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By:
lfc1971
When: 06 Jul 18 00:01
You’re welcome
By:
Reynard
When: 06 Jul 18 00:08
Hey ! The pleasures all mine , friend Love
By:
lfc1971
When: 06 Jul 18 00:11
not at all , my nature inclined me to treat people well
By:
Reynard
When: 06 Jul 18 00:13
You have such a wonderful philosophy . This forum doesn't deserve your kind . We are blessed indeed Love
By:
lfc1971
When: 06 Jul 18 00:20
Well I suppose that could be true , anythings possible
but I doubt it
By:
lfc1971
When: 06 Jul 18 00:23
I think it’s more likely you have a defective or mediocure gift of understanding Reynard
By:
Reynard
When: 06 Jul 18 00:26
I do soooooo hope you're right , I do think I'm quite perceptive by nature Happy
By:
lfc1971
When: 06 Jul 18 00:29
: ) forget all that nonsense
Except for the big about you and people like you being in Stalin’s famous words ...
useful idiots
That’s true
By:
Reynard
When: 06 Jul 18 00:34
Such kind words , whatever they mean , thanks Love
Well , the staff retired to their quarters half an hour ago so I'm off to bed myself now . August will soon be upon us and I'm interviewing for beaters tomorrow in preparation for the Glorious Twelfth .
If you're at a loose end next month lfc1971 maybe you would like to join the guns for a mornings sport . As my special guest .
By:
moisok
When: 06 Jul 18 10:45
Deep in the middle of a guardian article

The Kremlin has denied any involvement in the latest incident and the Russian embassy in London renewed its offer to take part in a joint investigation with the UK.


so they offered once and are offering again

why is the uk ignoring this and also why is this not mentioned in Sky's attack on russia
By:
detraveller
When: 06 Jul 18 11:06
I only just realized there has been another poisoning. Funny they can sense Saddam and Assad's fake chemical weapons from hundreds of miles away but can't smell a novichok at home Laugh
By:
TELL DEL
When: 06 Jul 18 11:20
Seems certain that these 2 were accidental stumblers. Who's to say the Skripals weren't accidental stumblers ? Strip out the description 'Russian spy' and you've got an ordinary father and daughter.

Skripal spent 4 years in Russian prison. Why would Russia wait until he is in the UK before trying to kill him ? Doesn't make sense or maybe there is a part of the story I've missed, (removing my deerstalker).
By:
moisok
When: 06 Jul 18 11:23
russia offered to get involved with the investigation

why does the uk not cooperate  or have they something to hide

seems rather odd given that russia made the stuff  or is it not the stuff they made but a variant??
By:
moisok
When: 06 Jul 18 11:25
THAFC
By:
detraveller
When: 06 Jul 18 11:28
Let's not forget UK's last outcry over the chemical attack in Syria was also a lie.
By:
terry mccann
When: 06 Jul 18 12:02
"Please be advised-according to the production notes from British Propaganda Productions they have the right to change the ending of the Skirpal Affair 2,or in fact the whole story if they manufacture,oops sorry,find other evidence particularly if it comes from gossip,rumour,tittle-tattle,old wives tales,British Intelligence or other equally reliable sources"
By:
Whisperingdeath
When: 06 Jul 18 17:42
the greatest field general ever - NAPOLEON - he wPossibly as good at foul deeds - and confusing the enemy


Care to defend your Midget on the grounds he was just a pounder?

Alexander The Great
Erwin Rommel
Marshall Zhukov
Shaka Zulu
Douglas Haig ( Doh only joking! )
Julius Ceasar
von Manstein
Genghis Khan
Tamerlane
Saladin
Themistocles
John Churchill
Sun Tzu
oh and Arfur Wellesley

to name but a few...and he had a small .****
By:
Whisperingdeath
When: 06 Jul 18 17:45
also reynard

you said the evidence is there.

Could you kindly show me some of it? Serious question.

I heard the wireless this morning and allegedly the creator of novichok said that it would have broken down by now and beem harmless.

I don't have a view or knowledge on this subject but if someone does, please share it!
By:
Reynard
When: 06 Jul 18 17:58
Sorry , can't be arsed to scroll through to find my post . Can you please refresh me in relation to context and then I'll address your point .
Thanks in advance , Reynard .
By:
Whisperingdeath
When: 06 Jul 18 18:03
will do but defend the midget while I look!
By:
Reynard
When: 06 Jul 18 18:04
Thanks for that . I will do ......... I think
By:
1st time poster
When: 06 Jul 18 18:05
cant be anything to do with Russia,wio Ferdinand in every paper shaking hands ,fawning over putin, unless we,re going to bar Ferdinand from returning back to the uk
By:
Whisperingdeath
When: 06 Jul 18 18:05
oh and I am available for shooting on the twelfth but I only shoot cans, Americans, Jamaicans, Africans etc
By:
Reynard
When: 06 Jul 18 18:07
If he's been charged with rape , then I would imagine there is forensic evidence to support this allegation .

This bit ? Ok dissect away Happy
By:
1st time poster
When: 06 Jul 18 18:12
a week ago it was a millions to one chance to come into contact with novochok, so must be zillions to one that the people who do are homeless drug users, couple of patsys used as cannon fodder in a far bigger game, imo
By:
Whisperingdeath
When: 06 Jul 18 18:13
Sorry Reynard, can't find the reference but I have had four pints and a few rums and can't find my glasses.

Can we just have a row on Napoleon please although to be fair I may not be able to reply tonight!
What about Michel Ney...Bravest of the Brave? I'd like to think so!
By:
Reynard
When: 06 Jul 18 18:15
I thought it was Marshall Ney ?
By:
Whisperingdeath
When: 06 Jul 18 18:21
yes it was! Very funny!

I am going to cricket.

We will row over the Midget next week. I have to work this weekend because I am not great at gambling. I am not great at arguing about Generals either to be fair but there are some on here that know a thing or two.
By:
Reynard
When: 06 Jul 18 18:24
Go on , scuttle off . Always best to retreat when you haven't got a cat in hells of winning the argument . Just like your bloody little Napoleon ! Silly
By:
Facts
When: 07 Jul 18 09:02




1) So Novichok is deadly, but hasn't killed anyone

2) Should kill in seconds, but takes 5 hours to show symptoms.

3) Can survive 4 months in the wilderness, but can't survive a baby wipe.

4) lives next door to Porton Down, but comes from Russia



The public is being fed nonsense on a daily basis.
By:
terry mccann
When: 07 Jul 18 09:17
One of the worst parts of it all is that the Government really thick we are so thick as to believe this b0llocks, Boris said boycott the World Cup on lies,very nice thanks. Wouldn't trust him to run a fish n chip shop in an area that loves fish n chips
By:
lfc1971
When: 07 Jul 18 09:34
Before Scripal and his daughter the only other person confirmed to suffer the effects of novichok was a young soviet chemical weapons scientist
He had a hood malfunction when working on the nerve agent

“ circles appeared before my eyes , red and orange. A ringing in the ears, I caught my breath and a sense of fear that something was about to happen , I sat down on a chair and told the guys it’s got me “

It didn’t kill him in seconds , it a little less than a year
By:
lfc1971
When: 07 Jul 18 09:40
So that takes care of points 1 and 2 in facts post
point 3 is meaningless
point 4 , yes that is where they lived , if they lived in London so what ?
By:
detraveller
When: 07 Jul 18 09:50
Funny isn't it lfc that you waste no time in telling everyone how bad the russians are, but conveniently use a russian scientist's words as the truth to further your own point Grin
By:
lfc1971
When: 07 Jul 18 10:02
detraveller Solzentsyn was Russian , it depends what people say , you see if a Russian scientist or indeed any other Russian citizen tells me that Gaguran was the first man in space I am inclined to believe them , even though they are Russian , I’m like that
By:
lfc1971
When: 07 Jul 18 10:04
Now if you think the Russian chemical weapons scientist was telling lies , or didn’t die , or didn’t exist
That’s up to you
By:
Facts
When: 07 Jul 18 10:15
lfc1971    07 Jul 18 09:40 
So that takes care of points 1 and 2 in facts post
point 3 is meaningless
point 4 , yes that is where they lived , if they lived in London so what ?


Oh dear !

Let's go through the points again shall we, slowly this time, so you understand.

1) No one has died in the two case occurring in Salisbury and surrounding areas. Ok ?
2) We're told by ' experts' that this is the most deadly of nerve agents and will kill in seconds.
     We are then told by ' experts ' that it won't kill instantly, and it can take 5 hours for symptoms to appear. Ok ?
3) Experts then tell us it can remain deadly for months, lying in the sun ,cold,dry and rain and will still be there.
     But, say experts, don't worry if you think you may have been in an area that may have contaminated your   handbag,your clothes ,your glasses etc. Just wipe them clean with a wet cloth/ soapy water.Ok ?
4) The two separate incidents involving 4 people and so called  Novichock has actually occurred in towns located near to PD. ( I.e NOT in London ) They didn't live in London. Ok ?

Hope this helps !!
By:
lfc1971
When: 07 Jul 18 10:23
Oh dear let’s explain again

1 )  no one has died in Salisbury but one person has died in Russia
So what is your point

2) the only known death did not take 5 sec it took just less than a year
So what is your point

3) obviously it is possible that if you clean the area then you will not be contaminated , but if it is not cleaned then it remains dangerous for some time
So what is your point

4) the Russian spies lived in that area , so did the two others
So what is your point ?
By:
detraveller
When: 07 Jul 18 10:24
@Facts, It's a trap.
By:
lfc1971
When: 07 Jul 18 10:26
Go ahead facts , let’s see
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