I supported Rolf because I'm against bull fighting

well thought out argument

how the **** can you get a post like that removed if the traitor done it himself?

if someone else reported him surely the no good c**t should be banned?

start acting your age crags ffs.

you'll end up giving yourself a heart attack - we wouldn't wanna see that would we

No, can't believe I'm actually wasting my time conversing with an absolute idiot like RR.

I've disappointed myself so off up the wooden hill for me, take care x

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i am sorry about the matadors death. i am also sorry that this exercise in 'honour' and 'respect' exists. how you conflate this with iraq or 'rolf' i dont know. the fact is that if you were to try to introduce bull-fighting now, the e.u. would call you a lot of names, and tell you to pheck off. but because it is a tradition, that makes it ok, and the spanish get away with it. if i tried to introduce the north london bull-fighting squad in competition with the spanish version, i would be shredded by liberals that hate blood-sports;  the same people who call fox-hunters 'barbarians' do not realise that the rest of europe are, by their definition, barbarian. restriction of hunting and laws against animal cruelty are at their strongest in the u.k.

is that your best defence? things that exist but should not? bull fighting is seen as abhorrent in all of europe. are we all wrong? it cannot exist elsewhere. we deem it cruel, and will not have it. you say it is ok, because of tradition. i say bollox.

Sorry, but your argument was that if it was introduced now it wouldn't be allowed. This is a very poor argument because there are numerous things that wouldn't be allowed if they were introduced now. If you want to adopt the abhorrent and cruel argument then fair enough but don't blame me for you adopting an argument that is nonsense and doesn't stand up to scrutiny.

Barbaric is making millions of people destitute by invading their country and destroying their existance ,but somehow a few dead bulls is a top priority

Civilised world you say  ....17m people in the uk are sick of the luvvies telling them what they must think

leave spain alone ,its  youth unemployment that needs tackled not their culture

Well done the Bull ...
the Matador knew the risks and got what he deserved from this barbaric sport.

Braednbuttewr the voice of reason. Very well said. I was going to post yesterday but some of the comments made me so angry I would've said something I might regret.

Some sicko saying he was glad his wife was there to see it !!

There was never the same outpouring when the religion of peace threw somebody they considered to be gay to his death from a high building.

Or even when they buried a poor women up to her neck and then stoned her to death, because she might be an adulterer.


It's cruel but there are more pressing things that need putting right.

c ock

Braednbuttewr the voice of reason No he isn't Kim. He's the voice of boloks. Every time there's an animal cruelty related thread he always makes some pathetic reason to condone it or at least not criticise it.

So we can't discuss a suffering bull without someone equating it worse (in their opinion) human suffering. Ridiculous.

A lot of the people on here can be put in the same bracket as the cretins who say JT Macnamara got what he deserves for 'whipping and torturing' racehorses.

Kenny I don't read all the animal threads so I didn't know BB's previous opinions but I agree with what he said on here.

I'm an animal lover I've rescued 2 dogs and a couple of farm cats, my uncle had a farm when I was a nipper I've always been around animals.

Bull fighting is cruel,but there are worse examples of animal cruelty as you well know and often rightly point out,

Before we start taking the Spanish to task we need to look a bit closer to home and the things young children are subjected to in this country.

I'm swimming against the tide here but I felt sorry for the guy and even sorrier for his wife having to witness it and I'm hardened to a lot of things in life.

Shocking and given warning I would never be looking at this!

Did they drag him out with a tractor as I think that is the tradition?

I watched a documentary, some years ago, about a twelve year old boy learning the roll.

He got hurt and was clearly upset but told to go back into the arena.

He did kill the bull which was worn down by the "Picadors" (I think that's the term) with multiple blades in it's back,
and he dispatched it with the long curved sword, that they have under the red cape.

Awful!!

I do my best. rob. Feed my cats the least cruel food as I've told you several times and even posted the link more than once.

News: "Disney Pixar beat "Finding Nemo"'s box office receipts with "Stabbing Lorenzo". Good family entertainment all round as the animated jolly farm animal gets brutally stabbed to death by a dancing ponce in a ridiculous camp outfit that if you hadn't seen it in real life you'd think was made up in the minds of the animators".

I concur there Wesdag

I would not mind if it was a fight?

It is the slow weakening and torture or the bull I object to

I think the bull should come into the ring fresh and take on the matador

A good clean clean kill either way I could live with

To the people saying that the Matador deserved to die, what exactly are you advocating?

The death penalty for animal cruelty??

Would have to start handing out some pretty stiff sentences for other crimes then.

I'm sure he knew the risks, but there is a world of difference between saying this, and saying he deserved to die.

And disagreeing with bullfighting and not revelling in a man's death are not mutually exclusive.