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Tommy Robinson sent back to prison for 13 months
Tommy Robinson sent back to prison for 13 months
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bbc showed that football coach arriving in court yesterday
he knew he would be filmed so was covered up they showed an artists sketch of him in court the artist is not allowed to draw in court, and so must leave to court to do sketch 20 odd years of grooming young boys and abusing them no thread ... |
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More PANDEMIC Cancer News
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err no it doesnt it highlights laws in this country
there are plenty of trials where you can film defendants, and plenty where you can not knowing the right ones to film is a great advantage to any journalist wanting to stay out of jail, let alone one with a suspended sentence for filming outside court. |
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Nice swerve
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its not a swerve
had tommy been out, he could have filmed the bloke too |
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why dont they film the pakistani gangs everytime they go to court and there,s loads of them as you know... fcuk all on the NEWS
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The leftists really are unable to think beyond their tribalist mindset
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Now perhaps pineapple can explain the difference between the manson case and this case?
Maybe the fact they took place in different countries, with different laws and different approaches to the media you complete numpty. So defences so far have been to compare this to cases overseas, to trespass laws 100s of years ago, to the Aztecs, to hypothetical rape cases. What next? Different species? New planets? Maybe consider why he pleaded guilty before getting so flustered at the unfairness of it all. Seriously folks. Read the piece and you might learn a little about the law and how and why it was applied here. Takes five minutes really. |
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^ we all knew that,
that wasn't the question now was it? |
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PoP, its a trap.
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there,s another one doesn't seem to be able to think for himself
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go ahead detraveller, surprise yourself
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sir prize myself.
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oh, well. questions are usually more beautiful than answers, more revealing
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PorcupineorPineapple
31 May 18 16:14 Joined: 03 Dec 15 | Topic/replies: 4,836 | Blogger: PorcupineorPineapple's blog Now perhaps pineapple can explain the difference between the manson case and this case? Maybe the fact they took place in different countries, with different laws and different approaches to the media you complete numpty. So defences so far have been to compare this to cases overseas, to trespass laws 100s of years ago, to the Aztecs, to hypothetical rape cases. What next? Different species? New planets? Maybe consider why he pleaded guilty before getting so flustered at the unfairness of it all. Seriously folks. Read the piece and you might learn a little about the law and how and why it was applied here. Takes five minutes really. ^ Amazing how naive some people are. They simply cannot see the bigger picture here. An activist trying to highlight one of the major issues of our time is jailed yet again. The left refuse to have an opinion on the grooming gangs. They simply shoot the messenger and agree with the state putting him in prison time after time. You may not agree with how he tries to get the message across but what is about the message the you actually reject? |
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Quite. The judge could have shown some discretion given the cover ups for years re grooming gangs. Too much to ask I'm afraid.
Tommy has been stung and by the letter of the law he's broken reporting restrictions (if facebook constitutes media). Most probably all over the BBC (not) but a 19 year old Egyptian who said he was 14 and Syrian has been done for 7 years for raping a 14 year old girl today.... Big picture people. Our girls are in very grave danger. |
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But the simple fact is it's nothing to do with the message.
(What is the message btw? See how our legal system works and successfully prosecutes criminals? He's standing outside an actual court where actual people are actually being tried. If his message is that it's not working he's gone a funny way about it.) But again it has zero to do with the message. There are laws to stop every Tom, Rick and Harry reporting on ongoing cases. An obvious reason is to prevent intimidation of witnesses. But in this case the judge was extremely clear and said no one could report on it till the process. That process - almost certainly - includes subsequent cases yet to come and any reporting here mid-trial could affect both this case and the ones to come. So no media coverage at all to protect the integrity of the legal process. And yet here comes lickle Tommy swanning in thinking the law doesn't apply to him. Given his history he should be more aware than most and yet he's clearly either stupid or immensely arrogant. The bigger picture us that his actions could have caused a mistrial and caused those kids to have to testify again. It could have caused the peeps - if guilty - to walk free. That is the the bigger picture the courts had to concern themselves with, not Tommy's fan club, hits, ad revenue or commission from brain juice. |
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Tommy boy did handle this badly... but if the tv and media highlighted what has been going on for years with these rape gangs this probably wouldnt have happened... why is there a tv and media blackout of these applalling crimes ? white Chelsea fans pushed a black bloke off the metro in france .. a liberty but no injuries ..bbc had it on every night for about 3-4 weeks... they hardly ever mention these rape gangs ... this is the thing that everyday people are getting the hump with and its starting to fester
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I think you're the closest yet to accept Tommy hasn't been harshly treated and was rightly jailed.
Has anyone on here yet who still thinks he was hard done by commented on the fact that he did in fact plead guilty. |
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we did already establish that he was pushed into it by a mean lawyer though
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Basis for that Aaron.
Do you think Tommy is the type who'd cave so easily? |
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as for WK's example, surely it's obvious how there is a difference between how a story which had CCTV evidence can be reported and how these cases can be.
is the expectation that rules should be relaxed and daily reporting from trials should happen or that information should come out at the end? |
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why would the judge show discretion ?
the previous judge did....by suspending his sentence sometimes discretion runs out ... |
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tomys best course is sending apology to court, asking if sentence can be altered , let out
on extended suspension of sentence, with a promise not to go near a trial with a camera during that time, and an expectation that at end of suspension he is suitably conversant with law regarding reporting trials. |
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Can anyone explain how filming outside the court could prejudice the trial ?
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The answer is in that secret barrister article lfc.
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No it’s not
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and on the thread....
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What is the answer?
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ive never heard of anyone getting nicked for something as trivial as breach otp and going to court the same day.. they defo went out there way to put him away... but he could be somewhere comfy.. unless they want a big summer riot again
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Just because you haven't heard of it, doesn't mean it hasn't happened thousands of times.
Maybe accept this is just the legal system working in the way it should. And nothing else. If he was the victim in this surely the self-professed hardman would have fought his corner and not just pleaded guilty. Maybe even just try to delay so he could get a message out to his disciples. No, he saw the case before him and gave in without any effort expended at all. But no, let's continue to pretend it's a stitch up. |
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Yes of course he was guilty , but how would it prejudice the trial ?
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with all the other cases being compared to this that had been reported on rather than not, was the reporting being done in such a way that implied clear guilt towards the accused
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information being out there with the latter trials to come seems like it could prejudice things to me
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latter, linked
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You have a court case , the trial takes place and evidence is given
A verdict has to be reached on the evidence given in court The jury decides guilty , not guilty , everyone else apart from the jury will hear the same evidence, including the judge If the jury get it wrong there is always there is the possibility of a retrial That’s how it works Now how does filming outside the court affect that process ? |
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im not saying it was a stitch up ... he pleaded guilty... what im saying is ... it was fast tracked ... you are usually bailed or remanded in custody and when you get to court then you are sentenced for getting nicked on a susp/sentence
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It's no good trying to make points to someone as controlled and one dimensional as porcupine.. in his eyes obey the "law " = good person , break the law = bad person. It's all his microscopic brain can cope with and hasn't occurred to him that laws of today in a century either won't exist or will have evolved to such an extent they will be unrecognisable in their current format. Glove puppets like porcupine existed a century ago when blacks were deemed unsuitable to be sitting next to whites as it was the "law" but porcupine would be using a barrister equivalent to state it was right as it was the "law".
Try getting a brain of your own porcupine, stop lapping up what the establishment want you to do like an unthinking sheep although I suspect I would have more success placing a chimp infront of a piano and asking it play mozarts Don Giavanni than that happening … dismissed. |
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^ very good post , applies to a few others as well but pineapple is maybe the worst
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ME TOO ME TOO!!!
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