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Bunch of hillbilly racists got tooled up and went looking for a fight. Being America, they found one.
I ask you to look at the videos. The guys with assault rifles and flak jackets were keeping the peace and protecting the medic area used by both sides. Not single shot was fired. Antifa were the ones pepper spraying and punching both left and right wing reporters. There was violence on both sides because the police stood down. What the videos before trying to divide us using racist anti-white slurs. |
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This is the kind of thing that they are trying to do in their divide and conquer strategy.
Of course it goes all over the news to try to get the patriots to react. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6koXCehHJdQ Do people agree with pulling down of statues? http://edition.cnn.com/2017/08/14/us/confederate-statue-pulled-down-north-carolina-trnd/index.html |
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Or of holocaust memorials being defaced?
http://www.bostonherald.com/news/local_coverage/2017/08/police_holocaust_memorial_vandalized_2nd_time_this_summer |
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These are criminal acts PP. Agreed?
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PP,
Why do you use racist slurs against white people? |
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You are playing into their divide and conquer game.
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I agree IT
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"why should the statue be taken down"
Because the Democrats history, as it relates to race and slavery, is not one to be proud of. Republicans were founded as a "Civil Rights Party" with Lincoln as their president and fought a war 11 years later to end slavery. |
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Holy sh!t. Attempting to point score that your party was better 150 years ago.
I actually believe the reason it's being taken down is because of the recent (in years) wave of racist murders that were linked to white supremacy and some thought statues like this had potential to become shrines or something similar for these kinds of people. |
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any other shrines you would like to see taken down pineapple, elsewhere in the world or in Britain?
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linked to murderous and evil people and sects and cults.
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lets see.
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start naming them
1 the statue to Robert E Lee 2 |
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Not my decision and not my wish lfc. I'm simply stating what I believe to be the truth. There's rather a lot of racist crimes going on over there in the name of white supremacy and the authorities have been looking at ways to reduce them. This was decided to assist in that aim.
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so, there are rather a lot of crimes in Britain, and elsewhere in the world, murders and slavery and torture associated with a religion that had as its leader, that tortured and enslaved and murdered.
and you are happy to see those buildings that follow his teachings, today, in todays world in Britain and elsewhere. |
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not a statue to Robert E Lee, seems to be a concern to you, I don't know why.
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so far we have only one statue that concerns you
why is that? |
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trumpton condemned all parties originally
then the so called liberals attacked an alt right speaker watched it all on sky the other morning hope this helps |
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I'm not concerned by it remotely, just commenting on a story that dominated the news wires over the weekend.
As it happens, I wouldn't be pulling it down personally. I think a nice solution would be to have a museum dedicated to that period, explaining slavery, the civil war and the aftermath and this statue could be re-sited there. It's a work of art at the end of the day and people might genuinely enjoy it without wanting to start up a possé straight afterwards. |
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At the same time I'm not from the area so can't fully appreciate the political and social factors that have led to the council's decision.
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ah I see.
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Holy sh!t. Attempting to point score that your party was better 150 years ago.Holy sh!t. Attempting to point score that your party was better 150 years ago.
Facts dear boy, facts, you 'book burners' hate history when its not on your side. |
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how would you explain to people in Britain the arrival of mosques, and what they represent, and its teachings, and the life of its founder and some of his terrible and brutal enslavement and murder within his life...and followed even today
do you think that might be taken down put in a museum also? |
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dave is another one who is concerned about a statue in America.
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I must say that statue doesn't bother me, I insist on being unbothered by it.
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So I'm a book burner now.
you off your meds again? |
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lfc1971 • August 14, 2017 8:03 PM BST
never will I condemn the people protesting against the removal of the monument to General Lee. I would be ashamed to death to do so Not what you said yesterday, lfc. The statue isn't remotely important. It was an excuse for a 'meeting' which could be well publicised and engender some publicity for the rednecks with guns. That they never fired a shot means nothing. That they were careful with their words means nothing. This is what we see all the time on here. Obvious meanings, obvious intent, but complete denial. If it hadn't been a statue it would have been something else. |
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very good, we now have pineapple and studyform agreeing that the statue can stay, or do we?
let me put it like this, I would rather see every mosque in Britain removed, rather than the statue be removed. do studyform and pineapple agree with that statement and if not , why not. |
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Not even original with your insults.
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lfc:
A. This issue - the one we're discussing - has nothing to do with mosques in Britain. it isn't a choice anyone ever needs to make. B. I couldn't give a flying feck if there's a statue of Lee in Virginia or anywhere else. Something which I believe I have in common with the protesters. C. You were ashamed to death to condemn the protesters as the statue was of a war hero, someone you admired, now you insist on being unbothered by it. |
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I am amazed that any type of racist slurs against minorities are (rightly) condemned and yet P-Pineapple thinks it is ok to make racist slurs against white people.
The double standards are sickening. |
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SUTDYFORM,
Do you think the ripping down of a war memorial statue by a mob at Durham, North Carolina was acceptable behaviour? |
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A. its a question of hypocrisy
B. that's ok C. you haven't understood, I am unbothered by the statue, I would be bothered by the removal. don`t mistake one for the other. |
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Do you think that all the memorials in Germany to the German soldiers who fought in WW2 should be torn down?
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disgraceful for dave to think that public property can be destroyed and torn down in violence if they attract the wrong sort of people, who are involved in acts of violence and murder and racism and discrimination against minorities and females and other religions and well, many other terrible practises.
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what does dave1357 think should be done, would that be a good thing, lets see what he says
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is it the duty of the authorities to "tear them down" as dave1357 suggests, or does he.
lets see |
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What I think is that the statue is of no consequence, IT. It was an excuse for a bunch of ARMED rednecks who want to threaten without 'actually' threatening and to frighten people without actually 'frightening' them.
Not unlike on the forum where people say things without actually 'saying' them so as to make the appearance of innocence easier. The statue is deflection, both in Virginia and on here by you. A load of "White supremacists, neo-Nazis, KKK members and others travelled 100's or even 1000's of miles in order to "Protest" about a statue (I would back at 1.01) most of them didn't know existed. They were Armed and in combat gear, they were there to instil fear and hatred. You seem to agree with their right to do so. Those who don't agree with them, it would appear as far as you are concerned, are as bad as they were. I would like to see if you can condemn without mentioning anyone else, a statue, legal rights, mosques, "what is the far-right" guff, or any other deflection, the actions of these people. Can you? Or do you actually support them? Let's see if you can put up a direct response. (1.01 you can't) |