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Disrespect for religion, including Islam, should be at the heart of feminism. In my view, all fundamentalist religion is hell for women, but Islam is somehow given a free pass by the very progressives that would not think twice about marching through London to protest the Pope’s visit, or expressing outrage at orthodox Jewish men refusing to sit next to women on flights. We need to ask ourselves why, when so many women, desperate to escape religious tyranny, are being betrayed by some of the very people that should be standing with them?
https://unherd.com/2018/04/many-left-wing-progressives-protest-pope-silent-islams-totalitarian-tendencies-victims-cowardice-overwhelmingly-women/ How do the 'progressives' like Pineapple respond to stuff like the above? |
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its the million dollar question that nobody is answering, and the feminists are all avoiding
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How the hell does a culture integrate when half of their number hide behind the mask of anonymity
That is simply not true. Most do not wear the gear so I guess disagree with what it represents. |
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Ok , maybe not half , but a significant percentage nonetheless .
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Depends where you live, I would estimate 90% at Asda in Dewsbury, the only place I come across em in numbers.
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In Sweden criminals have taken to wearing niqabs to disguise themselves, because masks are banned
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a pal of mine read out a story from the sun a few years ago. a saudi chap had decided he wanted to divorce his wife, who i think he hadnt met prior to his wedding day, having only just married her. his reason? after the wedding she took her veil off and she had a beard
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I can only assume that due to his sheltered upbringing he failed to distinguish between a bush and a Brazilian and simply assumed it was a beard
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Sadly a woman with a thick beard is a rarity these days
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Shami chucklebutty looks like Jimmy Edwards if you hide her bic for a week.
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Making jokes of it leads to investigations - I do think we are on the slippery slope (must not use that either)
Sorry I think we are already well down it. |
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Great article in the Spectator ...
"When Boris Johnson mocks the niqab, he is emphatically not mocking Muslim women because – and this is a point that we Muslims seem to be unable to get across to non-Muslims – there is no basis in Islam for the niqab. Claiming otherwise is a profound distortion of Islamic belief." https://blogs.spectator.co.uk/2018/08/as-a-muslim-woman-id-like-to-thank-boris-johnson-for-calling-out-the-niqab/ |
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saddo • August 9, 2018 6:06 PM BST
Depends where you live, I would estimate 90% at Asda in Dewsbury, the only place I come across em in numbers. Ya dont venture on the road to Batley much then saddo ? |
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Quite incredible that they can go walking around like that and think that people shouldn’t be rude and pass comment
It’s insane really when you think about it , can you imagine the shock the first time a youngster spots one on the streets ! Why it’s not considered a form of child cruelty for a mother to be dressed like that is something else that should be addressed |
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scaredy, I am a quite regular visitor to spoons at Batley. Not much danger of seeing any round there, they'll all be up the road at Tesco.
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rowan Atkinson wades in calling it a good joke ,forgetting all the rest but am I missing something
sky ,bbc etc keep showing post boxes , letter boxes are on doors, post boxes are bright red and the letter slots on doors are usually in the middle or nearer the bottom, so doesn't really work as a joke imo |
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https://metro.co.uk/2018/08/10/rowan-atkinson-backs-boris-johnson-ever-apologise-bad-joke-7821391/
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^ Should Boris Johnson apologise?
69% of 3000 voters say NO |
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Mr Blair said the issue of the veil, and the larger issue of the integration of Muslims in society, was an issue facing almost every country in Europe.
"Difficult though these issues are, they need to be raised and confronted," he said. Perhaps most controversially, Mr Blair said there was also an issue, which was apparent across Europe, about how Islam "comes to terms and is comfortable with" the modern world. When asked at the news conference if a Muslim woman wearing a veil could make a contribution to society, he replied: "That's a very difficult question. "It is a mark of separation and that is why it makes other people from outside the community feel uncomfortable. "We have to deal with the debate," he said. "People want to know that the Muslim community in particular, but actually all minority communities, have got the balance right between integration and multiculturalism." https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2006/oct/17/immigrationpolicy.schools 12 years ago Mr Blair highlighted the issue. We still have not had the debate as country. |
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Bliar would be clearly ray cyst then????
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You cannot hold a historical figure to today's standards.
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once the demographic shifts to the higher percentile you will not be allowed to discuss it as it will come under hate crime - why do you think their are so many polis on hate crime now (900) and little man boasts about it(sod the violence on the street)
the demographic has changed and so has the emphasis of policing you policing has become even more political we are entering new territory one senior copper said on sky (pleased as punch) how they were switching to cyber crime and hate crime so there would be a lot less polis on the street - that is why you don't see so many of them what nasty smugness!! |
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Whatever happened to "Je Suis Charlie?"
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I,ll have my two pennies worth again although the liberal southern snowflakes wont like or believe it,me and my ilk should be interviewed,question by the snowflakes,
I,m your average face of joe public in the north east,went to secvondary school,learned a trade,spent 40 years in and around the steelworks,had a football season tkt for most of them 40 years,go horseracing once ,twice a month,done the night club,pub,social club thing in my early years 4,56, nights a week, umpteen holidays abroad, married with a son, now he,s the rub I,m 59 and have never in my whole life had a even a 30 second conversation with anything other than a white uk national and most of my close family would say the same,dont think ive missed out on much and would rather stick pins in my eyes than entertain the thought of trying to converse with someone wearing a burkaha etc , and I,m sure theres millions in the same boat as myself |
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way cyst ho ho that's putt you in yore plaice
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1st Time Poster : good for you, you've done absolutely nothing wrong there. Millions of people in this country would be glad to have you as a neighbour.
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How do the 'progressives' like Pineapple respond to stuff like the above?
Well he usually posts a silly face. |
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It's right at the top of this page PP.
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Apologies doc. Apologies IT. Apologies everyone. Must have missed my attention being demanded.
Disrespect for religion, including Islam, should be at the heart of feminism. In my view, all fundamentalist religion is hell for women, but Islam is somehow given a free pass by the very progressives that would not think twice about marching through London to protest the Pope’s visit, or expressing outrage at orthodox Jewish men refusing to sit next to women on flights. We need to ask ourselves why, when so many women, desperate to escape religious tyranny, are being betrayed by some of the very people that should be standing with them? Well I'd say it's a load of old arse frankly. I'm not pro-Islam firstly. I'm not pro-any religion. Fairy tales. That's all they are. My defence of women wearing burqas or hijabs was explained yesterday. It's not on religious grounds. It's pretty simple really. If someone for whatever reason chooses to wear it then it's no business of mine. Not got a problem. Now - again, as said yesterday, if anyone has any evidence that a woman is being forced to wear it against her will, then by all means do something about it. But, despite this board full of old white men with predominantly anti-Islamic views who are suddenly taking a keen interest in the lives of Muslim women, I'm yet to hear an account of someone having a conversation and finding out if that's the case. Some geordie proudly stated he's never even spoken to anyone who's not white so I guess he's out. As for the rest of the selected piece, I can't speak for anyone else but I wouldn't dream of protesting the Pope's visit, seems a pretty nice fella really and I'm tempted to learn more about becoming Jewish if it gets me out of sitting next to the missus for 11 hours in a couple of weeks. But it's just the usual right wing snowflakery really. Quite pathetic. The idea that every muslim woman is somehow forced to defend other people who are suffering tyranny rather than just go out and meet their mates for a coffee and not worry if their clothing is not representing someone else's plight. I've seen a couple of pieces (again carefully selected) from Muslims who are against the burka. Again, good for them. It's a free country. But I've also read plenty explaining why they choose to wear it. Again, it's a free country. I was thinking this morning what this page was reminding me of. Closest I could get was a few years ago when I'd be taking our little one to playgroups in the morning. Generally I'd be the only bloke there and would try to be sociable but would inevitably end up reading a paper or flicking through my phone. But some of the conversations. Everyone just judging everyone else. Someone's done this to their house. Someone's been missing for two weeks and now has fewer wrinkles. And then there are the hysterical crime wave chats. Someone saw a van drive slowly up a road and suddenly there's a gang of child molesters out dragging kids into their vans. Yeah, that's what this place reminds me of currently. You really need to stop worrying about what a bunch of women are choosing to wear in my opinion. |
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As the writer said all the fake diversity liberals like Pineapple id doing is 'giving more power to conservative Muslim men who seek to impose Islamic law on women and girls.'
It makes people like PP feel better to say they are tolerant but personally I am not tolerant to real misogynistic actions. |
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I rarely agree with PorP, in fact normally I disagree vehemently, but on this subject - and let's be clear on this subject alone - he is correct.
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If lefties are so keen to embrace ever-expanding islam, leading inevitably to global sharia, positively enabling and even subsidising the advent of `convert or die`, I presume they`re all posting from Tehran? If not, if islam is to be so welcomed, why not?
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Oh dear.
It seems The Guardian newspaper and the BBC both mocked the burqa, and criticised it YEARS before Johnson did. Are they going to launch a fearless week-long attack on themselves, and demand resignations? . https://order-order.com/2018/08/10/bbc-guardian-also-mocked-burka/ |
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Not worried about what women are wearing at all PP.
I'm worried about my rights to free speech and humour being taken away. I see the burka and the veil as a constant reminder to the public, about what kind of people we are dealing with here. |
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Polly Toynbee gets in on the act of Muslim bashing as well alun2005.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jf8uYue1vtk
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To be fair, i dont think anyones free speech has been taken away. Last week nobody was talking about burkas, this week loads of people are.
The only thing really under threat is boris' job and i imagine hes fine with the current situation. |
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detraveller..that was one of the unfuniest clip i have ever seen.
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To be fair, i dont think anyones free speech has been taken away.
Go back a few decades and witness the use of the N word and the P word, along with a whole dictionary full of racially descriptive words. Use words like that in public now and you'll be arrested. That is loss of free speech. Restrictions of free speech are on going, which is why people are having a go at Boris. They're trying to shut up all criticism of Muslims by seeking to make an example of him. |
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who's they exactly?
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