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By:
zorrostrikes
When: 04 Mar 17 22:18
watched Bonanza yesterday? Little jo and his 'halfbreed' friend... I can't remember the character's name... (Arrested for hate crime)...
were eating a rabbit they caught in the prairie - little jo had it on a spit. Golden brown, tender and juicy. He took the stick that the rabbit was on and ripped the meat in half. Handing the other half to his friend.... then turned to the screen and said...
Fkin Romanians comin over here eating our rabbits... let's take them down. yee haw.
By:
breadnbutter
When: 04 Mar 17 22:20
yea i know the "its prescription" mularkey,thats why they  get away with charging like a rhino forrit , but you can buy it in generic form off the net without a prescription .
By:
kenny mann
When: 04 Mar 17 22:27

Not quite sure what you mean Kenny. So YES, all animal death is inherently cruel if conducted prior to the end of an animals natural life span. Is that what you meant or did I misunderstand.



LOL. you're such an obtuse person. You know exactly what I mean. Overall, would it be beneficial for animal welfare?
By:
kenny mann
When: 04 Mar 17 22:27
cheers bb
By:
zorrostrikes
When: 04 Mar 17 22:32
why is it  the cute animals get a pass?

Dennis Leary... does a bit on this.
By:
zorrostrikes
When: 04 Mar 17 22:35
if we started to eat Tigers there would be millions of them.

currently 3 billion chickens on the planet. they can't even fly?

buy a tiger burger today... we can release half of them back to the wild, some island.

ten million tigers in Australia?
By:
blackbarn
When: 04 Mar 17 22:42
Kenny - I think I understand well.

I posted....Kenny - Did you read the application/appeal documents? My understanding is that meat is the main objective with fur as a by-product. The issues seem to be the suitability of the site and other issues unrelated directly to the breeding and killing of rabbits. Is your objection solely animal welfare based?

You replied... in response to the last point - "Of course it is. Why be cruel?"

I replied....Not quite sure what you mean Kenny. So YES, all animal death is inherently cruel if conducted prior to the end of an animals natural life span. Is that what you meant or did I misunderstand.

You replied....LOL. you're such an obtuse person. You know exactly what I mean. Overall, would it be beneficial for animal welfare?.


LaughLaughLaugh And I'm the one accused of being obtuseCrazyCrazy.
By:
breadnbutter
When: 04 Mar 17 22:45
10 million+ felines in the Uk ,poor native songbird population has withered

Aus has the right idea and will cull 2M invasive feral felines by 2020

how many ferals in the uk ?
By:
kenny mann
When: 04 Mar 17 22:52
I'm getting muddled here. Is the keeping of rabbits in such conditions (see picture above) cruel or NOT cruel. If it is cruel just sign the petition. If you DON'T think it's cruel just say so. Then I can get on with my p/l account for the day. Laugh
By:
blackbarn
When: 04 Mar 17 22:52
Simple change of law required BnB, Cats become Grey Squirrels in law.  May meet a bit of resistance as I am not sure cat is that good to eat.  The fur is good mind.
By:
kenny mann
When: 04 Mar 17 22:52
that;s to blackbarn.
By:
blackbarn
When: 04 Mar 17 23:01
Kenny - Even with a relatively sound campaign, you are struggling here - you cant even spell Gnosall.

Your pictures are not evidence of this planning application are they?   I asked if you had read the planning application documents or the appeal documents.  Have you yet? 

What you are asking people to do is sign a petition you have seen (?) on the internet, on the basis of some unrelated (?) pictures of rabbits in cages which you consider to be cruel.
By:
kenny mann
When: 04 Mar 17 23:04
so I guess that's a no. Will be back tomorrow with response. Stuff to do. 6 cats to feed, book-keeping to do, curry to cook etc.
By:
blackbarn
When: 04 Mar 17 23:07
Night night Kenny - BTW, Rabbit makes brilliant curry; I can send you several recipes
By:
kenny mann
When: 04 Mar 17 23:18
Marks And Spencer mixed vegetable Masala, thank you very much.
By:
breadnbutter
When: 04 Mar 17 23:26
remember to wipe the cat faeces off your bunkers before you start Cry
By:
kenny mann
When: 05 Mar 17 19:22
What you are asking people to do is sign a petition you have seen (?) on the internet, on the basis of some unrelated (?) pictures of rabbits in cages which you consider to be cruel.

They will be farmed rabbits, the smaller the space they are allowed, the more they can keep and the greater the profit.

Do you think they'll have plenty of space to exppress their natural behaviour. Yes or no. And if you answer no, do you think that is right!

Won;t give a simple yes or no answer (nap)
By:
kenny mann
When: 05 Mar 17 19:25
I asked if you had read the planning application documents or the appeal documents.  Have you yet?

No, I have too uch on my plate. I leave that to the experts. If the brilliant "Compassion In World Farming" object, that's good enough for me. Do you think they are objecting for the sake of it? ffs!
By:
blackbarn
When: 05 Mar 17 21:41
You should read the stuff Kenny, it is quite interesting. Not sure I would put total faith in any pressure group, however laudable, but that is your call.

Re Rabbit natural behaviour, NO I do not think that caged intensively reared Rabbits are able to express their natural behaviour, or "hop skip and jump" as CIWF so eloquently and Beatrix Potterly put it.  But, as we know with Chicken, that is the price we pay for cheap meat.
I personally do not buy intensively farmed meat, but if the process is legal, I am ok with it and frankly don't really care very much. In fact it would be hypocritical of me to do anything else, since I dispose of several "bunnies" virtually every month of the year.
By:
kenny mann
When: 05 Mar 17 22:44
ok cheers, blackbarn, till the next time.
By:
not allowed to bet
When: 06 Mar 17 12:26
Anything that improves the supply of british rabbits is a good thing.  Not the chinese stuff they used to bring in.
Love a good rabbit stew.
By:
breadnbutter
When: 06 Mar 17 15:17
TBH there is a problem with rabbits in the UK ,prob went unnoticed by many but wild rabbit populations are in massive decline ,reportedly due to a disease called RHD .

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rabbit_haemorrhagic_disease

The poor coney  has suffering another disease ,of course its not really a native species ,introduced by the romans and kept in enclosures called warrens and used for food and fur they quickly escaped and made themselves at home .
The brutal myxomatosis was unleashed on them in the 50,s and thats the reason they went off the menu ,but they have always been a pop  meat on the continent with strains of domestic rabbits produced that grow much bigger than the wild version .

Kenny we need a diverse food chain ,compassion and emotion in the food supply is going force us down the road of lab produced meat .
Chasing production out of the UK was always a bad idea ,plenty other countries to be putting pressure on for dubious animal husbandry practices the UK has went far enough down that road imo .

The animal rights brigade have stopped  people from hunting there own food ,you cant have your cake and eat it .
By:
not allowed to bet
When: 06 Mar 17 19:18
Or your rabbit and eat it.
By:
kenny mann
When: 06 Mar 17 20:03
my post immediately before breadnbutter's last post has been deleted. Shocked
By:
kenny mann
When: 06 Mar 17 20:06
Good news: since I wrote to you in January, MEPs on the European Parliament's Agriculture Committee have backed a report calling for the phasing out of caged rabbit farming. This is a major step towards protecting Europe’s farmed rabbits.

But that was only the first step. Next week, the report faces the vote of all 751 MEPs. Will you contact your MEPs today and ask them to support the report? We must get as many MEPs as possible to back this report and kick start the process of securing legislation for these animals.

Take action


Last week, thanks to the generosity of our supporters, we placed billboards in 20 strategic locations around the European Parliament and Commission buildings, to ensure that policy makers can be in no doubt about how serious this issue is. They must act to help the 99% of Europe’s farmed rabbits who are confined to cages, unable to jump or even to stand fully upright. Please reinforce this message and take action today to help protect these animals.

Act now


Breaking news: a number of MEPs have backed a new amendment to the report that calls for concrete legislation that would ban the use of cages. MEPs will have the opportunity to vote on this next week, in a plenary session of the Parliament, and we must call on them to both get behind this report and back the amendment.

Email your MEPs


Thank you,

James West
James West
Senior Campaign Manager



PS This report is the best opportunity for farm animal welfare legislation in a decade. Please take just a moment to email your MEPs and help End the Cage Age.
By:
blackbarn
When: 06 Mar 17 20:36
Kenny is any part of your latest post yours, or is it all by James West at Compassion in World Farming. You should be clear when cutting and pasting.  Actually he happens to live just down the road from meCool

Here is an extract on him from Linkedin, presumably written by himself....

"I worked for many years in UK politics before moving into the third sector as Campaign Manager for Compassion in World Farming. In this role I have been responsible for organising exciting and engaging campaigns that can be delivered online and offline across a network of European offices. I have experience of lobbying policy makers and stakeholders in the UK and Europe and I have been media trained. I am meticulous in my planning and able to work individually or as part of a wider team. I hope to use these skills to progress my career and take on new challenges".

Animal Welfare doesn't seem to be his primary motivation does it. I wonder if he eats Rabbit?
By:
kenny mann
When: 06 Mar 17 21:06
Of course it's not my post. Do you really need italics for that?

I trust the man. Would you like me to write to him outlining your "concerns"? I know he'll respond. Of course if that extract is say 5 years old, his views may have changed.I ate sausages 5 years ago.
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