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By:
zorrostrikes
When: 07 Aug 17 06:21
By:
zorrostrikes
When: 07 Aug 17 06:22
NEW MADRID
By:
zorrostrikes
When: 07 Aug 17 06:38
I'm here on Betfair, giving a warning, but it's not just me giving this warning.
I'm one of thousands that see what's coming. Go to YOUTUBE. punch in the REVELATION 12 SIGN.

you all think i'm a guy holding up a - end of the world is NIGH placard.

You've been pre programmed by media to ignore what's coming.

I expect a warning to come - God warned NINEVEH.

when the month of Elul ends you are too late.
By:
dustybin
When: 07 Aug 17 09:38
Yeah go to YouTube, and find the most under regulated, untested bunch of cranks and clack bait poachers known of man ffs.

What are those pictures meant to represent anyway?
A path of a solar eclipse that crosses over a seven year period?

Is that supposed to be X marks the spot?
Or just arbitrary visual data hi-jacked to fit a narrative?
By:
zorrostrikes
When: 07 Aug 17 12:03
it shows the revelation 12 sign ending at ROSH HASHANA(the day and hour that nobody knows)the Jewish idiom for the holiday - Jupiter leaves on the day.
A star sign completes on the very day.

Dusty just told you not to look - what are you going to do?
Can i trust in curiousity to kill the cat?

Jesus completed the spring feasts (4 of them)
Three are left - Rosh Hashana, Yom Kippur and Tabernacles.



Dustybin is the boob - he has taken up opposition to God and hopes to enlist support
in his apostasy.

The eclipse is a warning. the USA voted against Israel in December. God is marking the land for a hit.
By:
dustybin
When: 07 Aug 17 13:02
Re-read it zorro.
I didnt tell anyone to not do anything.
I mocked the youtube fraternity for what it is, an under regulated entity of people who cant or dont want scrutiny.

You havnt said why you keep posting the same pictures.
What are you suggesting happens at New Madrid then?

What of all the other earthquakes and volcano erruptions that werent prophesied?
Practice runs were they?
By:
lfc1971
When: 07 Aug 17 13:20
has zorro given a date from the Bible for the end of the world?, I would like to read it.
By:
Injera
When: 07 Aug 17 15:41
foinavon - so you won't answer my question?

I've yet to meet an atheist who will reject the christian reformation or name me a country to be held up as an example to the rest of us.
By:
dustybin
When: 07 Aug 17 16:29
The reformation was quickly followed by the counter reformation and the horrific 30 year war that achieved nothing.

The remnants being sectariansm within the house of the same religion, who cant even agree whether they bread and wine is representitive or literal.
Pathetic really.
By:
zorrostrikes
When: 07 Aug 17 16:31
to Lfc1971 - a date for the end of the world?
the only date for the end of the world in the bible is a thousand years
after the millenium kingdom is set up. Jesus reigns for 1000 years from Israel.
that's after the second coming.

the rapture describes the body of Christ(the bride) rising to meet the groom(jesus) in
the air. this is a separate event. the kick off, to end times.
end times includes - the tribulation aka the troubles of Jacob.

it's described as a seven year period where the Jews are put through the wringer again.
by Satan/Anti christ. Satan thinks that destroying the Jews destroys god's plan on earth.
during this period the mark is rolled out and anyone taking it, and the oath becomes part of satan's evil. All those people will be destroyed by Christ in the second coming.
the end of evil is the reason for the second coming.

this seven year period only starts once a covenant is confirmed? so it might be tomorrow or 100 years from now. my own thinking is it might be around 2037? i understand that Jacob went through a 21 year period of distressing circumstances. if it's already started with the UN vote passed in December? against israel. 

so the world would end around 3046? are you worried about the world? or your own soul?
I'd be worried more about my own soul and those of family and friends? forget the world i say.
God's going to put it through the ringer - meteors, global fires, mega quakes and poisoned waters. the world is part of the fallen creation. it's corrupt, under the curse of death. God creates a new earth at the end. (this is all in the book, i advise reading the book of revelation. it's a small chapter).
By:
lfc1971
When: 07 Aug 17 17:10
zorro. now you know that's not what I asked.
ok , I will put it this way ,
Is there a date in the bible that says when Christ shall return to set up the 1000 year kingdom.?
By:
Injera
When: 07 Aug 17 17:17
dusty - so let's get this straight. You would prefer NOT to live in a UK influenced by Wilberforce, Shaftesbury and dozens of other Christian Reformers?

The print of christian influence on the UK and the world in indelible. Legal system, welfare of humans and animals, gigantic charity sector, hospitals, education, hospices, prison reform, workers' rights etc etc.
By:
OwnBrain
When: 07 Aug 17 17:23
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vxCYegV7UtM

9/11 prediction or guess
By:
dustybin
When: 07 Aug 17 17:39
Injera, by 'christian reformation' I assumed you meant the protestant reformation of the catholic faith, which was a rebellion of a belief that god was just of a worship out of ostentatious elaboration.
This was a squabble because of the questions that remained out of not knowing things, which lead to iconaclasm and a 'god for the poor' as well as one for the rich.

But now I understand what you mean better, I would say that since time travels in one direction, and given the people start out with no knowledge and are quite barbaric in nature then as time passes people become more civilised as the truth emerges from the darkness.

There will be some favourable aspects and some less favourable aspects within all religion, but had science been the first out of the blocks, I dont believe any of the religions would have got a foothold.
By:
zorrostrikes
When: 07 Aug 17 17:40
i answered that.
there are two groups christ deals with...the first harvest.
first group is Grace - called the church, people who believe in Christ now.
by faith they believe. without sight or concrete proof? depending on what you consider to
be proof?
they will be raptured, harpazo, snatched away. it will happen on the holiday
called - no man knows the day or the hour also known as Rosh Hashana. aka as Yom Teru'ah, a day of sounding. like a thief in the night - there are many names for this day in the hebrew calendar.

the second coming is a separate event - harvesting the corners of the field.
the second coming is a day that is contingent on what Satan and the anti christ does. They confirm a covenant with many. The confirm it, not make it. once they do this then Jesus arrives seven years later. It's not known by anyone. when that covenant is ratified? or agreed, then tick tock - seven years? it's a period in which the Jews are attacked. God comes back to rescue them.

There can be only one covenant in place at a time. The grace covenant is ending this year. in 5777. (2017) this ends the church age - that was left in place by Jesus.

can i advise you just read the book of revelation, it would be quicker?
if you read it aloud, they say, you are saved by the hearing of the word. not the reading.
By:
Injera
When: 07 Aug 17 17:44
So where does 'science' get its morality from?

In all atheist/communist countries Ive been to I see a low price on life, a lack of welfare and places I'd rather not visit let alone settle.
By:
zorrostrikes
When: 07 Aug 17 17:48
so Dusty is Science a religion now?

you said if it was first out of the blocks? i thought it had a natural progression.

from the egyptians/babylonians/greeks/romans/christians-secular/tosspots/

were you advocating a rewrite of history where we start off in christ's time
with the Los Alamos experiments... shuffle time about?
it really makes little sense what you say?
By:
dustybin
When: 07 Aug 17 17:54
Well Injera have you also forgotten what occured through out the dark ages in europe?
Portestantism didnt break off until the 16thC, so until that time all heresy and public burnings were carried out by the followers of one christian faith.
By:
dustybin
When: 07 Aug 17 17:58
Zorro, the singularity is the mapping of innovation speed to time, look at the graph, its a flat line until almost the englightenment age, so what I suggest happened was that people sat around in the mid day sun too long thinking ;what might be' and they were the ones who became more vocal, and because people wanted answers there and then they sucked it up.
Science being more rudimentary didnt answer and of the bigger questions, we still havnt to that end, but as Im said before, science doesnt preach, it says this is how it could be, and these circumstances can be recreated under scrutiny.
By:
zorrostrikes
When: 07 Aug 17 18:18
i seem to remember a lot of Scottish Christian scientists like Kelvin and Maxwell.
Einstein said Maxwell was the giant on whose shoulders he stood.

Science took off with the steam age.
before that it was business as usual. are you saying that Christianity held you back? like
maybe you should be on Pluto by now? i think perhaps you are there already, in your bent noggin.
By:
dustybin
When: 07 Aug 17 18:33
Has it held us back in relation to no religion?
Yes.
So if scientists came out of a pious age and gave us great discoveries and deliver us a future where even greater discoveries by people with fewer religious tendencies, theis doesnt tell us what might have been achieved without the spectre of god sapping at peoples consciences and fervent religious nuts setting fire to those who didnt say the things they wanted to hear.

They were a bit like you with you pie charts and prophosies, using semiotics and cloud formations to dictate some sort of story.
By:
zorrostrikes
When: 07 Aug 17 18:35
that's your view? have you considered if the atom bomb was made in the 1700's
we might be dust by now? (atheist viewpoint)
By:
zorrostrikes
When: 07 Aug 17 18:39
nobody is mentioning religion between the USA and NORTH KOREA?

Was Hitler and Stalin killing for religious reasons or because they
wanted some extra land and resources?

Most wars are fought to grab land, pillaging - ask the vikings.

religion is usually the excuse, not the reason.
By:
zorrostrikes
When: 07 Aug 17 18:43




pull it up - i want to see it?
By:
Injera
When: 07 Aug 17 18:57
dusty - I'll ask again - which atheistic country would you prefer to live in, past or present?
By:
Injera
When: 07 Aug 17 19:00
Regarding the Jewish / Christian heritage I can be sure of this..

If I were to ask 100 UK atheists which Middle Eastern country would they move to if they had no choice I reckon 99 would choose Israel.

Why?
By:
zorrostrikes
When: 07 Aug 17 19:08
sharp objects shoved where the sun don't shine might be the reason?

where exactly is this utopian atheist nation that just does science
24 hours a day? Atlantis ?

Doug McClure ruined it all for us. Blew it up?
By:
zorrostrikes
When: 07 Aug 17 19:26
Dusty just proved the opposite of his case.
If Christianity was the cause for Scientific lag - then why did the west
blossom in science so rapidly? The arabs couldn't get past the sixth century?
The Chinese were eager beavers for technology in their history and they stagnated too?
religion didn't restrict them.

the eskimos still making snow cones?

The church was only in Europe?

is the rest of the world feckless?

The JEWS are the driving force in a lot of science, you might say 'blessed' in the brains department. Most Nobel prize winners per capita. In israel, most Doctors per capita too?

In Scotland - they had a period called the Scottish enlightenment -
By the eighteenth century, Scotland had a network of parish schools in the Lowlands and four universities. The Enlightenment culture was based on close readings of new books, and intense discussions took place daily at such intellectual gathering places in Edinburgh as The Select Society and, later, The Poker Club as well as within Scotland’s ancient universities (St Andrews, Glasgow, Edinburgh and Aberdeen)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scottish_Enlightenment
By:
OwnBrain
When: 07 Aug 17 19:45
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scottish_Enlightenment
Cool
By:
dustybin
When: 07 Aug 17 20:31
Injera's atheist country question confuses me.
What is a atheist country, do you mean secular?
If you do then I'd probably say France.

The problem with the question, and zorros implication is that we just don't know, since religion acted like a plague and spread across countries that had no origin, most of the time with violence.
China did extremely well for a long period being without religion and wasn't invaded and came up with a number of things independently that the west later created with killing intent.
Much like they did in Africa or other European states did to one another, or to the Americas....they used weapons to instil a belief by force.
Science didn't do that, science doesn't say believe in this stuff or die.

There was a period of puritanical education, but at the heart was a fundamental belief that only certain questions could be approached and under pinned by non descript rules governing their progress.
When I say the theory of God acting in the minds of those asking questions I mean; how free can the scientist evaluate, and even why would they?
They think they have everything they need already, not to mention the present danger of the madness of others interpretation of something that was never tested in the first place.

The suggestion of the input by the Jews also has added symbolism.
Israel is the epitome of selfishness, period.
The west points fingers at rogue states attempting to go nuclear, and yet allowed Israel to act with impunity.
Israel looks after themselves, and uses others to look after Israel.
By:
dustybin
When: 07 Aug 17 20:44
If we use a simple equation we could say:

History had slow scientific progress and high levels of religion, while the modern world religion is decreasing and scientific output increases.
By:
zorrostrikes
When: 07 Aug 17 20:58
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X5yjf2hjD68

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By:
OwnBrain
When: 07 Aug 17 20:59
zorrostrikes 07 Aug 17 19:08 Joined: 29 Sep 10 | Topic/replies: 8,043 | Blogger: zorrostrikes's blog
sharp objects shoved where the sun don't shine might be the reason?

where exactly is this utopian atheist nation that just does science
24 hours a day? Atlantis ?

Doug McClure ruined it all for us. Blew it up?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2qTyAI99tBE
By:
Whisperingdeath
When: 07 Aug 17 21:09
For meat to be considered kosher under Jewish law or halal under Islamic law, the animal must be conscious when killed.

Sorry to come back to this but I am a little dim.

Are both these religions false or perhaps I should use the current favourable word from America...fake? Not only can you not eat pork with either but you have to whack an animal before killing it. I mean wtf did God intend with this doozy?

Why do eastern religions not mention  eating pork and is it still alright for Christians? Do Red Indians or should I say Native American's eat pork?

Can you choose your religion based on your food preferences?
By:
zorrostrikes
When: 07 Aug 17 21:11
Why am i not surprised at the animosity towards the Jews?
Dusty speaks for Satan's case. The Jews are the proxy people
for humanity in the bible. If you hate the Jew, you hate humanity.
They've been hounded through History for a reason. It's not about
their attitude? If God had chosen the Ethiopians then they would
be hounded. There is less that ten million of them Globally.

Israelis have 16,805 patents. Arabs have 836.
seventy years for israel?
By:
zorrostrikes
When: 07 Aug 17 21:12
http://elderofziyon.blogspot.com/2010/01/israelis-have-16805-patents-arabs-have.html
By:
dustybin
When: 07 Aug 17 21:14
I love Israel.
It's a wonderful creation, it's there to give the other flavour of religious nuts something to aim at.
By:
zorrostrikes
When: 07 Aug 17 22:11
your heading for no way back Dusty, i like that attitude. on you anyway?
By:
OwnBrain
When: 07 Aug 17 22:13
dusty why hate so much?
By:
OwnBrain
When: 07 Aug 17 22:18
You want a war you follow
a man who follows money.
I pray for you
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