respect the police and only to fear them if you were breaking the law .
Now many of us have no respect for the police and even fear them where there has been no criminal offence committed . This change in perception has not occurred by accident , it is based on historical evidence and in some cases personal experience . lfc - 11.43 - I agree totally , but the police are supposed to uphold the law against crime and corruption , therefore police corruption is far more serious . |
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The have to switch the tv off to stop listening to the lying *****
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I have stared down the barrel of a loaded gun on more than one occasion , yet sitting in a police cell wondering how you are going to defend yourself against downright lies rates as the most scary thing I have ever faced
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On This Week Portillos "Moment of the week" is on the subject of the epidemic of the police witholding evidence / information in order to get convictions of innocent people....
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When I presented evidence that proved that I was actually the victim of a property fraud they totally ignored the evidence and charged me with offences relating to how I acquired the evidence !
When I was released on bail I returned to find a car , belonging to one of the fraudsters , waiting outside my flat and had to make my way to a friends to stay in relative safety for a couple of days . How did they know what time I was going to be released ? Can't be proved though I think it's blindingly obvious . |
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And when my flat was raided they took my spare keys but they have not returned them and have denied they removed them . I no longer feel safe in my own home ffs
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yes the portillo thing was rather frightening but then many already knew of the scandal
what on earth can an individual do when faced with this - judge and jury will believe the polis |