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'Missing' RAF man
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Most murders are committed by spouses, family relatives acquaintances. If this is not the case the police must rely on "information" No info = no culprit detained unless very lucky. Don't blame the undermanned, underpaid police. btw did you know that most of Hendon Police College (as mentioned in that excellent film The Wrong Arm of the Law wot has been shown on tv recently) has been sold off for flats and offices. Shows you where the government's priorities lie!
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' ....Police searching for missing airman Corrie Mckeague say they are "confident" his body will be found at a landfill site.....'
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I wonder how many bin bags they will have to root through before they find the body?
Could not happen to a nicer bunch of lads. |
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not even a drink in the sun on the algarve to compensate
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Have they said why they're not using cadaver dogs to assist with the search?
Seems strange that they employed the dogs on the earlier searches, but now they seem to have an idea where he might have ended up, the dogs aren't being used  |
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read something the other day george about the dogs not being able to operate because of the overiding smell of the tip.
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GC, I was watching something on Youtube a few weeks back, where cops in America were looking for a body, suspected to have been buried somewhere on a large estate covering several acres.
Anyway, the cadaver dogs reacted to a certain area, so they started digging and when they got to about 5 feet down, they came across a load of rotten (non-human) meat! However, the dogs weren't interested and kept pawing and sniffing away, so they kept on digging, and when they got to around 10 feet down, would you believe it, they found the body! Hang on a tick and I'll see if I can find the link. |
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You'll have excuse the bit at the start, I don't know what's going on there!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mWdDMp2JgGU |
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Something fishy about this whole episode.
Almost as if the cops are muddying the trail intentionally. The obvious seems to be continueously discarded in this investigation. |
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Anybody offering odds on this 1.01 yet?
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Too smelly for cadaver dogs? It has been unseasonably warm. Could not get much better unless , of course , the corpse had already been relocated.
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Anybody offering odds on this 1.01 yet?
Stupid boy |
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I'll take that as no then Zen. Just as well this isn't a betting site that your spouting nonsense about certainties without being willing to lay a bet. Otherwise you'd look a right mug.
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This is also the chit-chat forum where even the scroats that scrape the barrel realise that pricing up whether a corpse will be found at a waste disposal site is rather desperate.
You know that all the evidence now points to Corrie being in the bin and that the bin unloaded it's contents at the dump. You are just looking desperate for someone to offer you 1000. Stupid boy. |
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No it's a betting forum. When someone talks nonsense about something being a certainty or as if it has already happened then they get called on it. Regardless of the subject they look a right bull**** mug if they can't back up their position. All the evidence? A heavy bin and a mobile phone traced near the area. Well blow me down that's a sure thing.
I personally think it's more likely they won't find a body at the landfill but I'm happy to be wrong on that. You however are just a bull**** mug who slavers on about certainties like the worst of the degenerates on the horse racing forum because one day you may get it right. |
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"I personally think it's more likely they won't find a body at the landfill but I'm happy to be wrong on that."
 Classy... |
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So because this is a betting site you suggest we all should put our money where our mouths are regardless o the subject?
How long have you been an addict Shrewd_dude? have you considered that you have a problem? |
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By the way, it's not just a heavy bin. The extra weight calculates to the body weight of Corrie.
Anyway, you crack on gambling your life away on everything you disagree with, regardless of the subject. You must be a joy to be around. |
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So because this is a betting site you suggest we all should put our money where our mouths are regardless o the subject?
How long have you been an addict Shrewd_dude? have you considered that you have a problem? No. My problem is with bull****s talking nonsense. If you are going to talk about something as if it's a certainty then at least back it up in some way. ScaredScaredScared Classy... It's classier than jumping to the definitive conclusion that his dead body is at a landfill site just so you can be one of the first to get a dig in at the police. |
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By the way, it's not just a heavy bin. The extra weight calculates to the body weight of Corrie.
Whats your source for this extra weight calculation being relevant? As far as I'm aware the initial load was 11kg and this was false data. The actual load was over 100kg. 11kg was not a calculation at one point then another calculation at another time was over 100kg. The 11kg was wrong and over 100kg was correct. They're not two different weights at two different times according to what I've read. |
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You have serious problems Shrewd, everyone in the investigation now know what the outcome will be.
The family includes military specialist on the case. Yet you call this nonsense. Is it worth anyone actually conversing with you anymore on this subject? |
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Commenting on the developments, the mother of the 23-year-old, Nicole Urquhart, said the search could “only mean one thing”.
“We know we are going to find Corrie in the landfill. There's just no way realistically that Corrie was not in the bin,” she added. You better contact the mother Shrewd and tell her she is talking nonsense. |
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I'm not calling it nonsense they may find him there. I'm saying you are talking nonsense by saying everybody knows what happened and it's a certainty without actually backing this up with anything. There is clearly a chance he will be found there but to say that's a definite and to criticise the police on the basis simply because they are now investigating this line of the enquiry is in my view very presumptive
You can't seem to answer questions and back up things you say with any evidence but still it's certainty according to you. Sound again like some mug on the horse racing forum who throws around "everyone knows who will win" so you can get an ego boost if you are right. Quoting the no doubt extremely upset and traumatised mother of a missing person to back up your reason for being sure they will find the body there is not really supportive of your position. |
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had a look at some vids on you tube of a biffa truck emptying bins of the type in question
The hydraulic mechanism is automated and once that bin is tipped and on its way down there is a brutal blade that comes down with a cutting and clawing motion that is designed to break objects and claw them into a hopper ,than another ram compacts the contents ,its not the second ram that would do serious damage its the first. There would be serious bodily damage imo and what i dont understand is how no DNA was found in this vehicle ,human body has around 10 pints of blood and even if only 3/4 were lost its a lot of evidence .These trucks must have some sort of sump to contain liquids ,they could not be spilling waste on the road and prob have a way of containing fluid ,if the police went over that lorry and did not find any evidence of him then i must say i find that troubling ,suppose it will all come out in the inquest and doubt we are going to get any more on it till then . As for you shrewd dude ,dont bother replying to this ,i cant be ersed being trolled by a mug like you . please bore off ,you have nothing to offer this thread |
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Bread you're a **** but you are like a broken clock some of the time.
I'd find it very surpising if a 90kg person could be crushed and compacted in a bin truck along with a mere 10kg of other rubbish and no forensic evidence be left of human remains even if the truck wasn't examined until a week later. It's a certainty though. Everybody knows what happened. |
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I still don't understand why anyone thinking of having a kip at 3.30am would choose to kip in a rubbish bin
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Quoting the no doubt extremely upset and traumatised mother of a missing person to back up your reason for being sure they will find the body there is not really supportive of your position.
She is an experienced liaison officer and Corries uncle is an ex military investigative professional. It is more than likely a NAP that they have gathered more information on the matter than some contrary gambling addict like yourself. |
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Well it's certainly helped them so far hasn't it.
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They were not in charge of the search, and they were working with initial information which has now be deemed to have been incorrect.
I am sure that the new evidence that they have been presented with is more substantial than what you have. |
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It probably is. But given this is a very bizzare 6 month old missing person case where a lot of contradictory information has emerged at different times and numerous theories and lines of enquiry have been proposed or followed I fail to see how anybody could now say with certainty they know what happened and that this new line of enquiry will definitely bear results.
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The only problem with your last post is that you believe that you receive the same information as those close to the case.
You absorb the information you have seen as contradictory mainly because you are not receiving the full picture. Not all is revealed to the public as you should know. The family will hold more information than you or i, therefore when the family and police accept that he is in the waste disposal area then it becomes clear that they have a clearer picture than us. Not forgetting that the family are now dropping all their other possibilities completely. Why would they do that? |
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Whatever the outcome i very much doubt the police are going to be covered in glory. Seems yet another case where they have screwed up .
The documentary on gay serial killer Stephen Port is still on iplayer http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/p04frgq1/grindr-killer-how-i-discovered-a-serial-murderer The incompetence of the police in that case is almost literally unbelievable . It sounded bad at the time i first read reports but i assumed they at least got the guy in the end , but as that programme shows , the case was basically solved by the sisters of the last victim , 2 girls in their twenties . One body found outside the guy's flat , 2 more practically around the corner ( both found on different days by the same lady walking her dog! ) . The ineptitude was so staggering that i anyone made a movie of the story the director would have his work caught out to prevent it being a comedy. |
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The poor standards of police detectives is the result of their only recruiting from uniformed police.
Police Constable/Detective require totally different skillsets. It would be like someone who wanted to be a pilot for an airline only being considered if they'd worked 10 years as a steward. |
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99.9% of crime is solved by word of mouth. Whether it's grass's or the villains bragging. Whatever the stats - plod say..
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No doubt they have got far more information than has been released publicly Zen Master.
I struggle though to understand how you can on one hand believe the police to have been grossly incompetent throughout the case but now have unrelenting faith in them to now know for certain what has happened and that his body will be found in the landfill site without actually knowing what information it is that is leading them to form that view. You seem to be placing a lot of faith in the words of police officers (or the family who are no doubt receiving their info. from the police) who you have previously described as having acted with the utmost incompetence throughout the case. |
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It's not just the police now is it Shrewd?
Corrie's mother and uncle have been working a parallel line for a while now and of course she has been open to other possibilities of where Corrie ended up. That has all ceased now. I doubt mother and uncle (ex military investigative) are simply taking what the police have presented them without thoroughly weighing up the data themselves. |
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incident in my area last week woman and her child dragged into a car in broad daylight driven away raped by both men whilst kid was present then dropped on an estate neasr by 6 hrs later,police hitting the tv stations be careful on the streets ,dont go out alone blah,blah,
every man and his dog new there was to this than met the eye and it was 99.9% certain they all new each other,after 3 days of panic on the street police say they are no longer looking for 2 men,case has taken a different route and all the people were known to each other,3 days of panic,worry for zilch |
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