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Hi Just Checking, can't believe I said Billy Connery instead of Billy Connolly! My brain really is in a sorry state these days, lol
And you're right, it does sound like a Japanese fella saying "Connolly"! Perhaps I'm Japanese and didn't reawise it! ![]() |
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Exactly, tobermory, you have explained it exactly. There needs to be a name for great 'actors' like charles laughton but also for actors who have charisma and sex appeal. I am sure that no one would say marilyn monroe was a great actress but she had a certain something, especially for men
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I have to say, the image (in one's head) of Gielgud playing The Terminator is just so funny! Thanks for putting that thought in my head, Tobermory!
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Gielgud was awful in everything I've ever seen him in. A great actor, even one of small stature, COULD have played the Terminator very well IMO.
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Only seen Connery in two Bond films - Goldfinger (quite enjoyable film) and You Only Live Twice (dreadful film). Connery was very poor in both IMO.
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Connery is the sex symbol actor , and does that role well.
John Hurt is not that type actor but was the daddy of the acting profession. imo of course. |
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They don't need to be a good actors to get on. Good actors are ten-a-penny.
What they need is star quality, that's what people pay to see. Someone mentioned John Hurt as being a good actor, I'm sure he is. Yet who wants to look at him for an hour and half? |
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Here's a challenge. Can you name some super charismatic movie stars who were also great actors ?
Paul Newman, Robert Redford spring to mind. |
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Marlon Brando. All great actors have charisma I would say.
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Jack Nicholson - another great actor with charisma.
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Russell Crowe. Great actor with charisma.
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Connery nowhere close to being in those guys' league IMO.
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I don't really see why folks think Connery has charisma either really - he just comes across as a bully and not a very good communicator. Roger Moore - who freely admitted his acting limitations - was a wonderful raconteur and had much more charisma IMO.
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All great shouts - Jack Nicholson would be in my top 3.
Gregory Peck and Orson Welles from the early days as well. |
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You'd have to do a lot of searching to find anyone claiming Connery was as good an actor as Brando !
You have actors who 'play the same character' over and over , and actors who can play totally different roles convincingly. Connery obviously in the former group , and i've never seen anyone claim he was any more than that . Others are Eastwood ,Wayne ,Cruise ,Redford . No doubt there will be some people who don't rate one or the other of them , even as just movie stars . But they all had enough charisma for most people to serve their purpose in box office terms. |
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How many "blokes" like watching films with Connery in in later years
because it reminds them of how they used to love the sixties Bond films? And that they all wanted to be him? Millions, I'd say. ![]() |
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Interesting bit of trivia. His brother, Neil Connery, starred in an Italian produced Bond pastiche called "Operation Kid Brother" (aka "OK Connery"). Never seen that film (he was dubbed in it anyway, according to IMDB, due to having appendicitis at the time of making it) but I wonder how he compared as an actor to Sean. Mind you, he didn't appear in very much (only 10 credits on IMDB, and mostly tv work).
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Yesh.
Not really. |
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Maybe it's me, but I don't think of him as charismatic at all and not a very good actor either. He's not got anything like the Charisma of Nicholson, Brando, Pacino, Bogart, Eastwood and loads of others. Perhaps he is very good looking, he definitely has a good body, and that's what it's all about but as a bloke I'm not very good at telling. I would have thought Newman, Eastwood and Dean would all be far better sex symbols tho.
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