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By:
dustybin
When: 07 Aug 17 22:18
It's not hate, it's pragmatism.
Two sides both think everyone else is for the devil and not afraid to bang on about it.
So why not let them take each other on?

Everything is the fault of the non religious to them, yet they hate each other.
By:
dustybin
When: 07 Aug 17 22:22
I don't want war, they seem more than happy to create it themselves.
By:
OwnBrain
When: 07 Aug 17 22:23
Nothing will happen Tommy is
trying his best to stir up
hate and you won't see
any in Scotland.Because the
Real rangers and Celtic fans know
he needs help.No Rangers/Celtic have
came to bows as we all know he
is a mug.
By:
dustybin
When: 07 Aug 17 22:25
Wtf?
You just post that on the wrong thread?
By:
dustybin
When: 07 Aug 17 22:28
Why you on about sectarianism?
That's just in house squabbling over their own s hit they can't agree on.
That's not what I'm on about here.

Plenty of secular men died to save the freedoms of the religious and zorro called them dogs.
You lot need to get some perspective.
By:
OwnBrain
When: 07 Aug 17 22:34
You need to call Tommy off
has he got a screw loose.
By:
OwnBrain
When: 07 Aug 17 22:36
Why you on about sectarianism?
Crazy

Where do i mention  this
By:
dustybin
When: 07 Aug 17 22:39
Ob wtf are you on about?
You start referring to Rangers and Celtic like it was relevant to my point.

Zorro knows what I'm on about whether you are following or not.
I'm off now, there will follow zorros rest card adverts through the night
Will look in again in the morn
Tura.
By:
OwnBrain
When: 07 Aug 17 22:43
dusty i may have picked it up wrong
ill read back tomorrow
By:
OwnBrain
When: 07 Aug 17 22:47
tommy is stirring up
palo/isreal in glasgow why ?
By:
Foinavon
When: 07 Aug 17 22:53
Injera
07 Aug 17 15:41
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foinavon - so you won't answer my question?

I've yet to meet an atheist who will reject the christian reformation or name me a country to be held up as an example to the rest of us.


There are no countries without religion, it is everywhere. There are or have been countries where orthodox religion has been suppressed and replaced by a pseudo-religion with a god-like leader which is the case with Stalinist style communism or Nazism. North Korea is a prime example of this where the "Supreme Leader" is a corpse worshipped like a deity (as was Lenin in the Soviet Union for a few decades).
Western European countries are attractive because the main religion has been emasculated over centuries and replaced with accountable leaders in democracies. Some of the worst countries to live in (IMO) are theocratic dictatorships and monarchies.
By:
aasbff
When: 07 Aug 17 22:59
'Tommy is
trying his best to stir up
hate'

...

He is just stating the truth. The truth hurts a lot of snowflakes these days.
By:
OwnBrain
When: 07 Aug 17 23:05
so you want hate on the streets of Glasgow?
snowflakes Grin i know many so
called snow flakes but they do
business without a Tommy leader.England may
not know how this could escalate but no side will
back down.
By:
Foinavon
When: 07 Aug 17 23:09
GOD CAN SEE WHAT YOU ARE DOING.

An example of abusive language used by many Christians from priests to Zorro and many parents who want to control their children's behaviour. Of course it only works when the recipient of the message actually believes in god and thankfully many don't which is why Zorro is wasting his breath on here.
By:
aasbff
When: 07 Aug 17 23:10
I don't want hate anywhere. I thought you were refering to Islam not some thuggish football teams.
By:
zorrostrikes
When: 07 Aug 17 23:27
how did Marxism work out for Russia - trying to eradicate religion?
how many millions died in Russia?
more Jews died in the Soviet union in the purges than in all the
nazis death camps. then there was the other people they killed for
the slightest reasons. Stalin killed a guard that wore slippers.
When he asked why the guard wore slippers, he said his wife made them
so as not to disturb Stalin while he slept so he could get a good night's
sleep. Stalin's twisted mind was so full of paranoia he thought the guard
might creep up on him at night and kill him?
The film - a day in the life of Ivan Denisovitch shows how he treated his
people in a godless nation.
a Major Soviet Paper Says 20 Million Died As Victims of Stalin.
many more died after him too in the nation that excluded God.
When god started to creep back into the Heart of Russia, the killings
relented?

http://www.nytimes.com/1989/02/04/world/major-soviet-paper-says-20-million-died-as-victims-of-stalin.html
By:
Foinavon
When: 07 Aug 17 23:39
Communism is a pseudo-religion, Stalin set himself up as a God with totalitarian powers.
Mao Tse Tung in China and Kim Il Sung in North Korea did the same. They needed to suppress conventional religion in order to usurp the role of religion with the state system.
The Nazis tried to do the same (Nuremburg rallies) but annexed Christianity rather than suppressed it. They had the blessings of the Pope, could the hatred of the Jews have anything to do with that? Did the Catholic church turn a blind eye to the holocaust? And did they help prominent Nazis escape to South America when all appeared to be lost?
By:
zorrostrikes
When: 08 Aug 17 00:02
Dusty said I called people DOGS?
As usual Dusty twists words in his mind and spits them back out.

I said that Satanists call atheists DOGS.(look it up)(youtube - ex satanists)
They see people who are uneducated in the bible as extremely vulnerable, unguarded
individuals. Dogs, Pets. There is a war between Heaven And Satan's kingdom(earth) and
to not know you are on the battlefield is dense?
People think talking about satanists are ridiculous as if they are a fiction.
Look up David Bowie, he rolled out his satanist credentials in many interviews.
Is he being humerous ? or inconsistent? he said it for thirty years?
Not just him.. many of the pop stars give plaudits to Satan. there's are lists on
google of people who give their allegiance on camera.
The royal navy had to give a crewman a praying space for his worship of Satan. on a
naval vessel (https://www.theguardian.com/uk/2004/oct/25/military.religion)
they promoted satanists too. (http://www.forces.net/news/tri-service/satanism-royal-navy)
By:
zorrostrikes
When: 08 Aug 17 00:04


By:
dustybin
When: 08 Aug 17 04:39
Zorro talking about his own paranoia again.
About his own personal theory that anyone who touches their thumb with their forefinger is a satanist. Cry

What this excuse has to do with the actual fact we were discussing which was about people who neither believed in God nor Satan giving their lives to free people who do, is beyond me.

When zorro called these dogs I had referred to the fact that the Jews had cried out for help and then thanked these people with damnation, using them as stepping stones, looking upon them with disgust.

People need to make their own minds up whether they think this is appropriate.
By:
dustybin
When: 08 Aug 17 04:45
The bottom line is that there is no accommodation for the fact that without the assistance of secular people to respect others rights to believe in what they wish the Jews would have perished, and that assistance wasn't the work of God or mythical intervention, parting of oceans, thunder, lightning or earth quake.
It was non believers sacrificing themselves.
By:
zorrostrikes
When: 08 Aug 17 05:04
God is their protector. not your pagan masses which don't exist as you believe.
the usa is said to be a christian country with 70.6% of the adult population identified themselves as Christians?

the british also used to be heavily christian too, they still might be? Church
attendance might be down though. i personally do not go near any denomination.

the thin blood of the academic english never really were christians, they are
the class ridden society that look around to see who is more superior?
the one upmanship brigade, that sold they allegiances to the Royals.

One final battle with the Jews is all you get? God's going to crush you in person
little anti christ. So keep talking smack about the jewish nation. it is on
your permanent record.
By:
dustybin
When: 08 Aug 17 05:14
What I personally find ironic is how the very notion zorro mentioned earlier about if a civilisation that hadn't had religion had developed without the idea of God might have blown itself up by 1700.....is that the very aspect of anilhilation through the atomic bomb was in no small part a product built with the intent to kill first and foremost developed with a great deal of assistance by Jewish refugee scientists.

The scientists famously said 'science doesn't do politics' when asked whether they should still drop the bomb on Japan after Germany had been defeated.

I guess we can justifiably ask therefore; was the invention of the atomic bomb inverention by God in saving the Jews?
By:
dustybin
When: 08 Aug 17 05:19
I suspect we can argue negative, since had it been why hadn't it been developed in time to have been dropped on those who were cleansing the Jews, rather than delaying it to drop on the Japanese, who wernt?
By:
dustybin
When: 08 Aug 17 05:23
*intervention
By:
zorrostrikes
When: 08 Aug 17 05:59
the trinity testing site?

i see you've taken the night shift on? working harder all the time as the countdown progresses??
By:
zorrostrikes
When: 08 Aug 17 06:18
"Despite some of the comments David (BOWIE) made during his career from talking about dabbling with Christianity, Buddhism and Satanism, he reassessed everything when told he was terminally ill a year ago," a source told The Sun.They continued: "He concluded there was something greater than all of us and it may be some version of what others might call God."This was probably quite comforting. He certainly wasn't scared of death."It was also to religion that his wife Iman appeared to turn on Sunday, posting a poignant message to her Instagram page on the day her husband passed away. It read: "“The struggle is real, but so is God”He reportedly told pals, "you don't get any atheists on the battlefield" in the months before his death. His final album Blackstar, which was released to coincide with his 69th birthday last week, was his "parting gift" to the world and contains many references to religion?

Blackstar includes a witch's curse - well done mr Bowie. Is he a pop GOD ?
Send your worship to D.Bowie, Nice that he mixed all the religions together into
a slury?
http://www.mirror.co.uk/3am/celebrity-news/david-bowie-didnt-fear-death-7169844
By:
Foinavon
When: 08 Aug 17 08:44
One final battle with the Jews is all you get? God's going to crush you in person
little anti christ. So keep talking smack about the jewish nation. it is on
your permanent record.


GOD CAN SEE WHAT YOU ARE DOING, DUSTYBIN. LaughCry
By:
Whisperingdeath
When: 08 Aug 17 11:51
We have just more or less all agreed religion is a man made thing so where is God and what does he want or are we still saying Western Christianity is the right religion? I think it was also confirmed God implied we could eat pork sausages.
By:
Whisperingdeath
When: 08 Aug 17 11:58
God is their protector. not your pagan masses which don't exist as you believe.
the usa is said to be a christian country with 70.6% of the adult population identified themselves as Christians?

the british also used to be heavily christian too, they still might be?
Church
attendance might be down though. I personally do not go near any denomination.


This is a real doozy!

The " Englsish " Religion was founded on a King wanting to get his leg over a younger fresher bird and wanting to tub it!

That Religion was incorpoarted into the State!

If you ask most English people what their religion is they say C of E, not even Church of England, C of E. Many don not know what that means or how their " Religion " came about!

So may this simple fellow please ask again what or who is God and what the hell does he want and where has he or She said it?
By:
portmanpark
When: 08 Aug 17 13:08
The universe is over 13 billion years old and the earth 3.7 billion years.Those 2 facts should make religion laughable.
By:
dustybin
When: 08 Aug 17 13:30
^zorro says God exists outside time and speeded up the boring bits Shocked
Though it does beg the question that if that were true, he alone knew that someday man would ask where the massive disparity in the maths comes from.
By:
dustybin
When: 08 Aug 17 13:37
If we look at the human condition, one where we continue asking questions and attempting answers, even when we know that the chances of finding out the ultimate answer is not going to happen within our lifetime, then we have to assume there to be a reason for this, otherwise everyone would just give up and not bother.

If we are creatures that are essentially programmed at birth to seek out reward and gain a form of pleasure from continuing then either to ask is the manifestation of the devil, or to be given a book of answers must have been artificial.
After all, there's nothing scientific in the book.

So why do we get the reward for progress?
By:
Diff-rent
When: 08 Aug 17 16:18
God's time was once explained to me as simply

Imagine God in the centre of a huge circle and time is that circle ... God is the same distance throughout the ages from the start til the end.

Question: "What is God's relationship to time?"

Answer: We live in a physical world with its four known space-time dimensions of length, width, height (or depth) and time. However, God dwells in a different dimension—the spirit realm—beyond the perception of our physical senses. It’s not that God isn’t real; it’s a matter of His not being limited by the physical laws and dimensions that govern our world (Isaiah 57:15). Knowing that “God is spirit” (John 4:24), what is His relationship to time?

In Psalm 90:4, Moses used a simple yet profound analogy in describing the timelessness of God: “For a thousand years in Your sight are like a day that has just gone by, or like a watch in the night.” The eternity of God is contrasted with the temporality of man. Our lives are but short and frail, but God does not weaken or fail with the passage of time.

In a sense, the marking of time is irrelevant to God because He transcends it. Peter, in 2 Peter 3:8, cautioned his readers not to let this one critical fact escape their notice—that God’s perspective on time is far different from mankind’s (Psalm 102:12, 24-27). The Lord does not count time as we do. He is above and outside of the sphere of time. God sees all of eternity’s past and eternity’s future. The time that passes on earth is of no consequence from God’s timeless perspective. A second is no different from an eon; a billion years pass like seconds to the eternal God.

Though we cannot possibly comprehend this idea of eternity or the timelessness of God, we in our finite minds try to confine an infinite God to our time schedule. Those who foolishly demand that God operate according to their time frame ignore the fact that He is the “High and Lofty One . . . who lives forever” (Isaiah 57:15). This description of God is far removed from man’s condition: “The length of our days is seventy years—or eighty, if we have the strength; yet their span is but trouble and sorrow, for they quickly pass, and we fly away” (Psalm 90:10).

Again, because of our finite minds, we can only grasp the concept of God’s timeless existence in part. And in so doing, we describe Him as a God without a beginning or end, eternal, infinite, everlasting, etc. Psalm 90:2 declares, “From everlasting to everlasting You are God” (see also Psalm 93:2). He always was and always will be.

So, what is time? To put it simply, time is duration. Our clocks mark change or, more precisely, our timepieces are benchmarks of change that indicate the passage of time. We could say, then, that time is a necessary precondition for change and change is a sufficient condition to establish the passage of time. In other words, whenever there’s change of any kind we know that time has passed. We see this as we go through life, as we age. And we cannot recover the minutes that have passed by.

Additionally, the science of physics tells us that time is a property resulting from the existence of matter. As such, time exists when matter exists. But God is not matter; God, in fact, created matter. The bottom line is this: time began when God created the universe. Before that, God was simply existing. Since there was no matter, and because God does not change, time had no existence and therefore no meaning, no relation to Him.

And this brings us to the meaning of the word eternity. Eternity is a term used to express the concept of something that has no end and/or no beginning. God has no beginning or end. He is outside the realm of time. Eternity is not something that can be absolutely related to God. God is even beyond eternity.

Scripture reveals that God lives outside the bounds of time as we know it. Our destiny was planned “before the beginning of time” (2 Timothy 1:9; Titus 1:2) and “before the creation of the world” (Ephesians 1:4; 1 Peter 1:20). “By faith we understand that the universe was formed at God’s command, so that what is seen was not made out of what was visible” (Hebrews 11:3). In other words, the physical universe we see, hear, feel and experience was created not from existing matter, but from a source independent of the physical dimensions we can perceive.

“God is spirit” (John 4:24), and, correspondingly, God is timeless rather than being eternally in time or being beyond time. Time was simply created by God as a limited part of His creation for accommodating the workings of His purpose in His disposable universe (see 2 Peter 3:10-12).

Upon the completion of His creation activity, including the creation of time, what did God conclude? “God saw all that he had made, and it was very good” (Gen 1:31). Indeed, God is spirit in the realm of timelessness, rather than flesh in the sphere of time.

As believers, we have a deep sense of comfort knowing that God, though timeless and eternal, is in time with us right now; He is not unreachably transcendent, but right here in this moment with us. And because He’s in this moment, He can respond to our needs and prayers.
By:
Diff-rent
When: 08 Aug 17 16:28
It's quite ironic really .. Humans grow fearful of death especially the ones who have unfortunately fallen ill ( through no fault of their own ) .

Some non-believers suddenly begin to pray why is this ?

During their lives they have rejected God. But God never rejected them even though none of us are worthy of his mercy.

Even at their darkest moments he has stood by you and me.

It doesn't matter if you are last or the first to believe in God's holy love. All are welcome because his plan is always right and ours are not.
By:
Foinavon
When: 08 Aug 17 16:31
As believers, we have a deep sense of comfort knowing that God, though timeless and eternal, is in time with us right now; He is not unreachably transcendent, but right here in this moment with us. And because He’s in this moment, He can respond to our needs and prayers.

HE ALSO KNOWS WHAT YOU'RE THINKING. SO BE CAREFUL. Excited
By:
Whisperingdeath
When: 08 Aug 17 16:32
Again I would like to quote a Holy man, Ron Jeremy.

Suk my dicke!

Now what did that mean?
By:
Diff-rent
When: 08 Aug 17 16:48
I like what the Pope said. Similar to God has so much Love to give he wishes he could be human so to express this.. This is why he loves humans. Which other creature on earth talks of love and can express love like a human ?

All these other planets and no life on them ? Please explain someone why no other planet has life on it ?
By:
portmanpark
When: 08 Aug 17 16:50
different..Are you for real??
By:
portmanpark
When: 08 Aug 17 16:50
different..Are you for real??
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