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By:
Breedingmad
When: 20 Oct 16 14:53
Yes,know it back to front
By:
ZenMaster
When: 20 Oct 16 14:57
Congratulations, it's quite unreadable isn't it?
MP's in Parliament however pretended to understand it and gave Gordon Brown the go ahead to sign it on your behalf.
By:
Breedingmad
When: 20 Oct 16 15:16
Blame the bloke who signed it then.
By:
ZenMaster
When: 20 Oct 16 15:28
Gordon Brown was given instructions to sign it by Parliamentary consent.
The people were led up the garden path with talks of a referendum on it.
ALL three major Party's at the time suggested there should be a referendum on the Treaty. Even the BBC seemed opposed to the unreadability of it.

But another yardstick is readability.

While the constitution was intended to be a reader-friendly document that could be taught in schools, the Reform Treaty is going to reel off a new mass of revisions to two already unreadable treaties.

Traditionally, unreadable EU treaties have not been subjected to a referendum, except in Ireland - though France and Denmark made an exception for the Maastricht treaty.

This one seems set to be even more clumsy than usual with its protocols, declarations and footnotes.

"They decided that the document should be unreadable. If it is unreadable, it is not constitutional, that was the sort of perception," former Italian Foreign Minister Giuliano Amato told a conference in London this month.

"Any prime minister - imagine the UK prime minister - can go to the Commons and say, 'Look, you see, it's absolutely unreadable, it's the typical Brussels treaty, nothing new, no need for a referendum.'"

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/europe/6907478.stm

This is why Farage and other Eurosceptics campaigned so rigorously for the EU referendum.
By:
ZenMaster
When: 20 Oct 16 15:31
ALL three major Party's at the time suggested there should be a referendum on the Treaty. Even the BBC seemed opposed to the unreadability of it.


But of course there was a U-turn.
By:
Breedingmad
When: 20 Oct 16 15:34
Ahhh the days we had Sovereignty
By:
lfc1971
When: 20 Oct 16 15:36
breedingmad writing something thoughtful is good, you should try it.
By:
Breedingmad
When: 20 Oct 16 15:42
Yeah like "don`t worry about trade, that is a matter for business and is not linked to free movement except in the minds of politicians."
By:
Breedingmad
When: 20 Oct 16 15:43
Yes like... "don`t worry about trade, that is a matter for business and is not linked to free movement except in the minds of politicians."
By:
ZenMaster
When: 20 Oct 16 15:45
Ahhh do you have a problem with the people getting to vote and over-rule Parliament Breedingmad?

That democracy is as direct as it can be.

You don't like direct democracy then Breedingmad?
By:
lfc1971
When: 20 Oct 16 15:45
I know that, that's what I said.
I don`t want to put a sentence too full of thoughts
someone with no thoughts like yourself doesn`t need his nose rubbed in it.
By:
lfc1971
When: 20 Oct 16 15:46
* that was to breedingmad, of course
By:
Breedingmad
When: 20 Oct 16 15:49
It's called over simplification of complicated processes ,Brexiters seem to do it a lot,it's very childlike.
By:
brassneck
When: 20 Oct 16 22:52
There is now three possible brexits.
1 a HARD brexit
2 a soft brexit
3 Theresa said today that she wants a SMOOTH brexit.
By:
Breedingmad
When: 20 Oct 16 22:54
Surely Brexit means Exit.
By:
Gallivanter
When: 21 Oct 16 00:06
Brexit means whatever Chairman May says it means when she gets her instructions from whoever rules Germany and France after next year's elections. Particularly Germany.
By:
Breedingmad
When: 21 Oct 16 00:46
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By:
xmoneyx
When: 21 Oct 16 11:53
libdems slash Tory majority by 20,000

hard brexit looks iffy
By:
xmoneyx
When: 21 Oct 16 11:56
John MacDonald‏ @1johnmacdonald
Finnish PM: the UK will meet a united EU front; Britons were clearly "quite unprepared" for #Brexit.
By:
xmoneyx
When: 21 Oct 16 13:14
Faisal Islam‏ @faisalislam
Juncker's top Brexit negotiator @MichelBarnier wants to conduct the Brexit negotiations ... in French, says ReutersExcited
By:
xmoneyx
When: 21 Oct 16 16:53
Forget hard Brexit or soft Brexit, European officials are preparing for a dirty #Brexit.
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