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Alt-Right Racist Car Multi-murder attempt !
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Ah now here is swagman , I must admit I am surprised at him.
I never thought he was like that. |
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lfc you know i always found you highly amusing
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but like any sane human being i pay absolutely zero attention to your views.
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and I you swagman, and intelligent ..and honest.
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That's why I say I am so surprised. ,
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I expect that sort of thing from the leftists and the liberals and the anti Americans and the anti British and that is why I got twitchy when I hadn't heard of this person
Something didn't ring true |
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"that is why I got twitchy when I hadn't heard of this person"
Who ? Shirley ? |
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People like the moneyshot, very quick to throw the racist term about
But very quick not to comment or answer a simple question on what this woman said I don't know why. |
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STUDYFORM 15 Aug 17 17:41 Joined: 26 Jan 05 | Topic/replies: 16,882 | Blogger: STUDYFORM's blog
From Yesterday, by me, completely ignored: Still. I'm quite sure you realise all of this, but feel in some way kind of smart in being so obtuse and clever in evading direct answers. You really shouldn't. People like you (thankfully there aren't as many as you'd like there to be) will never concede anything and will defend anything generally regarded as 'far right' however awful or wrong. You peddle your crap it's OK, Do you, like so many on here read Breitbart or Daily Stormer? Or any other neo-Nazi websites? I'm guessing yes, others here do as well. ONE LAST QUESTION>>>> PLEASE ANSWER JUST THIS ONE? Taken from the Daily Stormer..... WHAT DO YOU THINK OF IT? It's about the woman who was killed by the car in Virginia: Written by Andrew Anglin Aug 13th: Heather Heyer, the woman killed in road-rage incident was a fat, childless 32 year old slut. It gets worse after that. This is the stuff the 'what I call' far-right (Neo Nazis, KKK, etc) say in the public domain? Do these people think it's some kind of war? Is that why guns are needed? Jolly, that is where Brietbart was mentioned. My only comment on it before you threw your toys out of your pram was why is this guy putting it in the same sentence as the Daily Stormer? People seem to be trying to call anyone who is vague right wing a Nazi. Trump, Farage, Mail, Fox News, the Tories. This blanket Nazi tag is what I was complaining about. I dont know anything about this case you talk about. If the tape was manipulated and this lady really did help that white farmer then it was a bad thing to do. But it does not make it Nazi. Why do you think I am using the Nazi thing as a destraction? A destraction from what? You dont think Breitbart is Nazi and nor do I. So we agree that Studyform was wrong. |
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lfc I think a lot of people have got your number mate and I'm not talking 1971, think I'll just leave it at that bruv
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I see.
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you keep talking about nazis as a distraction, i dont.
to suggest i have thrown my toys about the pram is more distraction. where have i mentioned nazis, the clue is i havent. you repeatedly mention nazis and i dont, i am afraid it is just another attempt to avoid the topic. again you talk about nazis where i dont mention nazis. breitbart are lying scum, something you are at pains to avoid. |
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OMG. Are you serious?
Did you read the post from 'STUDYFORM' that I commented about? The only reason Breitbart ever appeared on the thread. |
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You are upset about Breitbart. Fine. That is your opinion.
Studyform called them Nazi. Not me. Not you. I was disputing why he labelled Breitbart in that way. That is it. |
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i have never mentioned nazis but you have repeatedly.
i am not upset at breitbart, yet again you are attempting to deflect. what i do is point out that they are a bunch of liars, do you accept that they lied about shirley sherrod? surely it shows that they cannot be trusted??? |
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What on earth are you talking about?
When have I ever said they can or cannot be trusted? This such a weird conversation. Did you read Studyform's post: Do you, like so many on here read Breitbart or Daily Stormer? Or any other neo-Nazi websites? That is what I was replying to. |
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oh dear, you cannot answer simple questions. you are purposely confusing someone else's questions with mine.
you bring up the subject of nazis to deflect. once again, i have never mentioned nazis, i do not want to talk about nazis. i have mentioned the fact that i do not want to talk about nazis three or four times but you mention them again, as a means of distraction. it really is very simple, do you accept that breitbart lied about shirley sherrod and helped get an innocent woman sacked or not? i know it is difficult when your sources of 'news' are shown to be a bunch of lying toerags but you need to admit the truth and move on. for you another a glass of koolaid is needed, poor trader. |
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Why is this case relevant to the conversation me and someonelse were having where he claimed it was a neo-Nazi website which I disputed?
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Donald just said it was the lefts fault for the violence at the weekend............Go Donald, go Donald
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Oh I wish I was in the land of cotton.
Old times there are not forgotten. Look away, look away, look away Dixie land ! |
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more obfuscation trader. i set out to show that breitbart talk a load of sh1te, you dont seem to accept that they are on a mission and lie to spread their word.
why is the pepper spray relevant to a thread about a lunatic running people over? chemical weapons you mentioned you poor thing. you cannot refute anything i said so are now resorting to say it has no relevance to some other (non) case you were discussing. i agree it has nothing to do with your talk of nazis, so why do you keep talking about nazis in our discussion? at no point have i mentioned nazis in our discussion, whereas you have on several times. you need to get your head out of the clouds and admit that breitbart are lying scum, somehow i dont think you will no matter what. more koolaid needed. |
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Yankee by birth
Rebel by choice |
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I lived in South Carolina in the early eighties I can remember Dixie being played at the end of the day on a local tv station. This stuff is ingrained in a lot of people in the South.
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yes dan, people all over the world are indoctrinated to think in a certain way. i've never brought into it myself. left v right suits the people at the top all too well as they make off with our cash.
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The CNN Presenters and Analysts are going apopleptic with rage on TV right now! It is hilarious. Very sad to see decent tv journalists behave like this. They are taking sides and unfortunatley this is what news media are doing.
I remember 8 years ago Sarah Palin killing Poitical Satire because you couldn't satirise her ignorant nonsensical ramblings. Sometimes you just need to report the news and what happens and let the people decide. Why analyse what Chump says. Let the people hear him. They need to replay his shambles of a Press Conference at Chump Tower today in full. He is a disgrace to the American Flag. My prophecy that Chump would get a stroke next Autumn has moved forward. The Republicans cannot allow this dope to continue. They face decimation in the mid terms. Government will also come to a halt. Nothing will be agreed. This is bad, very bad. |
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I like to think I'm on the right but as I've said elsewhere I keep finding out I'm centre left which is really confusing for me
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Leftie Nutters turn up For a tear Up with KKK NAZI MOB someone Gets killed ,Tragic but hardly Surprising
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If the left hadn't turned up there would of been no trouble. The right did have a permit for the March/ meeting
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Did they also have a permit to march through the University on Friday night with torches chanting hatred for Jews?
Does Chump know his daughter is now a Jew as are some of his grand children? |
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Does Donald actually know anything ? After watching him tonight, he needs to tread carefully. It is clear to see who's side he's on
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Whisperingdeath
Why analyse what Chump says. Let the people hear him. They need to replay his shambles of a Press Conference at Chump Tower today in full. He is a disgrace to the American Flag. My prophecy that Chump would get a stroke next Autumn has moved forward. The Republicans cannot allow this dope to continue. They face decimation in the mid terms. Government will also come to a halt. Nothing will be agreed. This is bad, very bad. Totally agree WD - the majority of American voters must be mortified by what they see on a daily basis. |
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I've been out for the evening.
Insider Trader - You have spent hours on this thread splitting hairs, avoiding main questions and making something out of nothing asides, whilst at the same time never once admitting where (obviously) your true sympathies lie. Incidentally the Knuckle draggers/hillbillys thing is unquestionably referring to the protestors so I can't understand why you keep saying it refers to all white working class Americans. EVERY answer you have given has been qualified with a 'but' or a 'they did it too'. Yes Breitbart is widely regarded as a Far-right organ. Far Right, Nazi.... Potato, Potarto. However, just for you, the first thing I looked up - from today in fact: http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/entry/breitbart-editor-joel-pollak-uses-bizarre-nazi-analogy-to-defend-the-rights-of-white-supremacists_uk_5992a0b6e4b09071f69c2f1b and http://www.npr.org/2016/11/15/502165973/ex-breitbart-executive-brings-alt-right-ties-to-the-white-house The thread has taken so many twists and turns and gone off in a myriad directions simply because you find it impossible to say, without any additions or further weird reasoning that: The gathering of Armed, combat clothes wearing, swastika wearing/waving, groups from far and wide representing quite far right organisations (Neo Nazis, White Supremacists, KKK and others) is reprehensible and wrong. Isn't it? Not the counter demonstrators are just as bad. Not They have a legal right, not they were peaceful there was just 1 idiot. None of those things, no qualifiers, no comparisons. This is the one answer I've been trying (unsuccessfully) to get. Just to clearly see what you really think. Yes or No? Come on you can do this..... The gathering of Armed, combat clothes wearing, swastika wearing/waving, groups from far and wide representing quite far right organisations (Neo Nazis, White Supremacists, KKK and others) is reprehensible and wrong As you said earlier: We can selectively condemn protests just because we dont agree with the protest. Yes we can, but you choose not to. |
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The problem I have is you make about 5 or more points and if I miss one thing I get accused of changing the subject.
Is this your main question: Yes or No? Come on you can do this..... The gathering of Armed, combat clothes wearing, swastika wearing/waving, groups from far and wide representing quite far right organisations (Neo Nazis, White Supremacists, KKK and others) is reprehensible and wrong It is it is not something I would support or go to or want anything to with. I was appaulled by the footage of the torch march and the things they were saying. I found that rephrensible and wrong. The footage from they next day I am not sure they were all the same type of people. That is not the impression I got from the hours I watched. I do not think it is wrong to protest at a statue being taken away. I do not anything wrong with open carry if it is legal. If you threaten someone with a gun of course that is wrong. I think it is wrong to use violence or threaten violence or shout abuse at people. Not something I am in favour of at all. If you feel there is anything else I have dodged feel free to ask. |
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My points are in response to yours, IT.
You nearly answered. Clearly - but not quite with a straight no! However I accept that you don't think they did things quite right. Personally I see loads of things wrong with Open carry. It wouldn't be well received here by, I would think, a huge majority of people. So it should be no different in the US. My feeling and that of many others is the threat of violence is implicit, in both the manner and methods of protest and the fact that none is carried out by the protesters, although in fact, some was - by the idiot driver, is not of much consequence. It is the purpose of these groups to agitate, in instil fear, to garner support and to spread the word. Therefore they are most careful to not get carted away so they use take everything to the brink and wind-up any opposition to what most consider, repugnant views. Hiding behind "Freedom of speech" is not reasonable any more than it would be at a paedophile convention. The Statue was an excuse, I will forever maintain that most of the protesters wouldn't have even known who Lee was or what he did. The crux of this matter is that many, including me, have selectively chosen to condemn this protest and those who were part of it - just the far-right groups. The ones who originated the gathering. in much the same way as they might condemn a paedophile convention. Others have thought it fair and right that can have a gathering, I suspect you to be in the latter group. Thus we can never agree. |
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I think it is wrong to use violence or threaten violence or shout abuse at people
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Studyform,
If you ban me from mentioning Antifa or saying BLM use open carry when trying put this thing into context how come you are allowed to bring paedophiles into the debate? That is a topic that has nothing whatsoever to do with race wars. It is clear a number of people are intent on having a race war and cause division. One of those sides are the neo nazis/kkk type groups. But this is not everyone who is right wing. It will be interesting to see who turns up to the rallies against Google censorship as many in the press are saying these protests against censorship are alt-right. Alt-right is a term they have also used for these racist groups like the neo-nazis. |
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Has studyform given evidence of why he thinks Breitbart is a neo-Nazi website or is that another question that he has failed to answer.
More fake news. |
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The rally in Charlottesville was supported by White Supremacists and Nazi's who were bussed in from all over the place. Would " really fine people " march under their banners while protesting the removal of the statue of Bob Lee.
I don't think so! To equate people who opposed these scumbags as just as bad as them is cheap and low. |
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Now of course he comes out with some nonsense about how he thinks the far right shouldn't be allowed freedom of speech in the same way as paedophiles shouldn't be allowed , but then again you might as well say that those on the far left shouldn't be allowed freedom of speech in the same way .
You really couldn't make up the sheer stupidity of such a viewpoint And from the lofty high moral ground that studyform thinks he inhabits . |
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Do people on the far left stalk innocent people walking to their car and beat them up?
Did you see the footage of a man beaten senseless by the same thugs weilding shelds with crosses on them? the same ones with sticks and clubs? I notice too it took about 100 of them to confront an innocent bystander. To equate anybody with left wings views and these street thugs is wrong lfc. |