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By:
Facts
When: 07 Jul 18 10:37
You're basing your information on what you can Google as well as worldwide and historic/ geographical stats.

Mine are gleaned straight from BBC news reports, about Salisbury/Wiltshire .
On the spot narrative, stated as ' facts' , either by the reporter at the time, or some ' expert' wheeled in to venture forth his/her wisdom.
Depending on which news report you listen to , or what time of day, or day of the week. They invariably are different and more often than not contradict each other.

So what/ which is the TRUTH and what/which is LIES.

I await your answer lfc1971
By:
lfc1971
When: 07 Jul 18 10:40
It’s a question of judgement , and what people say
You see when I read what you say I don’t trust it
Why ? because of what you say , you haven’t bothered to answer my question I notice
By:
Facts
When: 07 Jul 18 10:41
Ditto
By:
lfc1971
When: 07 Jul 18 10:45
You see that’s wrong now isn’t it ? now take a closer look

And there are 4 ) questions for you , go ahead and answer if you can
Let’s see...
By:
detraveller
When: 07 Jul 18 10:46
@Facts, I told you it was a trap.
By:
lfc1971
When: 07 Jul 18 10:47
suggest you ignore detraveller , when he doesn’t understand something he thinks it’s a trap
By:
terry mccann
When: 07 Jul 18 10:56
Why would the British Government buy the double agent and the Policeman"s home in Salisbury? Now that's a firstConfused
By:
Facts
When: 07 Jul 18 10:59
One last try.As you are either thick or are being deliberately obtuse. In either case I'm now very bored.

You state you don't trust what I say..

But it's not me saying it !!

The contradicting information is being relayed to the general public by the hourly news reports.

Therefore it follows, you don't trust it either.

I'm glad we agree.

Enjoy the rest of this sunny day.
By:
lfc1971
When: 07 Jul 18 11:02
if they did why not  ? He may still have been working as British agent whatever I do t know

Just the 4 ) outstanding questions  facts  doesn’t sen to want to answer
Let’s see
By:
lfc1971
When: 07 Jul 18 11:06
Facts let me explain again  , I listen carefully to what everyone says
Even you , that’s why I don’t trust what you say , because I have listened ,
Understand ?
By:
terry mccann
When: 07 Jul 18 11:14
Facts, ifc knows that there is an agenda against the Russian by the yanks and UK to make them look demonic,blame them for everything. He knows this story is a pile of streaming sh1t,that the Russians were not involved,but he will try to back it up to the hilt,laughable I know.
By:
northanlite
When: 07 Jul 18 11:48
how many of the Russian/USA leadership are lizard shapeshifter types terry or are they leading the fight against them?
By:
TELL DEL
When: 07 Jul 18 11:54
Before you accuse someone at least show the evidence. NO evidence has been proved that the Russian Government ordered the attack in Salisbury. Some people are still sceptical about this rush to blame Russia. Coincidental these 2 poisonings occur near Porton Down (?) I think someone pointed out to our Government that if you take some letters out of Salisbury you can spell Russia. It's so obvious..... what more evidence do you need......Crazy
By:
terry mccann
When: 07 Jul 18 12:01
Just puppets north you cheeky boy
By:
northanlite
When: 07 Jul 18 12:12
i kinda of agree with much of your cynicism terry. i am just not sure who to be more cynical about.
The Russians are just about shading it right now.
I can't get with the lizard/hollow moon stuff tho, my wee brain can't copeCool
By:
terry mccann
When: 07 Jul 18 12:19
As Putin said"if we wanted them dead they"d be dead" I kinda believe that, an open mind is good North,at least you look into things
By:
northanlite
When: 07 Jul 18 12:26
wow what an admission from a man who claims they don't assassinate people. "we don't but if we did we would be 100% effective"

they are scary fekkers them ruskies
By:
Reynard
When: 07 Jul 18 12:29
Firstly , Just for the record , I'm thinking along similar lines to 'Facts' .

Secondly , anyone who bases their opinion/argument on so-called 'information' gleaned from National Media outlets is essentially going to believe whatever they're told to believe .
By:
Facts
When: 07 Jul 18 12:33
We await the results of the tests by PD as to wether this latest ' poisoning by Novichock ' is from the same batch as that reported to have infected the Skripals. If it isn't , then we have fresh new production in circulation.
And as these latest ' victims' have nothing to do with Russia, the focus swings to the most likely source !

Be very embarrassing if it turns out to be a ' rogue ' lab technician at PD.!!
By:
detraveller
When: 07 Jul 18 12:34

Jul 7, 2018 -- 12:26PM, northanlite wrote:


wow what an admission from a man who claims they don't assassinate people. "we don't but if we did we would be 100% effective"they are scary fekkers them ruskies


He didn't claim they don't assassinate people. He just said we didn't in this case, but if it was us, they'd be dead.

There's a difference between we don't and we didn't. Did Putin say we don't kill people? or did he say we didn't try to kill in these two cases?

By:
Reynard
When: 07 Jul 18 12:38
Facts - Why are you awaiting the results of the tests being carried out at Porton Down ? What will that tell you ?
By:
terry mccann
When: 07 Jul 18 12:42
"If we wanted" admits to nothing
By:
detraveller
When: 07 Jul 18 12:42
Basically Putin was p1ssed that someone carried out a **** job in poisoning someone and blamed it on the Russians.
By:
northanlite
When: 07 Jul 18 12:42

Jul 7, 2018 -- 12:34PM, detraveller wrote:


Jul  7, 2018 -- 12:26PM, northanlite wrote:wow what an admission from a man who claims they don't assassinate people. "we don't but if we did we would be 100% effective"they are scary fekkers them ruskiesHe didn't claim they don't assassinate people. He just said we didn't in this case, but if it was us, they'd be dead.There's a difference between we don't and we didn't. Did Putin say we don't kill people? or did he say we didn't try to kill in these two cases?


thanks for clearing that up. everything seems fine now.
if they did do it i assume the failed assassins are "no longer employed"

By:
detraveller
When: 07 Jul 18 12:43
I would assume so too.
By:
northanlite
When: 07 Jul 18 12:43

Jul 7, 2018 -- 12:42PM, terry mccann wrote:


"If we wanted" admits to nothing


i love the idea this seems too far fetched for you Laugh

By:
dave1357
When: 07 Jul 18 12:44
they killed the women and children on MH17 pretty efficiently.  And then released various different versions of absurd lies.  Ending with their usual "it was a biased enquiry".
By:
Facts
When: 07 Jul 18 12:44
If tested, the results will show wether it's the same batch. Or not
I accept that what will be given out as the official press statement, may not be factual. Sad
By:
northanlite
When: 07 Jul 18 12:47
lets be honest this is such an insane story and completely out of anyone on here's ken.
apart from terry of course who seems to know the real truth about pretty much everything.
By:
detraveller
When: 07 Jul 18 12:49
The funniest thing for me was what I read a few days back on a thread when someone pointed out that the only reason Russia is managing a trouble free world cup is because Putin is so bad he has scared his thugs into submission.

Why do we even bother with the proof when we are so convinced Putin is bad?
By:
terry mccann
When: 07 Jul 18 12:51
Oddly enough Dave the Russians want a joint enquiry into this matter,our Government doesn't want to know,your thoughts on that one
By:
terry mccann
When: 07 Jul 18 12:53
North I just want good old fashion evidence because so far we haven't had a drop
By:
Reynard
When: 07 Jul 18 12:55
Facts - ........ is the correct answer .
There is , of course , the likelihood that they are , in fact , already in possession of the facts in as much as they produced the bloody stuff in the first place . This investigation , in order to ascertain the real truth , should be carried out independently . This way we may establish the REAL truth and not be fed another load of fake 'evidence' .
By:
northanlite
When: 07 Jul 18 13:01
i can see why people admire Putin. a lot of folk have a real hard on for authoritarian government thinking it
will crack down on crime and solve any number of social ills, which in the sort term it often does. Longer term
it starts to fall apart and to hang on to that power the government becomes ever more authoritarian, ever more brutal,
the inner circle or power ever smaller. Be careful what you wish for you may find yourself on the wrong side of it.

If you have not already you should watch the film "The Death of Stalin" supposed to be a comedy but utterly chilling
in the depiction of a dictatorship and the power vacuum thereafter.

“Democracy is the worst form of government, except for all the others.”
― Winston S. Churchill
By:
Reynard
When: 07 Jul 18 13:02
There is an investigation taking place into the cover-up of child abuse within the Met . The police officer heading this panel is the same police officer who , according to John Wedger , blocked him from carrying out his investigation by making threats against him and his family .
The Government Advisor for Corporate Responsibility and the Chairman of the Board of Carillion are the same person !

How are we going to get to the truth when the people being investigated are running the investigation ?
By:
detraveller
When: 07 Jul 18 13:07
north, I do not in any way have a hard on for Putin. But:

1. When a government that has invaded and bombed countries based on lies tells me Russia is planning to bomb some country, I am inclined to think Russia is a world player too, and hence should be lying and bombing, just like the UK. So at worse they are as bad as the country calling them bad.

2. When the same govt blames Russia of carrying out chemical attacks on their soil but doesn't bother providing proof, doesn't agree to a joint investigation, I am inclined to think that its probably another lie to keep their own sheep busy, and Putin may not have anything to do with it, no matter how bad he is.

If I was a Putin fan, i'd be telling you how he has protected his people from the refugees, while you have paid for the same to be imposed upon you. Or maybe the refugees were also a russian conspiracy?
By:
northanlite
When: 07 Jul 18 13:07
never said you did, but a lot of people clearly do
By:
detraveller
When: 07 Jul 18 13:10
The only thing I admire about Putin is that he doesn't act like a good guy. If he is a thug, he makes sure you know he is a thug. Can't say the same about western leaders.
By:
northanlite
When: 07 Jul 18 13:11

Jul 7, 2018 -- 1:10PM, detraveller wrote:


The only thing I admire about Putin is that he doesn't act like a good guy. If he is a thug, he makes sure you know he is a thug. Can't say the same about western leaders.


WTF???

By:
detraveller
When: 07 Jul 18 13:11
Grin
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