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By:
Torquemada
When: 29 Mar 17 16:13
That has to go down as the quickest deleted post in history! I think a few feathery cupcakes on here have me on speed report.
By:
topshot
When: 29 Mar 17 16:14
Yeah Moi would appear Torqs post has been taken down though.
By:
moisok
When: 29 Mar 17 16:15
If you don't fit in with the agenda it will be eliminated. As with the general tv news stations - they don't even discuss the issue.
By:
saddo
When: 29 Mar 17 16:15
I suspect cardiff has a bet with someone over how many times he can insert the word "racist" in one fred. People don't gaf about that label any more, impotent bluster is how it looks.
By:
topshot
When: 29 Mar 17 16:15
Torq Laugh
By:
Torquemada
When: 29 Mar 17 16:17
For the record, it was my post that was removed - in about 10 seconds flat. It contained no swearing, no insults, and nothing contravening the rules. What it did contain was a rebuttal to Cardifffc's inaccurate accusation of racism, making him look a fool in the process.
By:
GRANTCKING
When: 29 Mar 17 16:21

Mar 29, 2017 -- 4:13PM, Torquemada wrote:


That has to go down as the quickest deleted post in history! I think a few feathery cupcakes on here have me on speed report.


Laugh was thinking the same

By:
Torquemada
When: 29 Mar 17 16:21
If only my ego was as large as Studyform's, I would have my words saved, filed and copied so I could post it again! LaughLaughLaughLaughLaugh
By:
topshot
When: 29 Mar 17 16:36
Right, I'm now off for a few beers with some ex squaddies to celebrate Big Al's imminent release.and the tireless work of his supporters and legal team.
Once A Royal Marine Always A Royal Marine.

Per Mare Per Terram.
By:
moisok
When: 29 Mar 17 17:37
Topshot

fkn old booties!!!  Glorified tractor drivers!!!  Always crashing the BARV and damaging nice grey paintwork with their LCMs and LCVPs!!!

all the best!!!!
By:
STUDYFORM
When: 29 Mar 17 18:24
AGAIN AND THERE IS NOTHING AGAINST ANY RULES IN THIS!!!!!!


About 20 years ago, I was talking to a bloke in a betting shop, (who's since died) who fought (if that's the word) in - I think - the Suez crisis.
He was recanting a tale about how he and his comrades overwhelmed a group of Egyptian soldiers.

"No-one could understand the language", he said,
"Them OR us. But they WERE trying to surrender"

"They all got their c0cks out - to show they were circumcised, so we wouldn't shoot them".

He continued, smiling.

"So we cut their c0cks off, put 'em in their mouths.... THEN we shot 'em"

I didn't smile back and the story has haunted me ever since.

Such things have always happened. Particularly when those with the most firepower or most likely victors get a bit of power.
And therein lies the issue. Absolute power corrupts absolutely. Those in charge want the cannon fodder to do things they wouldn't dream of doing and really don't want to be bothered with. As was also suggested earlier, dreadful things - atrocities we can only have nightmares about - happen under the banner of war.
This doesn't make it right.

Now, if the Marine deemed mentally unstable (as was his defence) was - as some of you are suggesting, doing what any soldier would do in that situation, then by definition, he wasn't mentally unstable. Therefore he must be guilty, not least because he said so even as he committed the act.

Where do you draw the line?
Napalming kids in Vietnam? Raping all the girls in Berlin when capturing it? Gassing innocent Kurdish population? 50% of enemy prisoners killed building the Burmese railway?
You cannot decide some is OK and some isn't.

The reason many people are so blasé about such acts is simply because it happens 'Over there'. You lot have never witnessed the horrors happening around the world, often to protect Oil or simply to sell arms.
What I'm not seeing is sympathy for ordinary people. Anywhere.
If the opposition is unable to fight back. Then there is no need to execute. Otherwise there would never be prisoners of war.
By:
cardifffc
When: 29 Mar 17 20:06
studyform...........youll never beat these racists..........its engrained In them............swap this subject to homosexuality is wrong or holocaust denial or any subject that helps their prejudice and you will get the same cast of people............the same bile.......theres one thing these people hate.............being called a racist
By:
akabula
When: 29 Mar 17 20:59
Aye I believe yo SF. What a load of made up rubbish.
By:
akabula
When: 29 Mar 17 21:03
Tells some made up story that he says he got told 20 years ago then says such things always happen.
Have to admit though that the Haunted me ever since part was a nice touch.
These peep would make ye weep.
By:
STUDYFORM
When: 29 Mar 17 21:12
*don't see
By:
akabula
When: 29 Mar 17 21:13
SF having a hissy fit, must be his bad week. Laugh
By:
moisok
When: 29 Mar 17 21:14
Yes,  but the defenders of the cult and obfuscaters are allowed their say.
By:
akabula
When: 29 Mar 17 21:14
Not only a liar but a bore of hell as well. SFs got it all.
By:
moisok
When: 29 Mar 17 21:15
Someone loves you.
By:
saddo
When: 29 Mar 17 21:16
(For the idiot who asked me for proof).


From the idiot who takes heresay as fact because "he wasn't born and we weren't there."
By:
akabula
When: 29 Mar 17 21:17
SF

By:
STUDYFORM
When: 29 Mar 17 21:17
You getting a buzz from trolling (using the keyboard to inflame any situation or conversation), akabula?
Got a stiffy now?
By:
akabula
When: 29 Mar 17 21:18
What's a clunt SF?
By:
STUDYFORM
When: 29 Mar 17 21:22
As I can see, as always, you have nothing sensible, nor anything worth reading to post and you feel like some trolling. I'm going to rise to it no further. I don't want to be responsible for your next orgasm

There's nothing clever in fishing, baiting or trolling.
So I guess it makes you even more stupid than before you started doing it.

Any seethe is negated by your patheticness.
Carry on, knock yourself out.
Please.
By:
akabula
When: 29 Mar 17 21:28
LaughLaughLaugh
By:
STUDYFORM
When: 29 Mar 17 21:30
So, saddo, you ask for proof for everything you're told?
I doubt it.

The fact that you choose not to believe me, or that it flies in the face of your current belief on this given topic, doesn't make it untrue.
Notwithstanding the fact that so many of you want to leap on just one bit of a post that reasonably disputes much of the cheering on this thread.
Still it allows you a chance to ignore the rest.
By:
topshot
When: 29 Mar 17 21:33
Well we have knocked back a few, everybody in the pub was well chuffed with the outcome, including civies who said the verdict is right and just.OARMAARM
By:
topshot
When: 29 Mar 17 21:34
Also a massive thanks to the London cabbies for there support and all the free fares that Al's supporters got.
By:
akabula
When: 29 Mar 17 21:39
Hopefully the army won't drag their heels over reversing his dishonourable discharge and either reinstate him or give him an honourable discharge.
By:
boxingthefox
When: 29 Mar 17 21:56
'The bloke who told me the tale had no reason to lie and was matter of fact. None of you were there and I wasn't born in 1956 let alone getting proof of what happened in the Suez crisis'

A bloke in a pub tells you surrendereng soldiers produced their appendages, and as a result had them cut off and shoved down their throats before being shot. It must be true because "he had no reason to lie and was matter of fact".

Have you any idea how ridiculous that is, guys never drink in pubs, guys never lie in pubs, guys never boast about things they have never done in pubs, FFS cop yourself on and resist abusing other posters when losing an argument/discussion.

I don't recall you using so much text on Dead, British soldiers or those coming back minus limbs. There is no moral high in war and you citing other atrocities in other wars only serves to weaken your argument.

Don't bother replying to me I have no wish to waste any more time on you. Intellectual dereliction is a sorry thing to observe, please spare the other guys on here any further examples. Many thanks
By:
topshot
When: 29 Mar 17 22:18
Hey Moisok, I'm guessing you are a bitter old mate low who could wield a paint brushLaughLaughyou never had to repair any thing that I had stacked I never reached those dizzying heights, though I could turn a mean 360 on a rigid raiderBlushBlush
By:
moisok
When: 29 Mar 17 22:23
Yeah.  I sure did a lot of painting in the early days, before promotion. We will just say Aden and combined ops and leave it at that.

But honestly your lot were always scraping the sides with their bad LCVP steering.  MIND THE PAINTWORK!!!    Davits and booties in boats(LCVPS)  don't mix haha!!!

all the best.
By:
akabula
When: 29 Mar 17 23:21
Aden and Colin Mitchell (Mad Mitch) - the stuff of legends.
By:
guinness2dear
When: 29 Mar 17 23:23
Boxy nails it.

He's already got an honourable dischargs, has he not?
By:
akabula
When: 29 Mar 17 23:26
No a dishonourable discharge G2D.
One of his supporters spoke about in an interview on the court steps the day the 7 year sentence was announced.
By:
guinness2dear
When: 29 Mar 17 23:30
Ah ok, i thought i heard his barrister say they had reversed that with the sentence and that "he" Marine A was especially pleased about that?
By:
akabula
When: 29 Mar 17 23:37
I hope yer right. I never heard the barrister speak.
By:
guinness2dear
When: 29 Mar 17 23:40
I honestly remember that being said on the steps. Or my senility has finally arrived..
By:
STUDYFORM
When: 30 Mar 17 08:28

Mar 29, 2017 -- 9:56PM, boxingthefox wrote:


'The bloke who told me the tale had no reason to lie and was matter of fact. None of you were there and I wasn't born in 1956 let alone getting proof of what happened in the Suez crisis'A bloke in a pub tells you surrendereng soldiers produced their appendages, and as a result had them cut off and shoved down their throats before being shot. It must be true because "he had no reason to lie and was matter of fact".Have you any idea how ridiculous that is, guys never drink in pubs, guys never lie in pubs, guys never boast about things they have never done in pubs, FFS cop yourself on and resist abusing other posters when losing an argument/discussion.I don't recall you using so much text on Dead, British soldiers or those coming back minus limbs. There is no moral high in war and you citing other atrocities in other wars only serves to weaken your argument.Don't bother replying to me I have no wish to waste any more time on you. Intellectual dereliction is a sorry thing to observe, please spare the other guys on here any further examples. Many thanks


1. I wasn't in a pub
2. You are entirely missing the point
3. I abused NOBODY until after they had abused me, calling me a liar, etc. Yet AGAIN some of my posts have been deleted leaving what you are (wrongly) responding too)
4. At NO time have I defended anyone's actions within any conflict or war situation.
5. For some reason, you are using just 1 small piece of my post - out of context - to tell me I have a weak argument.
6. As for intellectual dereliction, you are deluded if you think you've witnessed any from me. In many of the other poats on this thread there isn't any intellect to start with.
7. There's no need to thank me.

By:
lfc1971
When: 30 Mar 17 10:44
This should be the object of the British armed forces, to shoot and kill anyone
who is a member of the taliban. There should be no taliban prisoners taken and no
medical aid given to the taliban, it will be their responsibility.
Anyone who joins the taliban should be under no illusion, they will not be taken prisoner,
they will not receive medical help,  if the British armed forces come across them they will be shot.
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