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the apostles witnessed a man with extraordinary features.
they all went to their deaths, rather than say... i may have got that wrong, i was just havin a laff. please don't kill me. They stuck to their testimony because they knew this was GOD. They did see with their own eyes. Others went to their deaths,over the centuries, and people who believe today die in regions across the globe rather than deny his name. Their FAITH in TRUTH gets them killed rather than be a coward who cannot face the truth. This was a land of the Christians, it's now a land of Apostasy. there is no standard for truth. Lies are peddled to make a buck. End of the story is here in a couple of months. |
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Im pretty sure I know what your game is zorro.
You have thrown 'all in' into something based on an insecurity. If it comes good then you saved your arse, and any small thing you observe you will attempt to find justification in in the short term future. If there is nothing then you will return as somebody else. I will see you, and you should expect some ribbing, but after that you are as welcome to return in whatever guise you like, not hard feelings when you do. |
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maths does not lie. this is basic number crunching.
jesus? how long is the plan? - it's 120 jubilees. 6000 yrs. jesus? when was israel made a nation ? 1947-48 jesus ? when is the end. when the fig tree blooms, give it seventy years. so its 2017-18 that's three factors. there's 150 factors at play here. there is no insecurity in base numbers. my faith is separate from an event. Satan has started attacking in December, Israel was told by the UN to give up Jerusalem. this just inside the October start of the year. the USA has voted with ISRAEL for 70 years on every issue - veto after veto. Something changed? it's the jubilee year. you've chosen hell Amigo - i gave the prescribed warning. you may turn back after we go. be warned they will take your head. I think though you'll continue eating the lies. |
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![]() damascus - foretold to be a ruinous heap. the bible sign of endtimes. |
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![]() August 21st, eve of ELUL. path of total eclipse - nice of the sun to hit all of the hotspots like that? random of course. |
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did the second world war take place - did you see it with your own eyes?
is Napoleon a real man in history? didn't you read that book that said Napoleon was a woman in drag? if you dismiss one part of history then all of it is dismissible. Didn't you read that Mohammed existed and that he was the last prophet? If you dismiss that, Zorro, then you contradict yourself. Hope that clarifies the matter. |
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no - Jesus died saying it's finished.
no more prophets for the Jews after Jesus. what you have is an angel showing up to a degenerate - Satan fits the bill. a murderer, a child molester, a pillager, a torturer, every sin ticked off in a notebook. NOT A PROPHET. A prophet was someone that foretold events in the future and all of those events happened. It's a strict criteria. jesus was foretold, nobody could do what he did. Mohammad was not foretold, anyone could do what he did. (quote) |
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As a person occasionally glancing into this topic and looking at your comments; I kind of agree with both of you (zorrostrikes and dustybin)
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We can dismiss the claims made about Jesus as you do the claims about Mohammad. Many of the claims made for Jesus nobody could do including Jesus. No reason to accept extraordinary claims without cast-iron proof. That also applies to all the others who claim to have spoken to special envoys from god.
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enjoy hell. you've worked your way to it?
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How do you know our hearts don't win the day all along and the exterior isn't just the armour required to exist in this you believe to be satans domain?
After all you don't see us damning those who disagree, to hell. |
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i'm not damning anyone I have no power or wish to do so - I see people here
fighting God. That leads to hell. you work hard to get into hell, those that accept jesus can relax. hell is going to be filled with busy people, too busy to even consider God. they can't talk now... too busy. Building Hospitals and saving mankind. There's one way in to heaven past Jesus. SAVE YOUR SOUL, not the planet. FK the planet, it's to be trashed. You are looking at the works of your hands and say it's all good. My paintings.. i sell are all ashes. a fire will consume them. All my efforts in the past are irrelevant. they will not buy me a place in heaven. All my good deeds are like filthy rags(Isaiah) These are the things of PRIDE. my achievements? Some people achieve a lot, i'm at the low end. Some build empires and have legacies. It's all for the fire. Pascal calls it all distractions. I love distractions. I've spent my life wrapped up in it. Gambling is a wonderful distraction. Pascal writes at length about it. two raindrops on the window and you bet to see which one touches the frame first. If I sat and mused about God all day long, i'd be depressed. God is your father and he reaches out to everyone? He once loved Satan even knowing what he would become. This is the last JUBILEE. It's too finely tuned to be put forward another 50 years. Continue your defiance but recognize there will be a reckoning? FFS open your bible and see that God is not a monster, he's a father who wants his family home with him. He damns nobody - your free choice damns yourself, if you choose the world and Satan. |
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God knows where I am, I just don't know where he is.
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zero point energy
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At least in hell we won't have to hear you prattle on zorro...............unless of course you haven't lead such a perfect life as you would have us believe
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All fall short - only sinners get to heaven? the self righteous prideful ones are barred.
read your bible - jesus said it - i'm very flawed. no one is a saint yet? But their scribes and Pharisees murmured against his disciples, saying, Why do ye eat and drink with publicans and sinners? And Jesus answering said unto them, They that are whole need not a physician; but they that are sick. I came not to call the righteous, but sinners to repentance.And they said unto him, Why do the disciples of John fast often, and make prayers, and likewise the disciples of the Pharisees; but thine eat and drink? And he said unto them, Can ye make the children of the bridechamber fast, while the bridegroom is with them? (the wedding is in 45 days? lost count, september rosh hashana) why is Zorro such a pain with warning bozos on betfair - Ezekiel 33:3 3 If when he seeth the sword come upon the land, he blow the trumpet, and warn the people; Then whosoever heareth the sound of the trumpet, and taketh not warning; if the sword come, and take him away, his blood shall be upon his own head. He heard the sound of the trumpet, and took not warning; his blood shall be upon him. But he that taketh warning shall deliver his soul. But if the watchman see the sword come, and blow not the trumpet, and the people be not warned; if the sword come, and take any person from among them, he is taken away in his iniquity; but his blood will I require at the watchman's hand. So thou, O son of man, I have set thee a watchman unto the house of Israel; therefore thou shalt hear the word at my mouth, and warn them from me. When I say unto the wicked, O wicked man, thou shalt surely die; if thou dost not speak to warn the wicked from his way, that wicked man shall die in his iniquity; but his blood will I require at thine hand. Nevertheless, if thou warn the wicked of his way to turn from it; if he do not turn from his way, he shall die in his iniquity; but thou hast delivered thy soul. no argument made by me will make you a christian? God does that himself. That's his job. I'm merely supplying the warning. it's times up ladies. you thought the party was forever but the bill is here. If you got a really good deal mr Neymar ask for it back. it's all over, the deal maker is bust. the real owner is back to take possession. you have as long as the tribulation takes... seven years looks like the figure? it might as well wait until September... (carol king) |
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You know I knew you you would say something like that.
Imply that reading the bible would be like casting magic over a person. But it's not as if I havnt read quite a bit of it. Yet all I read is stuff that was written by ancient man. OT - All war and dark vengeance (written by man who only saw this) NT - Collective self preservation and justification of a people, at a time they were persecuted. |
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You have a lot of sanctimony, zorro....yet when asked of your own experience with God you refuse.
You alone shame him, since non believers are justified to question and reason, but you believe, yet deny others of what you think is truth, |
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Zorro is so cocksure he has all the answers he entertains no other views. As they say, pride comes before a fall and his fall will be at the end of next month. I just hope it won't be too hard on him. He will never know if he is wrong about god and heaven as just like the suicide bombers, when you're dead, you're dead and all awareness has ceased. No paradise, no harps, no virgins just empty promises from the ancient and modern tools of coercion.
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the warning was issued - you can think i'm a banana for all i care?
you worked hard to be an atheist, you have no excuses. you've represented the worldly view and satan's kingdom well. you can find Christ at any time. but you issue smack about the bible, calling good evil, evil good. |
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http://www.heavenlysign2017.com/
46 days of the count left the 6000 years are up. end of the church age. |
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46 days !!!! Good job I took my pension early
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Moses was fictional ??
I find that thought very sad indeed. All I ask is.. search your heart and emotions and listen to the truth from inside. And if you still do not believe then that is your own will. Just because outside of biblical scripture, there is next to no evidence in the archaeological and historical record of Moses's existence that doesn't mean they are correct. |
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Yup, to hear God I believe one should relax their mind, their ears and their pride.
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Zorro posts all this as a result of his own struggle with with whether God exists or not,
Otherwise he wouldn't be ashamed to explain his own experience of interaction and proof of God. Zorros shame of ridicule speaks the greatest volume. |
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If you guys want to believe in a sky fairy and life after death that's fine by me. Just keep it to yourselves, please don't inflict such fiction and everything which flows from it on the rest of us.
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Maybe Zorro's just passing on his thoughts on the Word?
If you're not interested, no one is forcing anyone to read it ![]() I am interested and hope he carries on. |
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Telling people they are going to die soon and possibly horrifically simply because they arnt in a certain club or have contact with the creator, based on their own interpretations is surely a hate crime?
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'please don't inflict such fiction and everything which flows from it on the rest of us.'
Foinavon - would you have preferred the Christian Reformation never to have happened? Which country, past or present would you hold up as an example for the worl to learn from? |
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It has taken centuries and some very brave people to loosen the grip of radical Christianity on Europe. A hard won victory but the fiction persists and its high priests have a say in our law-making processes to this day.
I don't mind at all people believing any fanciful old stories if it makes them happy but I object to them being used to control others who might not believe in them. We can see the power these beliefs have in enabling control over others in other religions and this is my objection to them. They are not harmless as some would have us believe. |
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Well said, Foinavon - my thoughts exactly.
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The fiction is you believe Man is in charge of this world.
He lost his authority in the Garden when he believe Satan over God. Your father is Satan the father of lies. He has given you religion and false beliefs and you have put up a barrier between yourself and your father in heaven. Satan has put all his crimes on God's blotter. you've all had years to come to God. To avoid what is coming in the next few months. You've called God a monster and say he's not PC? what a bunch o Muppets. God's description of you being blind is a huge shortfall of your capabilities. Your are deaf as well. Time will sort all this out. The seventh day of creation is coming. on the 23rd of September. 5777. (2017) |
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What happens then to the mentally incapacitated on this earth if they haven't 'come to God', what happens to them?
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the millenium kingdom.
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declaring the end from the beginning, and from ancient times the things that are not yet done, saying, ‘My counsel shall stand, and I will do all My pleasure,’
Isaiah 46:10 You all are laywers - Liars, defending YOUR position. Not God's position. You are the creation, not the creator. Your PRIDE and SELF RIGHTEOUSNESS is the hole in your hearts. It is not a blessing it's your CURSE. yourself over God in all things. |
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Why did God bother with Dinosaurs ? what purpose did they serve to him, what purpose do we serve to him? I say him, it could be her, it, they, anything.
Why allow so much pain to exist? why has a God or Jesus not made themselves known in this day and age of death and destruction? why not resurrect himself again. Simple basic questions I know, but quite important I think. |
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Maybe because it was easier to be real when nobody has a camera to document it all, Chinese whispers and all that.
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The seventh day of creation is coming. on the 23rd of September. 5777. (2017)
Ah so we've got a date then ! Better hold off on my usual pre season bets. |
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Dino what? when I was a kid they were black bones in a museum.
now it's slick animations and they talk to the kids in cartoons. polishing the TURDS. I'm sorry I don't factor in lies from Satan. AS he is described as a Dragon himself. The date has been up for five years - All my posts in the past have had the date. It's Rosh Hashana. Pay attention. 45 days to go. ![]() |