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'Missing' RAF man
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No news?
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What our heroes have to put up with to save us from crime and criminals ; scrambling over rubbish tips , searching for a corpse in the undergrowth , crawling on their bellies through sewage pipes and the worst indignity , having to go walkies with a **** in a blue uniform.
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Dealing with the scum of society on a daily basis ! Would you want such a job ?
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Anything turned up yet?
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IMHO nobody, no matter how bladdered they are, would resort to sleeping in a large rubbish bin - the smell alone would put anyone off.
My money is on him being killed, then dumped in the bin. I hope they find him for his families sake, but don't think they will |
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Very strange imo that the cadaver dogs haven't been brought in (yet?), not sure I buy the "too many odours" reason why they haven't been, well not after watching that youtube footage of the dogs in the US bypassing the stinking animal meat to find a body 10 feet down!
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Prob because they are looking for the phone and other things and want to do a methodical search
So many things dont add up with this one but landfill search is not over so folly to comment before it has officially ended . Dont forget they are under no obligation to announce anything until they are satisfied as to whats occured |
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Police searching for missing airman Corrie McKeague have finished looking through a landfill site, where it was thought his body may have been carried, sifting through nearly 3,000 tonnes of waste.
Corrie was last seen in Bury St Edmunds in the early hours of September 24, and police have been hunting for him since, at a cost of more than £1million. Now investigators say they will extend the areas of their search. - Daily Mail today. |
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A delivery driver claims to have seen him an hour after the last confirmed sighting. Apparently he reported it to the police at the time but appears they weren't convinced.
The driver (if it's him) and his wife, have posted comments at the bottom of this report. http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4549358/Delivery- man-spotted-missing-Corrie-McKeague.html |
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So a heavy bin can simply mean it's got a lot of rubbish in it.
Every day is a school day for some on here. |
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Became rather comical there , daily mail commenters suggesting the delivery driver was doing some dogging and his Mrs registering to protest
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He is a Newmarket man and has posted about this on some other local sites.
I believe he suggests he couldn't remember the exact date or time but was adamant about the clothing. He also says it was very cold and whilst I appreciate it would be cold at around 5.00 am, it was actually unseasonably warm that weekend in September last year. There were other sightings reported around the area which turned out to be negative. I imagine the police would have looked into the sighting and decided it didn't fit in with the timelines they had. They wouldn't necessarily have gone back to Mr Hawes unless they wanted further information/clarification. Eye witness statements are notoriously unreliable. There are also many people who want to be "involved" / want to help. I remember when Holly and Jessica were "missing" a Newmarket taxi driver reported he had seen them in the back of a car, struggling and distressed. He couldn't possibly have seen them. |
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Yes i recall that Squares .
There was also a lady who said she had seen them walking down a country lane the following day , again impossible. With these high profile cases some people have an overpowering urge to be involved by possessing some crucial info . The worst example i saw , though can't recall the precise case ,was when there was a Crimewatch reconstruction of a murder , and a woman responded to the appeal by saying she'd seen the victim in a certain place at a certain time. The police thought her quite credible . Later though when they caught the guy who'd done it , it turned out , if she was truthful , that the guy had a cast iron alibi . She ended up being called as a defence witness . She broke down in the dock and admitted she'd made the whole thing up . So the police may well be right in not taking Hawes seriously .Though i'm not too confident they are doing a good job with this. |
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The police said the timings for when he claimed to see him failed to tally with where his mobile said he was at that time. Seems to presume that the two items were still co-located. Maybe the evidence (or lack thereof) is starting to suggest that is an incorrect assumption to make?
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eye witness accounts are unreliably even from people who do witness things ,people that are present can give vastly differing accounts of what they thought they seen.
often these can be explained ,colours of cars and cloths in general under varying light conditions ,street lighting can produce strange effects of colour perception on diff people for example .Likewise people travelling in a car getting a momentary glimpse can also be unreliable. What did come out was that others were dressed in similar fashion that night and it seems there was even someone dressed similar ,of similar height and build and hair colour that was out in the pubs and clubs that night Squares suggests that night was "unseasonable warm" ,but these things are easily verified and one thing i know about that weekend is that it was the autumnal equinox and cant rem such a marked change from summer to autumn in one weekend here in Scotland . If you care to check the historical temp data for the location in question Squares ,you will see that the 23rd had a dip in the early hours ,down to 7c from a daytime high of 21c ,the 24th was similar with a marked change after midnight down to just below 10c ,thats still cool ,about 2am the temp had dropped and a cool breeze came on by 3am ,this was noted by several people that were out that night and added to the theory that CM could have been seeking shelter from the cold ,in fact many people thought he was jogging to get warm on his way to the bin area but this was initially denied .Turned out he was running/jig jogging. It was not unseasonably warm,it was unseasonably cool ,and in the breeze (wind chill) prob felt cold ,at least two people that were out at the exact time he was last seen also said a cold breeze had got up ,also if you look at that last vid you can see the corner of his shirt blowing up just before he enters bin area. As mentioned others said it was a warm night and they were not far from the location ,but these people were indoors ,some buildings hold heat and keep it well into the night ,they were mistaken . |
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This was from the Mirror report on it:
A force spokesman said: “Police have the report, the time given was prior to Corrie’s phone leaving Bury St Edmunds. There was nothing to link this to Corrie.” http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/delivery-man-saw-missing-corrie-10511835 Which seems rather dismissive, and isn't the same as saying: we investigated this thoroughly and viewed all CCTV images from the ESSO station and surrounding area... I mean, what if Hawes was wrong about the time but right about seeing him? |
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Police press conference at 3 o clock with an update.
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Search called off at the tip, nothing found.
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Det Supt Elliott said police had spoken to one witness who had previously found Mr Mckeague asleep in a bin and he had been known to previously sleep on park benches, in toilets and stair wells.
What would possess anyone to do this ? He wasn't homeless ! |
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certainly all very strange.
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Anyone else get the impression that the female detective in charge of the case, has carried out the investigation with an inordinate level of reluctance? I get the impression that she would have shut the case down within a couple of days, if she could have got away with it. I've rarely seen so much "get me out of here!" body language from an officer supposed to be attempting to solve a case.
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An airman who disappeared 10 months ago was "known to sleep in rubbish on a night out", police have said.
Corrie Mckeague, 23, has not been seen since a night out in Bury St Edmunds last September, when CCTV showed him entering a bin loading bay. Suffolk Police has confirmed its search of waste at Milton landfill was at an end. Mr Mckeague's family say they are "devastated" at the news and disputed claims he would have slept in a bin. Police said all the information "points to the fact Corrie was transported to the landfill". Det Supt Katie Elliott said the landfill search for Mr Mckeague had been "systematic, comprehensive and thorough". She said: "Corrie had been known to go to sleep in rubbish on a night out. There is no evidence to support any other explanation at this time." Responding to the news, Corrie's father Martin Mckeague posted a statement on his Facebook page saying: "The McKeague family in Scotland is devastated by today's announcement. "At no point did we think that the search of the site would end this way, and as all the evidence tells us that Corrie is somewhere in that landfill site, we are heartbroken at the thought that we may not be able to bring Corrie home together." His mother Nicola Urquhart said: "I have tried really to put my trust in them (the police) but to say I am devastated that they are now saying they think he is still in there but they are going to stop searching, I cannot begin to explain how that makes me feel." She said she did not believe there was "evidence" he slept in bins. Police say they will now search previously incinerated waste and carry out a review of the investigation for any fresh leads in the case |
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DRINK facts ,people out of their heads on drink will sleep anywhere,I have know several people who go out like a light when they hit a certain level
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You are right Benny . I fell over in the snow and made myself a pillow of the stuff . Thankfully I was found on the pub steps at closing time . By all accounts I raised merry hell when I was woken up.
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I find it hard to believe a lad who obviously cared a lot about his appearance would sleep in a bin - regardless of how paralytic he was. He would have just slept in his car instead. Or maybe gone on an internet hook-up. Regardless, if it was simple "asleep-in-bin" tragic accident like the police suggest they would have surely found his remains and / or his phone at that waste site but apparently neither are there
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I find it hard to think anyone would sleep in a bin, the smell even when drunk would be unbearable
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Seems the Plod are clueless and have made a complete mess of this investigation...
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Dunlaying has explained it , There are certain People who when they drink get to a point and the wheels fall off Wild horses wouldn't wake them, they will sleep anywhere his friends have said he was known to crash out on the street and make his way home in the Morning .. Pain spot on Also
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Bin vs Car
One is secure, clean, comfortable-ish, convenient, easy to get in. The other is a bin |
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Pished Drunk in Car = NICKED
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car - intoxicated = dd ban = lose of career
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No chance if you were not in the drivers seat
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only need to be in it and keys
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Practically highly unlikely you'd even be noticed, let alone not just given a verbal warning, let alone a conviction ... but not worth arguing about. Point remains - they were pretty certain they'd find him at the site, they've finished searching the site and he's not there
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Doesn't mean hes not there, means they havn't found him.
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Doesn't mean hes not there, means they havn't found him.
Still think it's the most plausible scenario with the evdience available and that's where he is. |
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Me too, dont fancy it ever being solved now.
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if they thought he was in the sea, would they keep looking for him?
No |
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Seams to be a few Misplaced Skulls Knocking around these tips .
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