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By:
akabula
When: 03 Jun 18 21:41
breahing the peace was a contempt of court

No it wasn't. The breach of the peace charge was dealt with separately.
By:
InsiderTrader
When: 03 Jun 18 21:53
donny osmond
03 Jun 18 20:49
Joined: 02 Mar 08
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surely if he had his own solicitor or barrister he who have warned him after his suspended sentence ?



we've had all that on the thread before it

are you aware of legal procedure in uk?

^


You have cases of people taking films inside the court or doing their own research on defendants when they are on jury service or contacting defendants while on the jury getting less time in prison.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-44307037
By:
donny osmond
When: 03 Jun 18 21:56
lol akabula
By:
InsiderTrader
When: 03 Jun 18 22:01
Donny do you have a link to the current list of on going cases subject to these extra restrictions?
By:
donny osmond
When: 03 Jun 18 22:02
which extra restrictions ?

if there are reporting restrictions it cant be reported
By:
akabula
When: 03 Jun 18 22:05
All a load of nonsense. Purely done to protect a certain faith.
All the arguments fall apart when you consider those cases not only covered but advertised.
Might prejudice future trials. Say something else surfaces about Cliff or Harris. Doesn't seem to be a problem with them.
By:
akabula
When: 03 Jun 18 22:06
It was widely reported in this case.
By:
donny osmond
When: 03 Jun 18 22:07
when was cliffs trial?
By:
akabula
When: 03 Jun 18 22:08
What's that got to do with anything?
By:
donny osmond
When: 03 Jun 18 22:09
well you mentioned him
By:
PorcupineorPineapple
When: 03 Jun 18 22:12
Are Blacks a race wolf?

When people were throwing bananas at footballers was it only reserved for certain nationalities. When Stephen Lawrence was murdered was it because of where his ancestors were from?

Sorry bud, but if you're grouping all muslims together and hating on them then you're racist. It's that simple. You may be happy with that. Certainly some seem quite comfortable with it lately.
By:
akabula
When: 03 Jun 18 22:12
Well spotted, I did mention him and your point is?
By:
InsiderTrader
When: 03 Jun 18 22:12
donny osmond
03 Jun 18 22:02
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which extra restrictions ?

if there are reporting restrictions it cant be reported

^

Were there special restrictions for this case? If there are where can we find a list of all the cases with these restrictions?
By:
InsiderTrader
When: 03 Jun 18 22:16
PorcupineorPineapple
03 Jun 18 22:12
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Are Blacks a race wolf?

When people were throwing bananas at footballers was it only reserved for certain nationalities. When Stephen Lawrence was murdered was it because of where his ancestors were from?

Sorry bud, but if you're grouping all muslims together and hating on them then you're racist. It's that simple. You may be happy with that. Certainly some seem quite comfortable with it lately.

^

Are all followers of Scientology a race? Are all Christians a race?
By:
donny osmond
When: 03 Jun 18 22:17
i dont know where a list of cases with reporting restrictions can be found

i dont know anybody that collates details from every court

there may be a list, but sometimes the restrictions are not lifted after the trial, so they are not reported
By:
PorcupineorPineapple
When: 03 Jun 18 22:17
I'd imagone they'd keep that close to their chest IT.

If it wss rumoured that a famous footballer had restrictions on his case but we could see a list of 5 ongoing restricted cases and one was Spears v Giggs and that could be known and reported far and wide it would defeat the purpose a touch.
By:
InsiderTrader
When: 03 Jun 18 22:22
If there is no list how do people know they cannot report?
By:
PorcupineorPineapple
When: 03 Jun 18 22:22
IT - if you want to get down to brass tacks there are no such things as races. There is nothing genetic that connects you, me and a few million others as Brits. Doesn't exist. Therefore the British aren't a race. Races are merely political tools used by the powerful to either corral a group together or drive a wedge between people.

An interesting topic when you get under its skin.
By:
donny osmond
When: 03 Jun 18 22:23
the judge keeps court informed as to any reporting restrictions
By:
woundedknee
When: 03 Jun 18 22:25
stephen lawrence the only racist murder ever.... according to the bbc FILTH
By:
PorcupineorPineapple
When: 03 Jun 18 22:25
The judge says so early on in the proceedings. (May actually be before the trial itself if the crown states it's important so all defendants get a fair trial and the judge agrees).
By:
InsiderTrader
When: 03 Jun 18 22:27
The judges says where? In the court? How does someone standing outside the court reading stuff off another public website know these restrictions are in suddenly in place?
By:
akabula
When: 03 Jun 18 22:28
Passed on by Chinese Whispers? (Hope that's not racist btw)
By:
donny osmond
When: 03 Jun 18 22:28
its reporters job to find out
By:
akabula
When: 03 Jun 18 22:35
FFS Donny making it up as he goes along.
Reporter "are there any restrictions in place"
Court Officer "Sorry I can't tell you"
By:
casemoney
When: 03 Jun 18 22:37
Fooball Marches Appear to be attracting Gay couples  the Disabled and some non white People , Now its strange that the BBc 

is not Covering that kind of Diversity, or a Seikh man infront of a Diverse crowd saying he agrees with Robinson 'A few Cheers from

Tommy's Supporters but certainly no negative cheers from what was a crowd with Black people and what appeared asian People

in it,

As the Main speaker was condemning Pedo Rapists not Surprising ,But once again not the Kind of Diversity our luvvie friends

want to see .
By:
donny osmond
When: 03 Jun 18 22:38
reporter is made aware of restrictions, often sat in court to hear, ...

have you been drinking aka?
By:
PorcupineorPineapple
When: 03 Jun 18 22:47
Donny beat me to it.

Ignorance is no excuse.

It's beholden on the news org, or ad seller with an iPhone, to inform himself before jumping in. I believe reporters are allowed in to cover the trial, they juat can't file copy till the ban is lifted.
By:
InsiderTrader
When: 03 Jun 18 22:53
pp,

You are suggesting that is what TR is? An ad seller with an iPhone? That would be a low attack even for you.

What are the TV news organisations? Ad sellers with a TV cameras?
By:
donny osmond
When: 03 Jun 18 22:57
why would it be an attack , hes merely included everybody as having to obey
the same restrictions

be it a friend of a witness looking for a selfie or cnn
By:
InsiderTrader
When: 03 Jun 18 23:17
So the only way to find out if you can read out public information available online about a case on social media is to go into the court and listen to the judge saying if their is a restriction?
By:
donny osmond
When: 03 Jun 18 23:21
are you really not aware ?
By:
PorcupineorPineapple
When: 03 Jun 18 23:21
IT - frankly you're just doing some repetitive sealioning now.

If you're really interested in the reporting restriction process I'm sure you can find out rather than spend an entire evening on a betting forum asking question after question.
By:
donny osmond
When: 03 Jun 18 23:22
there you go

i can test you on it next week if you like


https://www.judiciary.gov.uk/wp-content/uploads/2015/07/reporting-restrictions-guide-may-2016-2.pdf
By:
PorcupineorPineapple
When: 03 Jun 18 23:31
You're a patient man don.
By:
wolf3011
When: 03 Jun 18 23:53

Jun 3, 2018 -- 10:22PM, PorcupineorPineapple wrote:


IT - if you want to get down to brass tacks there are no such things as races. There is nothing genetic that connects you, me and a few million others as Brits. Doesn't exist. Therefore the British aren't a race. Races are merely political tools used by the powerful to either corral a group together or drive a wedge between people.An interesting topic when you get under its skin.


There are no such thing as races but you still call people racists ...hilarious stuff, which is it ?

By:
wolf3011
When: 04 Jun 18 00:00
The dim comment intended for porcupine not inside trader btw
By:
PorcupineorPineapple
When: 04 Jun 18 00:24
I try and make allowances for you being incredibly dim , but if you are classifying religion as a " race " than someone criticising Tom cruises scientology as nonsense would be a " racist". Put the little racism drum down, and realise people are rightly criticising a barbaric cult and not the colour of someones skin using your silly banana analogy there's a good lad.


You do understand there's a bit of a diffetence between criticising a faith and denigrating everyone who follows it? Imo, Islam - like them all - is daft. Ramadam, veils, pork, booze. Why choose to place such arbitrary obstacles in your path on your short time on earth? Now if you instead say all scientologists are crazed sheep botherers then that is racist. That's the (fairly huge and unmissable to most) difference. If you make spurious claims like "these guys are paedophiles and are also muslims therefore a huge number of muslims must be paedos then that is discrimination and if you make it on the grounds of religion it is racism. If you don't believe me check the laws. Say derogatory comments about muslims in Hyde Park Corner and you'll be done for inciting racial hatred, not anti-religious hatred.



As for your races v racism comment, I thought someone woukd run with that and to be honest you were odds on.

I'll keep it simple. There's no such thing as race, such as an English race. Not genetically or biologically speaking. It is a political construct.

There is such a thing as racism. Because racism is simply the name given to prejudice against others based on their nationality, skin colour or religion. It's actually fairly broad.
By:
lfc1971
When: 04 Jun 18 00:28
nonsense to say there is no such thing as different races

Sometimes I think I might be Chinese
By:
donny osmond
When: 04 Jun 18 00:33
who could disagree with that
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