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By:
appformat
When: 15 Jul 16 13:23
shocking scenes Sad like a scene from a horror movie.
Condolences to all the families that have lost loved ones.

Think its important to remember here though, theirs Muslims and theirs radicalized Muslims.
The fact that we've been bombing the arse out of some Muslim countries in recent years, killing many thousands of innocent people only pushes more towards radicalization.
By:
zorrostrikes
When: 15 Jul 16 13:29
Apologizing already?
By:
Davy
When: 15 Jul 16 13:32
The terrorist in this instance was Tunisian/French when did we bomb Tunisia?ISIS are throwing gays off rooftops in Syria because of....Isreal?
By:
zorrostrikes
When: 15 Jul 16 13:33
Mars attack.

akk akkk - we come in peace.

more dead.

akk akk we come in peace.

Muslims say all are born Muslim and remain muslim
until they disavow Allah. Choosing something else.

If you don't believe in Christ or the Buddha?
you are muslim. at least that's how they see it.
By:
Davy
When: 15 Jul 16 13:34
What did the Yazidi in Iraq do to deserve their genocide at the hands of Islamists?
By:
dukeofpuke
When: 15 Jul 16 13:34
sunils and shias have been getting it on for centuries
By:
Just Checking
When: 15 Jul 16 13:35
"It's out fault" is what the Grauniad/Indy have been telling these people for years.
It's always the west's fault. They are as brainwashed as IS.
By:
geordie1956
When: 15 Jul 16 13:37
How anyone can do these sorts of things to innocent people and children is beyond me

I'm afraid it time for civilised democracies to take out those who we know intend to cause harm - when I say take out I mean permanently. There are many groups under surveillance who haven't been arrested because as yet they haven't committed a crime but who have the intent and the will to do so sometime. We will never catch all these "individuals" because sometimes they act alone but those who organise with others we can do something about because they will be on our radar and sometimes the normal levels of the "law" have to be circumvented for the greater good.
By:
sixtwosix
When: 15 Jul 16 13:38
The new PM has seamlessly spouted the usual drivel of her predecessor , shoulder to shoulder , united in grief , horrified .......no doubt hashtags ,candles , arms linked walked to follow.

National leaders are there because they are expected to be at their best at the worst of times , not very likely with the rabbits in headlights , politically correct clueless soundbite buffoons in charge of the western nations.
By:
zorrostrikes
When: 15 Jul 16 13:56
My boss had a furniture removal van - 8 tonnes. And he anchored it with a chain to a post every night with a monster chain. I always thought this over the top. But thieves
tried to steal the van three times. One even managed to cut the chain with a grinder or hacksaw. But couldn't get away with it - the boss also put in a cut off switch for the ignition. before starting the truck you had to press the hidden button.
the truck was at the bottom of the yard, they pushed it away?
He did all this because he had a truck stolen previously. Maybe trucks should come with
a pin code. Might stop trucks getting stolen.
By:
Davy
When: 15 Jul 16 13:57
How is it possible that a guy like Anjem Choudary, an ISIS supporter is allowed to walk the streets of Britain?       Oh, because of the likes of the Guardian who are against something as simple of Prevent, the strategy aimed at countering radical ideas in schools.
http://www.theguardian.com/politics/2016/jul/13/human-rights-group-condemns-prevent-anti-radicalisation-strategy
By:
john92
When: 15 Jul 16 14:06
We need a better hashtag this time. Better than #jesuischarlie or #prayforparis. A better hashtag, another vigil and hugging a few more Muslim strangers will stop it all now. I know it will.
By:
Slicer
When: 15 Jul 16 14:07
He was known to the police but NOT intelligence services. When are those "known to the police" gonna be rounded up before they carry out these atrocities. The answer is NEVER!This scum has more human rights than the victims!
All the candle lighting and praying won't be as effective as eliminating with extreme prejudice. Sadly we with common sense must dream on!
By:
Davy
When: 15 Jul 16 14:10
Those who claim radical Islamism is a reaction to the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan really, really need to look up the Algerian Civil war.A horrific conflict which was started in 1991.What did the massacre of Bentalha have to so with western foreign policy?
By:
Slicer
When: 15 Jul 16 14:11
Oh yes-I forgot to mention that the media have introduced "mental illness" into the equation. At least the BBC didn't get up to its usual tricks of sayingthe perpetrator was "asian"! These are death hungry muslim terrorist scum. Too many are frightened to call it as it is!
By:
Davy
When: 15 Jul 16 14:16
Ah yes, "Asian" gotta watch out for those Koreans and Japanese Crazy
By:
stickyvicky
When: 15 Jul 16 14:22
John92 @ 2.06.......Saw #prayfornice  a half an hour after the actual event last night.
By:
john92
When: 15 Jul 16 14:26
#PrayersforNice currently trending.....

Same old cycle every time. Everybody needs to get real and put all options on table no matter how uncomfortable.
By:
Slicer
When: 15 Jul 16 14:33
The perps WANT to die. Any sane person WANTS them to die. So lets kill them all and everybody is happy!
By:
Burton-Brewers
When: 15 Jul 16 14:51
I'm sure the Eiffel Tower will be looking pretty tonight
By:
Slicer
When: 15 Jul 16 15:08
Compared to the Hijab clad women- I agree with you!
By:
Satrus_Froot
When: 15 Jul 16 15:44
Typical delusion from the UKIP disciples. I.S kill muslims all the time, far more than any other race or religion. They've killed over 140 in Baghdad just two weeks ago, but of course you turn a blind eye to that one as it doesn't fit your far right agenda. It's no conspiracy, it's just the truth and the truth you clearly don't like. Whether ISIS has anything to do with this particular attack is not clear, but I cannot fathom how a fully grown adult cannot see that a western government (or any government) is corrupt right through. And there's people on here that think channel 4 and the BBC have a leftie agenda Laugh Imagine how far right you must be.

Can someone please tell me why the despicable nation of Saudi Arabia are our biggest customers in the regard of export of arms? We have such a flourishing relationship with a king of human rights abusers and you're cool with that? Wahabbi's are the problem, it's "a movement" that they believe to be within Sunni Islam that is adopted by extreme crackpots whose ideologies ultimately paved the way for ISIS to form, and it's all based on them holding some warped extreme view of how everyone should view the Quran. That in no way makes Islam "evil" it makes the Wahabbi/Salafi f'ers who misinterpret a (pure fictional) book evil to see their own kind of sick purpose. Also lets not forget the role the Iraq war played in the formation of ISIS either. But is it any wonder I.S was born out of a movement that believe in the guillotine, stoning, the death penalty, some of which the far right want to re-introduce here in blighty? What a great society to bring children up in who think there's nothing wrong with it.

Appformat is correct, bombing the likes of Iraq, Afghanistan, Syria etc is only going to push those who remain towards holding extreme beliefs. What else have they got? As ridiculous as it sounds joining ISIS gives them something, something they wouldn't have had considering so many lose everything.

Back to the arms, where do you think I.S get them from? They're not arms manufacturers are they, nor are any of the nation's in the middle east. The west, particularly America manufacture many of the largest and most destructive weapons on the plant at a very consistent rate, and it's no surprise to see I.S running around with their gear. Why are we still selling weapons to extremists like the Al Saud who clearly have had dealings with I.S in the past? When they're killing not only our civilians but thousands in Asia too. Now it's at a stage where I.S are at a size where they're self sustaining thanks to the assets they have engulfed over the years like oil and wheat.

It's as simple as more bombings (terrorism) in the middle east = more terrorism in Europe. It doesn't take a genius to work that out and it's been called after Hebdo, after November and it's going to happen again many more times. I.S will love it because they know their army of cretins shall be getting bigger and bigger, and why would western governments care when they're making silly profit for selling arms, with the bonus for them is it keeps everyone dumb with brown people getting the blame. It's not a conspiracy it's just how it is. I don't think May, Merkel or Trump could care less if some dirty peasants get massacred in the south of France, they know they won't be targeted. And look, if FIFA, a footballing body, is corrupt to the core then god help the rest of the world. The whole thing is a farce.

Basically, Just Checking, you're a total clown.
By:
appformat
When: 15 Jul 16 15:52

Jul 15, 2016 -- 2:10PM, Davy wrote:


Those who claim radical Islamism is a reaction to the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan really, really need to look up the Algerian Civil war.A horrific conflict which was started in 1991.What did the massacre of Bentalha have to so with western foreign policy?


is the world a more dangerous place now than before we invaded Iraq & Afgan?
yes or no.

By:
ebulGery
When: 15 Jul 16 16:03
I agree Satrus_Froot

I notice nobody cared about the recent bombings in Baghdad and Karadda by ISIS killing over 250 Shia Muslims
late night shoppers....

yes of course appformat


The price of overthrowing Saddam and Gadhafi has been horrific, it is barely short of an atrocity,
and yet they did not threaten us with terrorism????????????????????

One cannot fight terrorism by invading countries and killing large numbers of people
we only create more terrorists


However we have to deal with the here and now.

As far as I can see we were far more willing to overthrow Assad than we have ever been about ISIS.

My only suggestion improve security, make a serious effort to stop this war in Syria then
Refugees will stop coming to the West, and the sooner we get rid of ISIS the better!
By:
Just Checking
When: 15 Jul 16 16:15
Galloway was on TV the other day speaking to Andrew Neil and came up with the old leftie canard (lie) that we are supplying these people the weapons. Andrew Neil pointed out they are using (apart from rare exceptions) Russian style weapons, AKs and the like. Galloway knew he was rumbled so quickly dropped that and changed the subject as he knew he was talking rubbish and didn't want to be made a fool of.Nice to see typical internet conspiracy nut satrus froot showing his ignorance and calling me a clown for calling him out. Go back to your grauniad and your foil hats.

So the middle east problems and all the problems caused by a religion that's been around and killign people for 1400 years are due to nasty western capitalist arms manufacuters wanting to sell guns. And you call me a clown.
By:
Gin
When: 15 Jul 16 16:23
Burton-Brewers 15 Jul 16 14:51 Joined: 01 Feb 12 | Topic/replies: 16,210 | Blogger: Burton-Brewers's blog
I'm sure the Eiffel Tower will be looking pretty tonight

Sky News Newsdesk @SkyNewsBreak
Mayor of Paris says the Eiffel Tower will be illuminated in red, white and blue during the three-day period of national mourning #NiceFrance

Quelle surprise.........
By:
Platini
When: 15 Jul 16 16:25
But we do know what they want.

They tell us all the time with their statements and even more with their actions.

They want complete and utter obedience to their retarded mediEVIL religion, and they want to annihilate anyone who dares not comply.
And they're not satisfied with staying in their sh1tholes either, they want to expand exponentially. Global domination is the end game.

And nothing will change until we remove the shield of political correctness that protects them. They will carry on with their murder, their atrocities, their barbarism until they gain control.
By:
mobo
When: 15 Jul 16 16:27
Very radical surgery is needed but no politician is prepared to hand out travel tickets to them. Whilst they remain so will the problem.
By:
mobo
When: 15 Jul 16 16:31
One thing that gets in the way is most people in this country are what I would call 'reasonable' people.  There are very few reasonable muslims and their warmongering cult certainly isn't. There will be no reasonable conclusion.
It isn't a religion, that is for sure. It was designed as a system to unite factions and groups under one umbrella to facilitate invasion and occupation.  But written into it is a charter for blokes to do what they want with women (as a bribe)
By:
Davy
When: 15 Jul 16 16:31

Jul 15, 2016 -- 3:52PM, appformat wrote:


Jul 15, 2016 --  2:10PM, Davy wrote:Those who claim radical Islamism is a reaction to the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan really, really need to look up the Algerian Civil war.A horrific conflict which was started in 1991.What did the massacre of Bentalha have to so with western foreign policy?is the world a more dangerous place now than before we invaded Iraq & Afgan?yes or no.


Yes, without a doubt.These maniacs have been given a place to operate freely in.9-11 happened before Iraq and radical Islamism has existed long before the Soviet-Afghan war.
ISIS kill in the name of Islam.They tell us explicately that they wish to bring back the capliphate stretching from India to Spain.
They kill Shia,Yazidi,Sufis and Christians in the name of Islam and because of their belief that the non believers must die not because they are upset over foreign policy.

By:
ebulGery
When: 15 Jul 16 16:38
You can complain about ISLAM all you want, but before the 1990's we had no problems with them.

So what has changed, because it is certainly not ISLAM, the complaint is it never changes.

They have called Jihad in defence of Islam, why have they done that?
By:
digdeep
When: 15 Jul 16 16:38
Dead terrorist should be buried. at sea in a coffin of pork fat a month after their death,as we are always told they are not Muslims no one can complain. This might put of true believers taking up terrorism,worth a try,might effect the price of scratchings but still worth a go.
By:
Davy
When: 15 Jul 16 16:38
One of the earliest and deadliest suicide bombings in the Iraq conflict targeted UN diplomat Sergio De Mello.Again, Al Qaeda told up why they did it.They blamed De Mello for stopping the Indonesians carrying out the genocide of the East Timorese.They wanting Muslim Indonesia to cleanse Christian East Timor.
You have to be very careful not to upset these people.
By:
Ibrahima Sonko
When: 15 Jul 16 16:42
Nice idea digdeep.

When do we hear the stories that the Tunisian born terrorist was not a true muslim and his marriage had just recently broken down ?
By:
Slicer
When: 15 Jul 16 16:44
Thanks for that Mr Digdeep. A great idea. I have just bought thousands of call options in Pork Scratchings Co
By:
Davy
When: 15 Jul 16 16:44

Jul 15, 2016 -- 4:38PM, ebulGery wrote:


You can complain about ISLAM all you want, but before the 1990's we had no problems with them.So what has changed, because it is certainly not ISLAM, the complaint is it never changes.They have called Jihad in defence of Islam, why have they done that?


Look up Sayyd Qutub the father of Radical Islamism.Executed by the Egyptians in 1966.

By:
Slicer
When: 15 Jul 16 16:45
Mr Sonko- don't forget he was mentally ill, the poor darling!
By:
Hamsterdam
When: 15 Jul 16 17:16
Obviously ISIS inspired kind of attack. I don't get you all blaming 'muslims' though. They've been here and in France for decades without problems...a few nutjobs/loner types become radicalized and you get stuff like this.

This man didn't cross any boarders.

And those high school shooters in the states are mostly white, who you going to blame that on?
By:
Burton-Brewers
When: 15 Jul 16 17:22
mobo knows the cure and it's the only way
By:
Injera
When: 15 Jul 16 17:29
One thing 99% of attacks have in common is that the shooter or bomber or nutjob lorry driver WANTS to die.

They have no plan for escape. They either kill themselves or fight to the death.

WHY? Look up martydom within Islam and especially what Mohammed says about it in the Hadith. It's the most fundamental aspect of Jihad. Go where you're likely to die and claim your reward in Heaven.

This was never about security/intelligence or monitoring rogu extremists. This an ideology that should be tackled everywhere. Start with leaders pointing the finger at Islam. Then go to schools, mosques, everywhere and tell them to get in line or f*** off.
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