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Torquemada
16 Dec 17 15:00
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I reckon he's vastly overrated, his acting range is very limited. When you look at actors like Leonardo di Caprio or Eddie Redmayne etc, they're in a different league altogether.

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By:
Torquemada
When: 16 Dec 17 15:12
Michael Caine has a similarly limited range, but still far better than Connery.
By:
A_T
When: 16 Dec 17 15:24
Caine is better than Connery but both very limited. They have massive charisma though.
By:
DStyle
When: 16 Dec 17 15:34
they both have excellent presence but limited range.

(Di Caprio and Redmayne aren't that good. Gary Oldman, Mark Rylance and Daniel Day Lewis are probably the best three male actors in the world. )
By:
dunlaying
When: 16 Dec 17 15:49
No he is not.
By:
acey deucy
When: 16 Dec 17 15:49
Not a bad actor but a right arrogant ****.
By:
Just Checking
When: 16 Dec 17 15:51
Was a caine film I've never seen that won an oscar I think, cider house rules.
Played a doctor in a US orphanage. Was pretty good, showed he does have range.

Not just a doctor, an obstetrician.

There was an unforunate incident where a patient died, and he was only supposed to clamp the bloody doors off.
By:
Just Checking
When: 16 Dec 17 15:54
Having said that I've never seen Caine dressed like THIS!:


https://i.amz.mshcdn.com/BS92XSwHkcwWM-IxtGemXXl4fDg=/http%3A%2F%2Fa.amz.mshcdn.com%2Fwp-content%2Fuploads%2F2015%2F01%2FZardoz-2.jpg
By:
DStyle
When: 16 Dec 17 16:14
was kevin spacey the director on that?
By:
Johnny_Mustang
When: 16 Dec 17 16:57
I saw more facial expressions in Ted 2 than in any Connery movie.
By:
A_T
When: 16 Dec 17 17:44
Having said that I've never seen Caine dressed like THIS!:


https://i.amz.mshcdn.com/BS92XSwHkcwWM-IxtGemXXl4fDg=/http%3A%2F%2Fa.amz.mshcdn.com%2Fwp-content%2Fuploads%2F2015%2F01%2FZardoz-2.jpg



what a ridiculous outfit he must be freezing
By:
trilby22
When: 16 Dec 17 17:56
I liked Connery in The Rock with Nick Cage.  That was a most excellent flick.
By:
hfink
When: 16 Dec 17 19:08
Thought he was very good in The Hill and The Offence. Both films directed by Lumet, so maybe that dir. brought the best out of him.
By:
pumphol.
When: 16 Dec 17 19:15
Yes its often hard to tell when you don't imo get pushed to show your ability, Caine & Connery both suffered from this, almost a case of quantity over quality, however Connery was excellent in The Hill  so that may well answer the case for the defense.
By:
Hank Hill
When: 16 Dec 17 19:18
Can you be a good actor if you do the same accent for every single role?
By:
A_T
When: 16 Dec 17 19:29
he did a russian accent in the Hunt for Red October - or at least he tried to
By:
hfink
When: 16 Dec 17 19:33
Also worked with Lumet in The Anderson Tapes. Guess Connery must have liked working with that director. But whatever the level of his acting, there's no doubting his screen presence, as a lot of the 'big stars' have of course. Certainly had the right charisma for the Bond role.  The Hill and The Verdict are films I can watch again and again. Saw him some years ago in an old British war-comedy film called "On The Fiddle", and it was amusing to contrast with his persona in the Bond movies.
By:
annie.
When: 16 Dec 17 19:39
I think he is a good actor because I will usually watch a film that I haven't seen before if he is in it.  I do this with other actors, Javier Bardem, Benicio del Toro, Charles Laughton, Alan Rickman, Will Smith, Matt Damon, Steve McQueen, Harrison Ford etc etc.  Whereas there are films I haven't seen because the 'actors' who may be thought of as better are in it, Johnny Depp, Leonard Dicaprio, Kevin Spacey, Tom Cruise etc etc..
By:
hfink
When: 16 Dec 17 19:45
Good point annie. I'd also add Gene Hackman to that list. One of the all-time great American actors, never bad in any scene. I'd certainly have him in the top 3 best actors of American 1970's cinema, having created some superb work then.
By:
Platini
When: 16 Dec 17 22:41
don't think big Sean has ever claimed to be a great actor, but he oozes charisma, in fact there's more charisma in one of his beads of sweat than DiCaprio and co have ever had in their whole career. And of course, he is the James Bond.
By:
Just Checking
When: 16 Dec 17 22:58
Well Connery doesn't have a massive range but he's good at what he does and there's nothing wrong with that.

E.g. Malcolm young, guitarist for AC/DC who died the other day, was never known as a jazz improv virtuoso but he was very good at what he chose to do.

There would be imho a noticable loss to the films we've all seen if SC had never been there, so looking at it THAT way, which is a very good way to look at it, he was a good actor.

He did name of the rose, which was to my memory pretty good and not in his normal gendre.
By:
Just Checking
When: 16 Dec 17 23:00
He also did Zargoz (see earlier photo) which is AFAIK BITOs favourite film after the beach volleyball film in Top Gun (see earlier photo!).
By:
Just Checking
When: 16 Dec 17 23:00
*scene
By:
trilby22
When: 17 Dec 17 05:11
Totally agree with Plat re Connery's plethora of charisma and Di Crapio's dearth of BUT Moore was THE Bond, imo.
By:
cooperman
When: 17 Dec 17 08:26
Was in his third film (Hell Drivers) that he was initially spotted for the Bond role.
By:
northanlite
When: 17 Dec 17 08:50
i doubt he would ever claim to be a great actor but he is a decent actor & a great movie star. He did have his moments,
The Offence probably being his most challenging role & he was pretty damn good in that.
By:
hfink
When: 17 Dec 17 11:23
re hfink: "..The Hill and The Verdict are films I can watch again and again."
that should have been: "..The Hill and The Offence are films I can watch again and again.."  getting me Lumet films mixed up ffs; my brain is all over the place these days! Crazy
By:
hfink
When: 17 Dec 17 12:39
Remember someone telling me a funny Billy Connery story. Billy was to meet Connery on a golf course, and as Billy approached him, Connery said: "Billy! You're a $hite for shaw eyes!"
By:
nomiskroy
When: 17 Dec 17 12:57
Can't believe people saying he didn't have a range.

He once played the role of a dragon.

Makeup was really good. Even if it was a Scottish dragon.
By:
Platini
When: 17 Dec 17 14:07
Trilby, I'm a big fan of Roger Moore as well, and I loved all his Bond movies but he's no Sean Connery. Just ask the ladies who they prefer.
There's very few movie stars with Connery's charisma - Clint Eastwood, Steve McQueen - thats the level of screen presence we're talking about. Who's got that these days ?
By:
hfink
When: 17 Dec 17 14:16
Also thought he was good with Richard Harris in The Molly Maguires. A good film too.
By:
hfink
When: 17 Dec 17 14:23
For those who like anagrams: does he have any on-screen presence?  (well, yes, obviously!)
By:
Knight Commander
When: 17 Dec 17 15:28
Plays Sean Connery to perfection Wink
By:
annie.
When: 17 Dec 17 18:59
You are right on both counts, Platini Happy

Although I like Roger Moore I do prefer Sean Connery.  And I agree there are few actors today who are as sexy and charismatic as the old times.
By:
Just Checking
When: 17 Dec 17 19:26
Is it just me that reads "Billy Connery" and hears it like it's a japanese man saying "Billy Connolly" Laugh
By:
zorrostrikes
When: 18 Dec 17 12:37
the Hill - excellent film
the red tent - amaz ballz
the offence - super duper - loads of great films from the canary.
By:
curious-cat
When: 18 Dec 17 12:55
ZARDOZ
By:
curious-cat
When: 18 Dec 17 12:57
I'M SURE Connery had a Scottish accent in at least one film.
By:
pixie
When: 18 Dec 17 13:04
He does a scottish irish accent in 'The Untouchables'.
By:
tobermory
When: 18 Dec 17 18:34
The football equivalent of this thread would be 'David DeGea is way overrated : i've never seen him beat 3 players and put it in the top corner'

Actors like Connery , John Wayne , Tom Cruise , Clint Eastwood are great at playing archetypal roles that you get in genre movies . They are not overrated as no one considers them 'great actors' in the usual sense of being able to play totally different personalities .

Denholm Elliot would be considered a better actor than Harrison Ford in terms of range etc , but would Raiders of the Lost Ark have been better if Denholm had played Indiana Jones  ?

Would The Terminator had been better if Gielgud had played the title role...
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