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Knossall rabbit battery farm Staffordshire (Upsetting images)
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Pathetic attempt at attention seeking from Kenny
Might have known you'd come along! Look at the photo. Does that seem to you how an animal should live? As regards the dog, I have another pertition for Battersea Dog's home and forgot to put the link up. Will start a seperate thread. |
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All we need is that ct charwell now, and we'll have the full set.
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Akabula - Not like a vegetarian to rank order living things, but then you started it. So what do we think?
Where shall we put worms and slugs? above or below Whelks? We can slot in Mussels when you've mastered the spelling. Where shall we put Cod and Haddock, above or below Rabbit? 'tis a challenge to be sure. And when we have decided where to put Rabbit, where should we put Squirrel - nastier and less meat but people like them. Gosh, isn't the world complex |
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So you're a vegatarian, blackbarn, or am I getting confused?
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you're getting confused. I can help if you dont understand.
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Not like a vegetarian to rank order living things, but then you started it. So what do we think?
So who's the vegetarian, you referred to? |
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[i]Akabula - Not like a vegetarian to rank order living things[/I
Where do you get vegan from? |
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Sorry vegetarian not vegan
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I think he's lost the plot, aka'. No vegetarians on this thread, as far as I'm aware.
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anyway, the link again, to save many rabbits from a life of horror!
https://www.change.org/p/stafford-borough-council-please-don-t-allow-a-rabbit-battery-farm-to-open-in-gnosall |
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Joint the rabbits (or ask the butcher to do it. If you bought your rabbits from the supermarket, they will probably be pre-jointed, but they’ll also be farmed – tender but not so tasty).
Cut the shoulders and legs off, and cut them in halves at the elbows and knees. Turn each rabbit so its backbone is on the board. Put a knife across the body, below the ribcage, and whack the back of the knife with a rolling pin. If you’ve done it hard enough, you will have cut the rabbit in two. Do the same thing at the other end to chop the pelvis off. Throw away the rib cages and pelvises. You will be left with a rectangular bit of the rabbit’s back, about 10cm long. Chop that in half, across the spine, giving you 10 pieces from each rabbit. In a large mixing bowl, combine the mustard powder and flour with a few pinches of sea salt and black pepper. Toss all the rabbit pieces in the seasoning mix until well coated. Peel and halve the onions. Trim and chop the celery, then peel the carrots. Melt the butter in a large, shallow sauté pan over a medium heat. Add the rabbit and brown evenly on all sides, adding butter as required. Add the onions, celery, carrots and thyme, and cook gently until soft and fragrant. Pour over the ale, topping up with enough water to cover. Simmer gently for about 45 minutes, or until the meat is tender, adding water if the liquid gets low.Once cooked, simmer the liquid to thicken, and stir in the mustard before serving with crusty bread and a watercress salad. |
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You like fish, do you, Kenny?
Watch this: . https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HYuD8GfqFUI The fun bit is from 3.40 onwards. |
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No I only eat oily fish, like sardines,Gallivanter.
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Evening all.
Kenny the non vegetarian says - "Oh no, the eggs let me down. Don't eat meat, won't use leather and drink almond milk, so close, but no cigar + "I'm probably a vegan myself without realising it". |
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Sign this petition.....
74,701 supporters thus far. Good work Kenny Signed |
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last time i ate rabbit was thirty years ago? you've stoked the fires again.
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Kenny the non vegetarian says - "Oh no, the eggs let me down. Don't eat meat, won't use leather and drink almond milk, so close, but no cigar + "I'm probably a vegan myself without realising it". Never said I was a vegan. impossible these days if you use a PC or drive a car. I do my best. Pescatarean with vegan tendencies. Thank you kindly, tictacman. |
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if everyone was a veggie there would be serious problems with the food chain ,a few bad weather years and it would be game over
On the rabbit topic ,what if we had a serious bird disease epidemic on the planet and chickens were removed from the equation ? Rabbit is and always was primarily a food source ,perhaps the way forward is smaller units concentrating on quality rather then quantity but it should be kept and option ,the waste rabbits produce is far less toxic and much more manageable than that of birds. of course there is a wild population ,same as deer they are very under exploited imo . Rabbit is a very low cholesterol meat ,tastes like cross between chicken and turkey |
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breadnbutter - I agree. Rabbit is only one of the three things we should eat more of - Add Grey Squirrel to that and then add all the excess/useless Thoroughbred Bloodstock that currently goes into dog food. This country could be nearly self sufficient in meat.
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Here is an "interesting" lamb statistic...
....in 2013, the UK is the second largest importer of sheep meat in the world, while holding its position as the third largest exporter globally. In 2012 we exported about 10% more lamb than we imported. |
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I didn't know that. Absolutely bonkers.
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Makybe - there is actually a reason that explains some of the stat - its called New Zealand!! British Lamb is seasonal, Spring Lamb thru to Hogget (1yr) and the meat varies over that period. I think our Lamb imports are about 80% NZ so they are seasonally different but also the vast majority comes here frozen, so can be spring/young lamb all year round. I only ever buy British Lamb as if you time it right it is often cheaper than New Zealand.
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breadnbutter, I'm not arguing witgh your reasoning, and I know that these crates are legal, goodness knows how it was approved. But is it right for animals to be kept like this. No, it fukin isn't!.
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Could be worse Kenny, they could be kept in cold, damp holes in the ground.
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At least one quarter of meat on sale in the UK comes from farms that do not have to meet national standards for animal welfare ,in other words imported .I suspect UK produced meat commands a premium and is exported and in return we get fed the rubbish .
That is something i am totally against and we should be eating our own produce ,something that is regulated by us and we know its origin and what it was fed ect .The horsebeef scandal highlighted this perfectly although i cant say the investigations produced a satisfactory answer to where it was coming from ,but did prove the meat chain was not secure and was open to fraud . Thats how the EU intended it imo ,thats why you cant compare like with like and better to eat UK produce and reject imports as much as possible. Lamb is tricky and i dont mind NZ lamb but its hard to tell after its frozen just what it is and how old it is . You cant beat a bit of fresh UK reared lamb ,we go to a local farm that sells its own produce ,a tad dearer but worth every penny . The supermarkets killed the local butchers bakers and fishmongers ect ,but no reason they cant come back . A good buy British campaign would help imo. And yes Blackbarn the invasive Sciurus carolinensis should be on the menu ,no shortage of them,a quality and ethical meal . |
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Thanks for that, Blackbarn.
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Signed.
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breadnbutter - couldnt agree more! Although not sure the supers have killed the proper butchers. My butcher (Sussex butcher of the year!!) is also a grazier which helps. His stuff is like for like no dearer than our local Supermarket (Tesco) for Mince and Sausages, and diced beef and lamb is virtually identical in price and the source of everything is displayed in the shop. Pork is a bit dearer but the quality difference is quantum. I could go on. A buy british campaign is exactly what we need!! Didnt we have one when we were young?
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yea Kenny a hear you but you want it all ways ,no hunting ,no intensive farming ..unless its for pet food and its fine for your cat to hunt but not my dog .
That apart i think we are making some sort of progress here  PS . have you wormed your invasive feline fleabags recently ? |
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blackbarn is fur farming illegal in the UK?
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Or breadnbutter can answer. Yes of course I worm them regularly. Use Drontal and the vet charges a fortune.The 6 cost me £300 a month. Good job I'm a pro gambler.
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Kenny - yes as far as I know. I think you can use skins from wild beasts though, which is excellent (or not) news for all wild mink released into the wild by all the loons that thought it was a good idea at the time. Mink slaughter is one of the primary reasons for the renaissance in the fortunes of the Water Rat (Vole).
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Well it's illegal if it's the main money earner is my limited understanding, but the applicant said it's going to form a large part of the business. Presumably only 49%. Bastards.
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you can get the same ingredient thats in drontal+ off the net in generic form at a fraction of the price
drontal is too expensive |
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Kenny - we had a go at Mink meat as well as the fur, but it didnt work. There is meat there, but not much and it tastes terrible. What I don't understand is why there isn't a national campaign against the Mink. There could be a government bounty of £x per tail; We could revolutionise the fur industry and do wonders for UK Wildlife simultaneously.
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you can get the same ingredient thats in drontal+ off the net in generic form at a fraction of the price
Thanks, I'll run that though my mobile vet,to check, she's very understanding and does not expect me to buy everything from her. She makes enough from home visits anyway. |
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Kenny - Did you read the application/appeal documents? My understanding is that meat is the main objective with fur as a by-product. The issues seem to be the suitability of the site and other issues unrelated directly to the breeding and killing of rabbits. Is your objection solely animal welfare based?
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You need a presciption for Drontal, and the local vet (not my mobile vet, but she is based there) charge for it, making it as expensive as online. Prresumably that's the actual Drontal though.
Sounds fascinating blackbarn. Would it result in less animal cruelty? A simple yes or no will do.  |
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Is your objection solely animal welfare based?
Of course it is. Why be cruel? |
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Kenny - "Sounds fascinating blackbarn. Would it result in less animal cruelty? A simple yes or no will do".
Not quite sure what you mean Kenny. So YES, all animal death is inherently cruel if conducted prior to the end of an animals natural life span. Is that what you meant or did I misunderstand. |