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The first application was blocked, for the Romanian firm to open a battery farm last year, but a new application has been made, and a decision will be reached by the council soon.
This is the petition to object to it. Please sign, won't take 2 minutes, cheers.
https://www.change.org/p/stafford-borough-council-please-don-t-allow-a-rabbit-battery-farm-to-open-in-gnosall
This is the petition to object to it. Please sign, won't take 2 minutes, cheers.
https://www.change.org/p/stafford-borough-council-please-don-t-allow-a-rabbit-battery-farm-to-open-in-gnosall
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An application has been put forward by Romanian firm POE to open an intensive rabbit farming facility in Gnosall, Staffordshire. We the undersigned believe such a barbaric and outdated farming practice has no place in the 21st century and that it should simply not be allowed to come into fruition. Barren battery farming severely restricts the natural behaviour of rabbits. They are unable to hop, run, stretch out, stand on their hind legs (periscope), binky, or even turn around. This is severely detrimental to both the mental and physical well-being of the rabbit, and can lead to many skeletal issues, splay leg, sore hocks or the development of stereotypical behaviours such as excessive grooming and repetitive gnawing of the cage bars. There will be nothing for them to do and nowhere for them to hide. Suffering in European rabbit battery farms has been widely documented, and we do not believe it has any place in modern society.
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Is nobody interested in signing the petition, if not why not?
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Fancy a bacon sandwich now.
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Romanians notoriously cruel to animals.
All should oppose this barbaric factory but the people of Staffordshire must challenge their council on this. |
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Indeed, that's what they're doing
https://www.change.org/p/stafford-borough-council-please-don-t-allow-a-rabbit-battery-farm-to-open-in-gnosall |
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Signed.
Good work, Kenny. |
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I think Jeremy Lefroy is the local MP,time to contact that gentleman and ask him to do his job,represent his constituents.
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this is clearly ray cyst and, anyway, I love a good rabbit stew
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So you agree with the condition sin which they will be kept?
Cheers Makybe, I knew you wouldn't let me down.  |
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Kenny - what are the planning issues here? They won't get consent for anything rabbit-wise that is not legal, will they?
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Just saw this Kenny, will sign.
Barbaric practice. |
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Cheers aka'. No, blackbarn, it IS legal as you well know.
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For the avoidance of doubt, Kenny means Gnosall (in Staffs). Knossall is an irrelevant glacier in northern Norway - well it's not actually, but it sounds better than a name for Kenny's Rabbit farm.
What I dont understand is why people feel the need to farm rabbits when there are thousands available to be shot, trapped, run over and generally disposed of. Wild Rabbit is probably the finest freely available source of healthy, tasty, low fat, vaguely organic, source of protein easily available to the common man. Kenny - you should start another campaign. |
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So Kenny, what exactly are they proposing to do, and what of this is currently legal or illegal. Do you eat rabbit?
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Well, Blackbarn. The Rumanian company who plan to run this barbaric practice, had an application refused last year, much to the relief of many locals, and compassionate people who are not locals, and many overseas people. They are planning to keep the rabbits in tiny cages and kill them for meat, and fur I would imagine. I don't think (but not an expert) that any of it is illegal.
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This is their second application, and a decision is to me made in a weeks time.
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Kenny - you should start another campaign. Too old mate, and I have lots of other stuff to do. |
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I just do what I can, but a waste of time on chit chat! 2 signatures ffs. I'll try horse racing tomorrow,
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and no, I don't eat rabbit, or any meat, well fish now and again, but that's different imo.
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Kenny - my suggestion for another campaign was to promote the availability and consumption of Rabbit meat. Sorry you misunderstood my post.
So, if I understand you correctly, what they are proposing is legal but you disapprove of their methods of animal care. Is this it? |
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I eat fish Kenny and have no qualms about that.
When younger we had rabbit occasionally for a meal. |
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Kenny - Sorry can't resist it. How is fish different to rabbit/meat, apart from the obvious.
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Got it in one, blackbarn.
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Wouldn't take an Einstein to work that out blackbarn.
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So go on. How is wild fish different from wild rabbit.
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Well, I knew you'd ask that question, blackbarn. You're like a dog with a bone. lol
The way I look at things is that some animals that we eat, have horrendous lives, pigs, intelligent animals especially. A lot have good lives until they are killed, but I play safe and don't eat meat, in case I choose wrongly. Fish, however, as long as it's not farmed, have a very decent life until the last moments. Plus, oily fish, is good for you and hopefully will help me continue my good work for longer. |
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aka, blackbarn always comes after me, but he's not a bad lad/pensioner.
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Maybe so but he's always trying to get people to justify themselves as if he's some kind of superior being.
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Kenny - so answer my question - how is wild fish different from wild rabbit?
I dont eat pork "in case I choose wrongly" I am happy to take fish on trust though  |
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Do you eat muscles or whelks Kenny?
I see fish as one step up from them. |
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Aka - I think it reasonable to get people to explain themselves when their posts make little sense. I respect your position, and that of Kenny, in respect of your dietary choices. What frustrates me is when your posts lack rationale or balance.
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That's actually very true, aka'.
blackbarn, how is wild fish different from wild rabbit I've already explained that I don't eat meat for fear of errors. I'm certainly not going to go shopping for wild rabbit, or hunt one down. |
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Do you eat muscles or whelks Kenny?
I see fish as one step up from them. No mate, boneless sardines only. Plus the cats love them. |
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What frustrates me is when your posts lack rationale or balance.
My position is, I detest animal cruelty. It makes me feel sick! That's why I'll have no part of it. If that lacks balance and rationale, so be it. |
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Was just having a look at the situation with the EU and the min standards for rabbit farms and would like to ask Kenny exactly what he is proposing here ,just seems like he is opposed to intensive farming .Unfortunately its here to stay ,I d not agree with many intensive farming methods for many dif reasons .
For example a recently released report on Salmon farming shows that 45 sea lochs in Scotland have been poisoned by this very damaging practice ,ecosystems damaged for profit,but because its a big money spinner its all swept under the carpet.A Aquaculture gets a very favorable press (expesially from the state broadcaster) ,it can do no wrong in the Scottish Governments eyes even though it is laying waste to the natural habitat of a multitude of species and killing other fish ,the food that feeds them is caught from oceans all over the planet and turned into fish flesh at the unsustainable ratio of 5:1. These farms are being ravaged by diseaes and parasites that are impacting on everything around them ,its a disgrace. Anyway ,I fail to see the point Kenny is making ,340M rabbits are farm reared in the EU each year ,the meat produced takes the pressure off other farm livestock and gives the consumer choice . Kenny should be stating what the min standards should be imo rather than simply saying ,not in my back yard (nimby) Furthermore he adds a pic of a starved dog ,wtf has that got to do with caged rabbits ? We can't be chasing all meat production out of the UK to somewhere there are ZERO standards ,if the rabbits are reared here they will be reared to the best standards in the world imo ,and at least we will know what drugs were involved and what the things were fed We need to be self sufficient in all aspects and look to export good quality products reared to high standards . For many of these starved dog pictures there is a unseen story of human tradgedy,mental illness ,drug/alchohol abuse ,family disfunction and failure, a breakdown in the social fabric ,many are just a symptom of a far greater malaise . but all we see from the RSPCA is a lust for retribution by way of a convictionn with the human story swept aside . Of course there are some brutal people around and they do need convicted where its willful negelect but often thats not the case. Noone sets out to starve a dog imo but its got feck all to do with Rabbit Farming . Pathetic attempt at attention seeking from Kenny imo ,seems like he lives in some sort of fantasy land ,a manchild imo |
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Kenny. It lacks rationale and balance because.....
You don't eat meat for "fear of errors", but you eat fish without any such fear and take all you are told on trust - "Fish, however, as long as it's not farmed, have a very decent life until the last moments". |
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I see fish in the same way that I see muscles and whelks Kenny ie living creatures but way down the scale from cows, sheep or any other farmed animal.
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