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By:
boxingthefox
When: 16 Jun 17 18:24
Wrong IT on many levels. and don't ask me to explain, i'm having a break everyone is rightfully horrified by this, plenty of excuse makers in the national and local government, they don't need help from this forum.
By:
moisok
When: 16 Jun 17 18:24
gee   i cant even spell foxy!!! grrrrrr!!!!
By:
invicta
When: 16 Jun 17 18:25
MAY deep digging the hole bigger and bigger shes useless

I'm a tory supporter but have to agree.
By:
saddo
When: 16 Jun 17 18:25
I don't know where these people work dusty. My daughter couldn't live decently down there on 22k. I offered to sub her, but she came home and is looking to buy now.
By:
Just Checking
When: 16 Jun 17 18:26
BBC news there the crowd was littered with Socalists Worker anti May anti Tory banners using these deaths for their own ends. No shame these people.
By:
boxingthefox
When: 16 Jun 17 18:26
Exactly hat I've been trying to say for the last couple of hours moisok. Cry
By:
boxingthefox
When: 16 Jun 17 18:26
What*
By:
the.mad.dog.man
When: 16 Jun 17 18:27
if there was an election next week how would they bet now
By:
InsiderTrader
When: 16 Jun 17 18:27
£80k per flat was spent on the refurb. Something clearly not right in how it was done. It is not a money issue.
By:
anxious
When: 16 Jun 17 18:27
Talking about being Political here we have the Tory defenders here again
By:
Hamsterdam
When: 16 Jun 17 18:28
One simple thing she could do is have a fire engine permanently placed outside each of these blocks until they've been checked out. They just sit on the arrse for most of the day anyway.
By:
boxingthefox
When: 16 Jun 17 18:29

Jun 16, 2017 -- 12:27PM, InsiderTrader wrote:


£80k per flat was spent on the refurb. Something clearly not right in how it was done. It is not a money issue.


How the money was misspent was done to death on here yesterday.

By:
ufcdan
When: 16 Jun 17 18:30
I see the Socialist workers party banners out in force, minght be Socialist but worker.........wouldn't know what a job is if it bit them in the ar$e Angry
By:
anxious
When: 16 Jun 17 18:30
This is on the same lines as Police cuts, Social care cuts , Community care cuts etc , its all from the same Ideology
By:
ufcdan
When: 16 Jun 17 18:30
Too cool to work for the man Crazy
By:
Just Checking
When: 16 Jun 17 18:31
Media really have it in for May now, ridiculous coverage. Desperately looking for someone to play the blame game and direct the anger at.

If the architects followed the correct standards then if anyone is responsible it's the people who ran the tests and created the standards that allowed dangerous materials to be used in this way, but that'll be nameless civil servants so not such an easy target for Socailist Worker and the witchhunt.

The woman on the BBC interviewing May is so thin she looks ill, go eat some pies.
By:
anxious
When: 16 Jun 17 18:31
Its going to tough and it will hurt , but you will be all right n the end
By:
ufcdan
When: 16 Jun 17 18:32
If that was the case anxious why spend any money doing up the flats in the first place............mind you had they let them live in a dump they may of been alive today Sad
By:
Just Checking
When: 16 Jun 17 18:32
And given apparently these things are used worldwide it seems to a widespread problem. Does they have an EU kitemark for fire resistance for example that's incorrect.
By:
anxious
When: 16 Jun 17 18:33
Just a cosmetic exercise Dan
By:
ufcdan
When: 16 Jun 17 18:33
Hindsight is a wonderful thing but only fu cking two quid extra for better panels Angry
By:
dustybin
When: 16 Jun 17 18:34
thats profiterring cost cutting for you
By:
anxious
When: 16 Jun 17 18:34
Just like the 5 Billion they cut from Social care in last 7 years
By:
ufcdan
When: 16 Jun 17 18:39
Well shouldn't give eleven billion away to foriegn countries but that doesn't fit the lefts agenda the government being compassionate
By:
ufcdan
When: 16 Jun 17 18:40
To you on the left who are to cool for school where do you do the weekly shop, who provides your tv package, what beer do you drink etc etc ???
By:
moisok
When: 16 Jun 17 18:40
It now turns out that fire brigade equipment was not adequate.  To think those people were trying to get in the building to get people out.
By:
Injera
When: 16 Jun 17 18:41
How anyone can make this political is beyond me.

This is a statement from Rydon, the company who refurbished Grenfall.

"Rydon completed a refurbishment of the building in the summer of 2016 for KCTMO (Kensington and Chelsea Tenant Management Organisation) on behalf of the council, which met all required building control, fire regulation and health and safety standards.''
By:
moisok
When: 16 Jun 17 18:44
but it is political - who legislates.  hope this helps
By:
DickTurpin
When: 16 Jun 17 18:46
Is it only West London that full of Muslims..........
By:
DickTurpin
When: 16 Jun 17 18:47
Cause if its not, God help us.......
By:
saddo
When: 16 Jun 17 18:48
Dozens of Northern towns also.
By:
GoOnThen
When: 16 Jun 17 18:48

Jun 16, 2017 -- 12:46PM, DickTurpin wrote:


Is it only West London that full of Muslims..........


I was in the bowels of Marseille yesterday afternoon. Looked just the same.

By:
moisok
When: 16 Jun 17 18:48
I am here too.  I agree with the protests.  The tory experiment has gone too far now.
By:
winningthought
When: 16 Jun 17 18:48
It has been a political issue for years Injera.

It is a truly terrifying thought but the Grenfell Action Group firmly believe that only a catastrophic event will expose the ineptitude and incompetence of our landlord, the KCTMO [The Royal Borough of Kensington and Chelsea Tenant Management Organisation], and bring an end to the dangerous living conditions and neglect of health and safety legislation that they inflict upon their tenants and leaseholders.
By:
winningthought
When: 16 Jun 17 18:49
Sorry, forgot source:

https://grenfellactiongroup.wordpress.com/2016/11/20/kctmo-playing-with-fire/
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By:
boxingthefox
When: 16 Jun 17 18:49
Injera that's the problem everyone who needed to know that building control and oudated fire reg were not fit for purpose did nothing! National and Local government, architects, contractors, applicators etc, etc, and the victims (survivors) and friends and relatives know that and tried to get the (accident waiting to happen) issue addressed for the last 2 years.
By:
boxingthefox
When: 16 Jun 17 18:51
Sorry winning thought did not see your post.
By:
moisok
When: 16 Jun 17 18:51
You blame blair and then all the following governments. You have all been warned many times over the years.

But this isn't just a muslim issue this is an issue how councils have treated housing issues.

and of course many governments

they, of course will not own the consequences

the people who are owning it are all the dead  muslim or not

our city has been truly fked
tory indifference leads on this
By:
anxious
When: 16 Jun 17 18:52
Perish the thought , the Thatcher Underclass are protesting
By:
leazes67
When: 16 Jun 17 18:52
A huge can of worms is going to open regards sub-letting.A refugee who claimed asylum and then went back to holiday is a story emerging here.
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